Did They Stop Making The Roxane 54 411 Buprenorphine? (Page 6)

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AWV304 Says:
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I have been getting the generic Subutex Roxane brand 54 411 Buprenorphine tablets for months now from Walmart pharmacy and the past two times I've gotten my prescription filled there, I was given a different generic made by Hi Tech with an 8 and an arrow. I asked them why the change because those little tablets just are not the same and they said the Roxane ones could not be ordered. I called around to other pharmacies I have gotten my prescription filled at before also and was also told that the Mylan M 924s can no longer be ordered either. What's going on with the Roxane and Mylan Buprenorphine tablets? Did they stop making them or is there some kind of shortage? I had the choice of getting the small Hi Tech tablets which seem alot less potent than the Roxane or the Actavis 153 half moon orange tablets which I cannot stand at all. Has anyone else had a problem getting the Roxanes or the Mylans or know for sure what's happening? I did see that Roxane merged with West Ward but don't know if that has anything to do with it or when the merge occurred and the 54 411 tablets are still listed on the West Ward site as a medication they manufacturer. I've heard everything from they are not making either of the brands anymore to there is just a temporary shortage of the brands.



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Hannah Says:
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Re: Bran (# 100)

What brand do u take now?

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Hannah Says:
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Re: goozer (# 94)

So basically even though the Roxanne and Himka say the same thing, they are different??

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Mary Says:
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Re: goozer (# 90)

I'm in Tn and I've always got 54 411 then started getting RP ones which was fine but the past 3 times I have been giving the small ones and the oblong orange ones. I use walmart. They keep telling me the are ordering them and they are on back order. All I want is the big round white ones.

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Hannah Says:
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Re: Mary (# 103)

Wow I’m in Oregon and all of the Walmart’s are telling me the same thing (they’re on backorder) I managed to get my prescription yesterday but I will most likely have to switch next month. Everyone tells me that all the genetics are the same, but they definitely affect me differently. The little white ones had no affect on me whatsoever, I was even experiencing withdrawals! This is scary :(

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Bobby Says:
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Re: Hannah (# 104)

No the generics are not even close to the same. I'm so sick of hearing people say that or having pharmacy techs giving me attitude because I don't want certain brands because I've taken them and they are absolutely garbage. I miss the name brands and old Teva's. The generics have been getting worse and worse the past handful of years. There should always be a brand name or an equivalent using the same formula so people can choose to get quality over cheap crap.

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Jay Says:
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I have no issue with the Sun Pharm 460s...after years on 54 411. In fact, they hold me longer without needing a dose. Guess everyone reacts differently. I can say the 8 arrows are beyond garbage..if they don't want ppl to abuse these... Why create a bupe only pill with less filler than a roxy 30? Dumb move guys. The ppl who like hi-tech 8 arrows probably abuse them.

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Hannah Says:
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Re: Bobby (# 105)

I know this is so frustrating!!! I’ve been on these Roxanne’s for many years, and now nobody has them so I’m not sure what to get this month. Those 8 arrow ones are terrible. The orange moons are terrible. I just don’t know what to get. Rhodes or Hikma (which says 54 411 on them which the Roxanne’s do as well but I heard they were garbage so I don’t know lol.) sorry I’m all over the place! Thank you for responding :)

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Bobby Says:
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Re: Hannah (# 107)

Rhodes is on back order. So unless they JUST came off then those are not available. Rhodes is by far the best generic on the market in my opinion. Way better than the hikma pills. They are probably comparable to the old Roxanne pills before they changed them. The rest are garbage really. The only other one that even seemed like it was worth getting in an emergency was the actavis but it's full of fillers and the orange flavor kills me. Hi tech is way underdosed and sun was like I was taking a different medication and I had withdrawal even when I upped the dose. Mylan was the worst it had like no buprenorphine in them! Crazy.. I'm just hoping that Rhodes comes off of back order soon because this seems to happen every year with whatever brand I'm taking. I had gotten rhodes for 7 months straight then this month I had to get the hi techs and ugh jeez. This is ridiculous. They should bring back the brand name version and have it available to people who want high quality and don't mind paying more. Or sell the brand formula to a company who can release it as the brand name again. I would definitely only use the brand name if it was available.

