Doriden/glutethimide Availability (Page 6)

Does anyone know where one could obtain glutethimide or it's brand name Doriden (CIBA Company)? Am in Canada where Doriden was discontinued in late 1980s and I was told Doriden discontinue was international. Perhaps there is now a generic form containing glutethimide available now as I would assume CIBA trademark rights would have by now expired. As the benzodiazapine replacement meds for Doriden are more addictive and dangerous (especially if mixing with alcohol & other drugs) it sure would be great to be able to go back to Doriden or glutethimide which were more effective and safer. A shame that the public was switched over to benzodiazipines (i.e. lorazapam, diazapam) when a better/safer product was available all in the name of profits and economics. Any help out there is most appreciated.

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I'm beginning to lose hope that I'll ever be re-united with my beloved Doriden.

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Re: Joseph (# 101)

There are a couple of chemical companies in the US that will make Glutethimide and sell it for R&D purposes or potential commercial purpose. I haven't contacted anyone because I assume to place such an order, one would need special licensing.

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Re: Fred (# 102)

Of course, it's a controlled substance. I just have to face the facts, I probably will not see any Glutethimide in my lifetime. Do you know anything about Soma and codeine? It induces the same liver enzymes as Glutethimide.

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Re: Joseph (# 103)

I've heard that here and there as well but seems to me if it were true, it would be widely known by now considering Soma has been around awhile and is relatively easy to get online.

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Re: Fred (# 104)

That's true. Soma turns into Meprobamate in your body, do they even still make Miltown? Never tried Soma and codeine though. I don't know what to tell you Fred, looks like Glutethimide is wiped off the face of the Earth. Even if you did have a prescription you can't do anything with it, plus who's going to write a prescription for a drug that is extinct?

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Re: Patrice (# 64)

I had a friend of mine who got a few prescriptions for Nembutal in '98 and I even went to the pharmacy with him to pick them up. Also, they do still make Synalgos brand of dihydrocodeine. Any news regarding Glutethimide?

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Re: Joseph (# 106)

Nothing new on the glu my man. I should have been a chemist and then make it myself.

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Re: Fred (# 107)

Same with me. At least you had a few more years of enjoyment with them. There has to be a pharmacy in Budapest that still has them sitting on a shelf in the back somewhere, but I'll never know.

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No news about Glutethimide (Doriden) availability? Hey, all that is left is memories. So sad that in the US the DEA practically forced the last remaining manufacturer, Halsey Drug to discontinue manufacturing it.

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Re: Joseph (# 109)

Unfortunately no. I still check this page randomly to see if you had any luck.

Doesn't look good. I was happy to see you post a note though.

From my experience, the only thing that comes close to the effects is fentanyl which is now extremely difficult to get prescribed and for me, way too risky to acquire any other way. Due to its potency, it is dangerous consuming it when dosage is difficult to determine from unreliable sources.

I have officially given up my search for this grail.

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Re: Fred (# 110)

Yeah Fred, I just want to do it one more time. A lot of Chinese companies offering Glutethimide is actually Aminoglutethimide(brand name is Cytraden, and made by Ciba), one would think that it would share some of Glutethimides properties. The answer is no, none whatsoever, Aminoglutethimide is used for breast cancer and Cushing's Syndrome. Back in the late nineties I got a prescription for them and thinking that it would do something along with the Fours, but nothing at all. I see several online ads for Glutethimide but if you read the fine print it's actually Aminoglutethimide. I have given up the search too, but if something truly legit comes along I would jump on it. As for Fentanyl, very dangerous and lethal. People think that potent means strong, well it does in a way. But what potent actually means is that it takes a very little amount to do it's intended job. Fentanyl is potent. Glutethimide is strong but not potent, being that the usual dose is 500 milligrams. Placidyl is strong but not potent, 750 milligrams capsules. Dilaudid is potent, dosage is between 1 and 4 milligrams. Fred, hopefully someday me and my old friend Glutethimide will be reunited. There has to be an old mom and pop pharmacy that still has a dusty old bottle of them on a shelf somewhere. If you get a chance google US vs Lartey on case law, its unbelievable. Also US vs Ekinci, another really unbelievable case. Take care

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Placidyl was discontinued in 1999. It worked good but was highly abused. Doriden (Glutethimide) was magical especially with codeine. Doriden too was discontinued in the US around '93.

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Re: Fred (# 110)

Yes, me too Fred. I don't know if you remember me but I am in Essex County also. The two companies that made Glutethimide in Hungary, Bulgaria and Romania were purchased in 2006 (Ranbaxy purchased Terapia, and Egis) and they subsequently discontinued the slow sellers.

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Re: Joseph (# 111)

I also heard that Soma is kind of close to Doriden but no cigar. Soma turns into the super old sedative Miltown in your body. They even make Soma with codeine.

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Re: Fred (# 110)

Fentanyl is a super potent, meaning it only takes a tiny amount to be effective, synthetic opioid. A lot of the illicit street stuff is coming from China. Fentanyl is prescribed mostly to cancer patients under the brand names Duragesic, Sublimaze, and a lollipop called Actiq for patients who can't hold down anything in their stomach. It's also available in transdermal patches. As far as Soma (Carisprodol) is concerned some people said that it's kind of like Doriden and like I mentioned before it turns into Miltown (I forget the generic name) in your body. Miltown was actually named after the NJ town where the pharmaceutical company first invented it many moons ago. Equanil was another brand name of it. Nothing good is made any longer, the benzodiazepine family and the Z drugs (Zolpidem is Ambien, Zopiclone is Lunesta or Sonata, I forget which) have totally changed things in the sedative-hypnotic field. Halsey was willing to keep manufacturing Glutethimide as a schedule 2 drug, but the quota set was a laughable 3 grams! Enough for 6 tablets. That was in '93 and Rorer, who owned USV had already discontinued the product and destroyed whatever they had on hand.

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Re: Joseph (# 115)

I have lost all hope of ever finding my beloved Doriden (Glutethimide) again. It was so readily available in the eighties and early nineties but then the government had to get involved and ruin a good thing, like always. There probably is some mom and pop pharmacy in the midwest somewhere that still has them on a dusty old shelf. And they probably would still be good if they were kept cool and out of sunlight. Yes, Doriden and codeine were the best. Nothing can compare to them.

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Wish I could say that I found a source for Doriden (Glutethimide) but I've lost all hope of ever being re-united with Doriden ever again. They were the best, particularly with Codeine #4. The government has to ruin everything, don't forget they know what's best for you

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Re: Joseph (# 117)

Still nothing unfortunately. It's a lost cause. Good to hear from you again my Essex County counterpart.

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Re: Joseph (# 117)

Just found something but not sure what to make of it.
Look up Restek Thames online. Listed as DL- Glutethimide
Let me know what you make of it. Look to be available in liquid form. For research? Not sure if it's even consumable. It may contain Methanol as well so not really sure what the heck this is.

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Re: Fred (# 118)

You as well Fred. Like I mentioned I've given up on ever seeing them again. I hear that Soma and codeine comes a little close and Promethazine with codeine does too , although I've never them myself. There is nothing good that is made anymore.

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