Help Others In Getting Their Pain Medications Go To Care2petitionsite And Sign Demand That Chronic Suffers Get Medication Now (Page 13)

Here it is, your sincere effort to help us all get back our right to having our pain medications now!! sign this petition to get action and be a part in changing the DEA'a plan that is surely not working. Give us back our lives, Let the junkies overdose is they so choose to. Go to "Care2petitionsite" now sign the petition on "demand that chronic pain sufferers get their medication now, by valerie. I thank you for your support. Feel free to share it because the more signatures that we get the sooner we can make this a reality.

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Re: Supersus61 (# 239)

Now is the time to act & we all must get strong! COVID19 is a horrific curse. Many death’s have occurred; very sad.

However, let’s do a comparison. As the “opiod crisis” as defined by Gov’t immediately, without researching, acknowledging nor considering LEGITIMATE/LONG TERM CHRONIC PAIN PATIENTS(CPP’s) who after exhausting all other procedures were given the only alternative in order to basically walk & lead a somewhat normal, productive life;

In my case 32 ago I couldn’t walk via a near fatal car accident, 4 surgeries later & numerous other alternatives, diagnosed with FAILED BACK SYNDROME, SPINAL STENOSIS, & all the rest that goes with a deteriorating spine w/scar tissue crawling like a spider web, 22 yrs ago I was referred to Pain Management through managed doses of opiate Percocet.

It was a miracle! Within a month, I was out of my wheelchair! Walking, living, positive...I got my life back! 22 yrs later BOOM! Along cane as we all know, the revelation of abusers...The bad apple!!

Because of so few “bad apples” vs us CPP’s we are suffering. Way too many CPP’s have even taken their lives; we are back bedridden due to GUIDELINES/RULES In lieu of this fact, Gov’t, FDA, DEA, et al refuse to acknowledge us & the knowledgeable, compassionate PAIN MGMT DOCTOR’s who did their research!

Granted, COVID19 is horrible. Gov’t is paying attention to fix. Why not us? We have a terminal disease which is CHRONIC PHYSICAL PAIN!

In addition, re: the tapering of our meds; have you noticed what we are prescribed the pain medicine has become basically ineffective as if taking a sugar pill? They changed the formulation, altered it less active ingredients & w/filler’s to make you purposely sick to detour use without any TRIAL’s whatsoever!

Heartbreaking. GODSPEED to all with love.

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Re: MeJane (# 241)

Id like to know your definition of a “ bad apple.” If you mean addicted kids well then that would make you one as well, only adult size. Don’t start putting the blame of the addicts when you yourself were or are one. Definition of an addict no matter if back surgery, car accident, experimenting, you all have something in common called DEPENDENCY.
As for this Chinese virus, it is real but much overblown numbers by the democrats. My sisters a nurse my nephew an ER Doctor. They have told me things I cannot repeat because it’s like the twilight zone. There are other alternative medications besides opioids that work just fine. Most doctors will keep you on Percocet forever. And they don’t warn you either. So blame your doctor. I bet your one of those people who actually drive while wearing a mask. Get well soon.

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Re: Liberty (# 1)

Hope You get WHAT IS coming to YOU, hope YOU GOT WHAT YOU DESERVED!!!

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What’s the actual domain name?

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I think anyone who suffers from chronic pain should be allowed to have and get their prescriptions filled. Suffering is unnecessary!

