Difference Between Adderall And Amphetamine Salts (Page 33)

I was recently diagnosed with Adult ADD and have been prescribed Amphetamine Salts (Generic for Adderall) for a few months now. The initial dosage was one 10mg tablet/ three times a day and recently my Doctor upped the dosage to one 30mg tablet/ twice a day. I know that overall this has been very beneficial for me but I cant help but wonder if the generic brand (IR Amphetamine Salts) has less of the active ingredient, and more unnecessary side effects(irritability, fatigue). I know that while the active ingredients are likely to be the same, the "fillers" usually are not and even the active ingredients can vary up to 10%. I also know that everybody reacts differently depending on their bodies' make-up as well as the drugs and I have always reacted sensitively to any kind of drug. The more I "google" the more I want to stay away from the generic form. Also- almost every pharmacy around has little to no Adderall Brand IR tablets in stock, they only have the generic brands and possibly Adderall brand but only the Extended-Release. My Doctor seems to firmly believe that there is no difference between Adderall XR and Adderall IR, and because she prescribed me the generic form (Amphetamine Salts), she probably doesn't see a difference there either. I don't have the time to ask 10 doctors what they think so if anyone has any information or experiences please share! Thank you!

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Re: Sarah (# 13)

They have changed all the meds that made us feel better and active to us less junk

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Here are some facts:

1- Almost any legal or illegal drug damages your liver and brings side effects.

2- The drugs companies exclusively in the United States bring great revenues.

3- Adderall is not a permitted drug in most Europeans countries, Mexico and Canada. The drug legislations are more strict in those countries; they do not consider Adderall a safe drug for their people.

4- Western medicine is the best when it comes to emergency care.

5- The United States is very behind in preventive medicine. The human body has a healing system, but it is not in medical schools yet.

6- New discoveries in biology and neurology have proven that the genetic makeup from most humans is not fixed. Therefore people can literally reprogram their bodies and brain cells.

7- Meditation, diet, physical activity and your environment can influence your well-being.

8- Cognitive behavioral approaches and mindfulness practices have shown significant improvement in patients with anxiety, borderline and bipolar personality, ADHD, clinical depression and anger issues.

9- The health care system in United States is one of the most lucrative in the world and doctors have an incentive to prescribe medications because they get a percentage of money.

By the way Europe and many other countries in the world do not let pharmaceuticals companies give or offer a percentage of money from medications they prescribe to their patients.

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Re: K (# 631)

What "medicine" feels like it is working fine?
I didn't want to have to sift through 644 replies looking for "what" medication you are referring to. Thanks. I appreciate your time.

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Re: ADHD hurts (# 619)

But I promise you, Sandoz no longer is effactive now either. I am in such a miserable, depressed, and one of the lowest points of my life right now. I've been LEGALLY prescribed Adderall IR 30mgs for 18 years. For the past 2 years is when I noticed the biggest change in ALL GENERIC formulations. ALL were changing and become less effective. My doctor does believe me because he has has said MANY of his patients are going through this and making this aware to him. Hoswever, he doesn't take the medication himself, and has no idea what is going to be the next plan of action to get us all moving in a good direction once again. That is why these post/replies with USEFUL comments, from those who are really experienced with the USE of these medications, are very beneficial. We obviously need to do the research ourselves. I just hope that soon, I can get back to being motivated, focused, and useful- not only in my own life, but to those who heavily depend on me to take care of them. I wish you all the best as well. Hopefully, soon, we will all be able to once again wake up and take our medication with the confidence that we once had and just be able to look forward to each new day!

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Re: Margarita (# 2)

HYPERBOLE, not "Hyperbolie”.... When one's comment is riddled with incorrect spelling and is somewhat lacking grammatically, one should probably spend a little more time focusing on ONESELF, as opposed to (and I mean this metaphorically, not to be mistaken for hyperbolically) wading through the crowd, proudly waving the "flag of blatant ignorance" in prose... Just a thought.

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Re: joey (# 14)

Are you on the XR? I was put on the XR and had 2 issues. First the prescription cost me 337.00 dollars. Second my body metabolized it in around 4 hours. I told the Dr and was changed to Adderall IR (Amphetamine Salts). They work well and last 4-5 hours per dose and I filled 60 for 37.00. Good all around.

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God loves you even the ignorant... And if you want to believe there is no God or mock him you better hope your right when the time comes to matter... No meds heal the ignorance of athisest. I don't mean for this to turn Into a religion battle but I won't deny my creator the respect that should be given!

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Re: Margarita (# 2)


Everything was going well, I was seeing inteilligent, obvious "first hand" discussions, then...Not to brow beat Margarita for what appeared to me, to be the OPINION she's entitled. What I read appeared to me to be the words of the after math, the fears and albeit ill informed, heart felt opinion coming from a "care taker", a "Born again, "reformed individual who has seen the effects of and/or experienced all of negative side effects that some people, (not everyone can handle it) has brought into her life as. Let's all take a back seat, relax a bit and learn a little from those that do post This is NOT medical site. (Oh, yea I forgot who I'm addressing) Why do you think I'm here? Try being add, ocd, type "A" since birth. Just trying to learn and cope. It's really sad to see some people write bs, stand on their soap box, berate others, simply to bolster their self esteem.