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Serenity Sinner Says:
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Yes ROXANNE SOLD OUT TO WESTWARD AND THEN WESTWARD SOLD OUT TO HIKMA. Hikma has tweaked the ingredients and they aren’t the same anymore in my opinion. Good luck. The best two on market now are Hikma and Rhodes/Perdue. Those are the only two worth a s***. The rest suck so bad. And now a new one is out called Acorn.

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Re: Jay (# 106)

Jay, you are so right about the little Hi-Tech ones and people abusing them. I live in Buffalo NY and have a lot of friends who are all in recovery and have been on Subutex for the last few years. I know maybe ten people including myself who all have always taken the 54s. Then there's maybe 2 or 3 we know who would always specifically request the Hi-Tech ones because they abuse them, apparently it's like pure Subutex with no filler, where the 54s are like 3/4 chalk and cut. Anyone I know that's taking their subs as prescribed, sublingually, have all said the same thing- that these tiny ones SUCK and you start feeling slight withdrawals after taking them a few days, then really really s***ty after taking them for a week or two. I could not believe after being clean for 4 years that I was waking up in withdrawals last month.

I found this old post probably the same way you all did- typing into Google why can't I get my Roxanne labs Subutex anymore. The rite aid I've used for 4 years filled my script the last 2 months with the Hi-Tech, without even calling me before doing it, when it specifically says in my rite aid prescription profile to NOT fill by Hi-Tech no matter what, I've been going there for years they all KNOW there that I can't take these garbage things, my doctor has specifically sent them faxes for them to keep in their files that I can only take the Roxanne or mylan ones. Their excuse was "well it's the only ones available, anywhere, right now so you don't have a choice, we can't even order them anymore" that's what my pharmacist told me last month at my regular rite aid, so how did I get them filled at another rite aid 8 miles away this morning with Roxanne? They did tell me this morning that at their location they do have more ordered, but they are in backorder and have been for weeks without receiving any new deliveries or any idea of when they will actually come in. My usual rite aids head pharmacist who I've been dealing with for years told me last month that they're not making them anymore, that I have no choice. But this other rite aid location, that I've never used before, tells me this morning that it's not true, they're just on backorder. So I don't know who to believe, all I know is I'm praying to God they get some Roxanne's, or mylans, or something ANYTHING besides these hi-tech's or orange activas or whatever they are called, those are just as bad. It just infuriates me that the pharmacists are acting like I'm so ridiculous asking for the 54s, like I'm abusing them or something, when it's 100% the people who order the hi-tech's who are the abusers, they've got it so backwards it gets me so mad.

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Jay Says:
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No they didnt. I beliebe a bew mfg makes em.now tho. Last month i had the hikma 460s this month back to 54 411 (my preferred-even tho they're all the same. Cept those tiny 8 arrows by hi tec) even my doc said ALL his patients gate the small 8 arrows. This month was back to 54 411 as i said. But mfg. Still said hikma? Hmm il google it

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Jay Says:
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54 411 are my fave. Habe u tried the new white round 460s? I liked em. But they have alot of hate here on em.

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Disgusted with pharmacist discrimination Says:
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Re: Serenity Sinner (# 109)

I found out the “Akorn“ are the small ones and just the same as hi-tech. I hate the hi-tech, they are garbage, the absolute worst! There is a huge shortage of the 54 411s, it’s so frustrating. I can NOT take the small ones, they are useless!!!! Are they on backorder everywhere?

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Charlene Says:
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Re: Disgusted with pharmacist discrimination (# 113)

I'm in southwest Florida, just yesterday picked up my 90 subs from CVS in the sealed bottles say hikma from CVS my normal pharmacy has not been able to get the Rhodes for me, now it could have been worse because I almost settled with the orange half moon from Walgreens, and would have had a rotten month..

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