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Momo (# 8) -- I have severe damage to my spinal column due to not automobile accident. And just by terrible luck or the most horrible convergence of circumstances, I was uninsured. Lost everything I owned....... point being, no Insc=no legitimate pain clinics in Georgia. This was exactly at the time of the emergence of govt intervention in pain meds and PCP's no longer able to control pain. I knew everything was going to be just fine and aok. When has the federal government not gotten involved in anything and not improved it ten fold? Sorry, sarcasm is the last act of the desperate mind. This was in 2009. I believe that the government made their grand entrance into yet another place they had great intentions (I hope so anyway). I remember hearing about this beginning in 2008 as best as I remember. I knew that this was going to be a catastrophe of epic proportions. But it really didn't concern me at the time and in retrospect, the way I have been scolded, reprimanded like a disobedient school child, talked to like a drug seeking addict and the best of all is being told by the most reprehensible and loathsome creature to ever graduate from medical school, his suggestion for me as he spoke to me in a way that had I not been in excruciating pain from the 7 burst fractures in my spinal column and a crushed shoulder joint that has to have a joint replacement, and the maturity and ability to control my responses to being provoked, I would have beaten him so badly that he would have had to find a pain clinic for the lifelong chronic pain I would have caused him and very deservedly I might add. But the worst insult yet was from this physician dedicated to helping the sick, injured and in need of an empathetic and caring human being whose advise was for me to go to the local methadone clinic for heroin addits. This was clearly where I needed to be due to the fact that I was a junkie and he would not treat junkies. I apologize for the slight diversion from the subject, I just get rather triggered by this subject. And I despise that word for the simple fact it makes me sound like a 20 something that has just heard someone say something that makes me need a safe space and a quite room with therapy bunnies and ponies to pet to be able to recover. I feel like if these young people had to live with the debilitating chronic pain that the people on this site had to live with on a daily basis with out an hour in the day to have a minor reprieve from the pain, they really would be needing a therapy bunny to feel better. But I will return to the topic and stay on the path and not vear off on another wild tangent. But as you were saying, I came into this world of narcotics and pain meds and drug screens and pill counts as a complete neophyte to all of this. I drank enough beer in college to probably float an aircraft carrier but had long grown out of that phase without ever experimenting with any illegal drugs. So not only did I end up looking like a jack-o'-lantern on Thanksgiving day, but I also had to have a surgery to repair an anal fissure caused by the extreme constipation that also accompanies the use of opiates. It had got so bad that I literally tore myself internally. And that was a pain that had to be surgically repaired because no human being could possibly take that pain which came with a person's daily bodily function that every human being must do with some regularity. It was unlike the pain that I had with my back and shoulders that was bearable but constant. Probably a 5-6 if I do not do anything that I shouldn't. Like the daily chores that all adults have to do. And for a young healthy man that had a minimum of two jobs at all times since high school, it is a living hell that only my belief and personal relationship with my higher power that kept me from losing my mind completely and if I am being truly honest, it is God that kept me from doing something that would have left my family in pain for the rest of their lives. Now you are starting to see ads for companion medications to the opiates. The dry mouth rinse, gum and toothpaste. The prescription medication for relief from opiate induced constipation. And one last thing that no one has mentioned either, I got my first set of prescriptions from the "pain specialist" and I was in a state of disbelief. It was a cocktail of methadone scheduled, roxycontin 30mg for breakthrough pain as needed, 2mg Xanax times 3 daily and Soma. This was only because I refused to take the 80mg oxycontin for breakthrough pain so he dropped it back to the 30mg. And I asked him exactly how long would my liver and or kidneys withstand that much medication, and he told me that if I remained on that level and amount of meds, I would probably be looking at a kidney transplant and or a liver transplant also sometime in the next 8-10 years. So I used the meds just long enough to develop a dependancy on them before deciding that I had no clue how long it would be before I could get surgical intervention on my spine and shoulder and I couldn't do that anymore. So I flushed everything down the toilet because I was a man who had never been stopped by anything I decided to do. That is how I became the youngest real estate broker in my area before becoming the youngest person elected to public office in my county. And then being the top 40 under 40 in my County and state. And while doing all that, I had been acquiring 22 rental properties and being the top 5 producer in my real estate company in the commercial department in only three years. All of these things was considered extremely ambitious on there own, and all together was completely unheard of for someone who started cold without having the right last name in my town and no trust fund but completely by myself with grit and determination. So I refused to be captive to a bunch of pill bottles,so I flushed them because if I could do all I had done, I could do this. Well when I first remember being fully conscious 3 days later, I realized that maybe I had met my match. And it took me another two years to finally get off each one of the meds one at a time. With the methadone being the last. And I will say that if I have to go back to a pain med for my deteriorating back issues before I can have it repaired, I would go to methadone. It never made me get a high, and it was a very good pain medication. But only if you do not drink alcohol or use any benzodiazopines. The combination of a