PLEASE GET BACK TO THE SUBJECT OF THE DIFFERENCES ETC. OF SALTS VS. ADDERALL

THANK YOU

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Re: Sarah (# 8)

Well said, it is usually stupid people who call others stupid. :)

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Re: Margarita (# 2)

Excuse me. You are putting me among others in a league with drug addicts. You should be ashamed of your pretentiousness. "I know more than you Kido" HA! I'm sorry but do you have extreme ADD or ADHD? Or is it just stupidity that you suffer from?

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One thing I can tell you that may or may not help amphetamine is an old-school Pharmacy name for Speed

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I would go to a different doctor if they refuse to acknowledge the difference between instant release adderall and extended release adderall....If you're looking for only non-generic then I'd suggest making sure your insurance covers non-generic and fax your paper copy of your RX and have your RX's mailed to you, if that is even legal anymore.

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Whoever told you amphetamine salts are not the same is an *****. Amphetamine salts is the generic name for the acting ingredients. If you've taken basic chemistry you may understand what salts are. Any drug's salt is the acting ingredient. Adderall has three different types of amphetamine. If you're unclear let the pharmacist explain it to you. The law is, generic drugs have to be the same.

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Re: Sarah (# 8)

My name is Brian. I was diagnosed in elementary school with adhd. Im not sure if my parents chose not to medicate me, or if I chose. I did struggle in school.

I tested high IQ and have always tested well with no study. I have seen drug therapy turn to addiction.

Big pharmaceutical giants may as well print money. I dont like the idea of them pushing drugs legally. While marijuana for example is still illegal for most. It used to help me sleep.

Due to legalities, I quit using almost 20 years ago. I still struggle being still long enough to fall asleep.

My opinion is to avoid ALL corporately made drugs. God gave us nature to use. And brains to balance ourselves with diet and healthy practice.

I have complete respect for all good people. Be careful to stay in control. Dont allow doctors to give you a GOOD EXCUSE.

I am not stupid. But I DO regret trusting doctors, dentist, mechanics, etc. They lie to improve their profits. God gave me brains to discern on my own. Thanks for reading

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Re: Margarita (# 2)

Adderall is nothing compared to Nuvigil. I finished up my Nuvigil prescription too soon, so I took some Adderall and all it has done is keep me from sleeping. So if you want to get a script from your doctor thinking that it will be like methamphetamine you're wrong and if anyone has taken Nuvigil then you know what I’m talking about.

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Re: Logan (# 20)

I was 100% against medicating my 5 year old, but the school phone calls have stopped as well as the manic behavior. He also has better social skills and has finally gathered a few new friends in Kindergarten. Life has changed for the better for both my 5 year old son and I thanks to his ADHD medication. Ritalin worked best for my son! Vyvanse just elevated his anger for some reason. Hope this helped. :)

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Recently I started working with a new psychiatrist and she is awesome! I told her the exact thing you mentioned and how even just the slightest switch between two generic salt brands seems to effect me. Her solution was to pay attention to the brands the pharmacies carry. Some pharmacies may not even get their supplies from a pharma group that carries one I liked, so when I (or you) find one we react well to, write down the brand and even take a photo of the pill. Be sure to always request this brand. The pharmacy should take note and you can return or exchange if they don't give you right ones. The same thing happened with my birth control and it was literally 1% difference in a generic brand and I had some crazy side effects and told pharmacy never to give me that brand again and they never have.

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Re: Margarita (# 2)


I am a narcoleptic and my life is a nightmare. I am terrified even driving to work bc I can't keep myself awake. I can't get Adderall legally from a doctor even though it's the one thing that makes my life livable. (Even taking 100mg of Adderall, I still fall asleep at night; imagine that) but, every 17 yr old looking for a quick high who says they cant concentrate at school, gets it like it's candy. Great doctorate system of America.

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Re: Celeste (# 5)

Celeste: I've also experienced the "10X worse" problem with these types of medications. The reason has always been the same: The dosage (regardless of how "high" it was supposed to be) was too low for me.

THAT DOES NOT MEAN THAT YOU SHOULD IMMEDIATELY CONCLUDE THAT YOUR PROBLEMS ARE IDENTICAL TO MINE. I told you that as something you might want to consider.

Something else to consider: Some medications simply do not agree with some people.

In my own experience: Adderall (at ANY dose) is PURE POISON to me.

My experience with Adderall: It made my mind diamond-clear. But it made me extremely sick to my stomach, so dizzy I would fall to the floor if you pushed me with your pinky finger, and I would consistently fall into very dangerous hypnotic states while driving.

But then it would shock you that a person that looked so very ready for a visit to the ER could write or speak with the completeness, correction, and precision that I did.

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Re: Lissa (# 4)

Amen! I totally agree. A lot of people benefit from certain medication, but it's only those who abuse the medication, that you hear about. That's why it makes some people needlessly suffer, to afraid to seek help. It's a sad day when we only judge other's, instead of helping each other. No matter the situation you should not judge others, because chances are there are things you are doing or have done before that makes you no better than anyone else you are judging. But again that's just my opinion.
And I myself like the vyvanse better also, I do not have the side effects that I did with the adderall. And I don't feel the jitters or crash effect like I did with the adderall either. Just calm and more focused. Good luck everyone.

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