benzo, methadone and just one mixed drink or a beer and you will not live. But it is still a very effective pain med. I have gotten down to 4) 50mg tramadol a day and concerta for the fatigue and periodically a 75mg Lyrica. And I stay in my bed most of the day and do nothing of any help to anyone. But that is better than having to fight what everyone is fighting now. But I have to say that I worked my way through pre-med on the neuro-orthopedic floor of a level 2 trauma hospital. And got accepted to medical school but chose not to go. But by the time this happened to me, when I left the hospital, that was before the days of oxycontin, roxycontin and the panoply of opiates that had come on the market. That is the reason I didn't have enough sense to realize the amount of medication I was getting was more than patients with CA of the bone was getting when I worked at the hospital. And at the time, bone cancer was the most insideous, cruel fate that anyone could ever have to endure. And I said the amount that I was given, not taking. I didn't know until years later the reason why you could walk into the waiting room at the pain clinic and see the 50/50 split between the people who was there just to get the meds and the dealers. Because anyone who was a legitimate pain patient had insurance and was going to a reputable clinic. I was one of a handful of people that I met in the waiting room that was a legitimate pain patient. And the reason for the massive over prescribing was so people could have enough meds to sell half and take the other half and have the money to return the next month. That is what happens when the federal government gets involved in anything besides the defense of the country and providing the necessary infrastructure for people to be able to make their share of the American dream and occasionally having to regulate some industries. But something had to be done when 60,000 people were overdosing and dying every year. That is more soldiers that was killed in Vietnam. And the only reason most of them were dying of OD's is because of the physicians that were over prescribing for far too long and then abuptly stopping the opiates all at once. And I can say that if you don't have a tremendous burning desire to stop and help to wean off the medications, I have no doubt why so many people turned to a cheaper and easier drug to get, heroin. And all the while, the Sachler family that owns Purdue Pharma, the makers of oxycontin, they sold that med to physicians as a safe and less addictive alternative to other opiate pain medication knowing all the time how unbelievably addictive it actually was and extremely dangerous. And each member of that family is a multibillionaire. And the tobacco industry settled a class action law suit for several hundreds of million dollars and the Sachler family is trying to settle their class action law suit for far much less and none of them are ever going to be prosecuted criminally for all the death and destruction done to thousands of families all so they could enrich themselves. And they are responsible for the decimation of entire towns in coal country and the Midwest. So when NAFTA had closed the factories and the Obama administration nearly destroyed the coal industry, they stepped right up and gave these people who were already demoralized from not being able to find a job which causes severe depression, and then they magically was given Obamacare that gave them access to a physician who was more than happy to oblige their pain with the entirety wrong type of medication for the pain that these people were suffering. An opiate may make you temporarily forget the pain of losing all sense of reason and loss of purpose but it will always return when the meds wear off until time for the next dose. If you think that I am making spurious and unfair accusations against the Obama administration, just look at the calendar and do the math. Not everyone fits into this equation but I know that it played a role in my misery. Even though I couldn't even qualify for Obamacare in Georgia, I still was severely depressed at my circumstances and if I didn't have a higher power that is a million times more powerful than pain medication, I have no doubt that I would have been just another statistic. And I have to say that even though I have a legitimate reason to be taking pain medication and I may have to start again very soon, the people who are addicted just because they have an emotional pain instead of a physical pain, there is now more help for people who truly want to stop than I ever remember being available in my lifetime. So I have no doubt that it will be much more difficult to get the medications that I will need to have a decent quality of life, I am really happy that maybe I will not have to go through the mind numbing misery of withdrawals and the humiliation of physicians that would have been better suited to be veterinarians than medical doctors for fellow human beings. Something had to be done to get this under control, but as per norm, whenever the government gets involved in anything, there will be far more unintended consequences created than problems solved. And if the greedy physicians that have no compunction about turning their patients into drug addicts, if they were caught and made an example of, the business of pill mills would be a thing of the past. And then the government could go back to doing what they do best, raising taxes, waging unwinnable wars and over regulating industries that didn't have such a direct impact on a patient and their doctor.

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I am a chronic pain sufferer. Needed a bump up in my meds by 20 milligrams. Doctor refused me for months. Could not even give me the respect I deserved by not even looking at me, just the computer. Never had a bad U/A.

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Re: BBs (# 247)

Did you ask him why he would not increase it ? If your doctor never looks you in the eye. You need to change doctors. Many years ago I went to a PCP that was so busy looking at her laptop screen she did not answer or look at me. After 15 minutes, I got up and walked out without telling her. I was at the elevator before she looked for me. (I could see the front desk from the elevator)

It is up to each doctor what they prescribe individual patients. Signing a petition will have no impact on what doctors do and do not prescribe.

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