Big Pharma's Lockdown On Legitimate Chronic Pain Patients (Page 20)

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Is narcotic pain medicine becoming a thing of the past?

Why are doctors across America phasing out the practice of prescribing effective pain medication?

Will big pharmaceutical companies ever truly understand what it's like to face the other side of the coin?

Lately there's been a musty scent in the air surrounding the use of prescribed narcotic pain medication. Many doctors appear to be running scared as the DEA scours through fields of medical records, inspecting prescribing pads like a mouse scavenges for food in a dimly lit cellar.

Should the day come when doctors recommend Ibuprofen to a feeble man who's been involved in a terrible car accident (breaking several bones / requiring extensive surgery), is this doctor at risk of malpractice when there are more effective options available that they choose not to pick, out of fear? Fear of what? Doing the right thing? No, I don't think this is the reason... Somewhere along the line, in the not too distant past, doctors were loosely prescribing narcotic pain medication as if it would never go out of style. Nowadays, the harsh penalty of potentially losing their license for writing any unknown number of opiate prescriptions over so many calendar days or some other form of strict criteria, has been enough to prevent many physicians from taking even subtle "risks" with patients who are expressing obvious signs of pain and discomfort.

The unfortunately unique problem with pain is that it's not a physical object and in order for others to detect it, they'd have to rely solely on the backbone of our body language using their intuition - something that's gone missing in western practice. If more doctors took the time and really got to know their patients front to back, then they will be their own best judge of deciding what the right thing to do is, regardless of what the DEA thinks about their decision or what their drug representative wants out of the deal. Sadly, until patients are put before profits, the foundation of America's healthcare system remains in jeopardy like an iceberg affected by global warming.

While I believe that the vast majority of human beings in their right mind would choose to do the right thing, we must all work together to become the change we wish to see within every aspect of our lives; and knowing that by doing so, it will shine light on those crossing our path that need it most.

In the meantime, some patients may have to find another way to manage their pain without putting their life or health at risk. Others are turning to natural alternatives such as kratom, cannabis, turmeric and/or implementing various lifestyle changes into their daily regime... But the key is to never give up hope.

What will you do?

Warm regards to all who face life's challenges head on.

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The whole opioid crisis is as fake as it comes! It's a heroin & fentanyl crisis period! The CDC has already been caught extremely cooking the books on pharmaceutical opioid overdose deaths! This all started under the Obama administration with big pharma looking for a huge payday! All ready there has been studies by Harvard, John Hopkins, The University of North Carolina and others who completely refute this opioid crisis as a pharmaceutical opioid crisis! Less than 1% of actual opioid patients die from an overdose! So why the lie? New pills for big pharma $$$$! Since prescription rates have decreased over 41% percent in the last few years the opiate death rate has soared! But how is that possible? That's because since they ruined pharmaceutical opiates people use heroin, heroin laced fentanyl and bootleg pills laced with fentanyl! Politicians are as clueless as they come just like always. I wonder how many of them and government employees are on the big pharma payroll?

As far as medications working like they use to. Something has been done to greatly reduce the oxytocin level excreted by the pituitary gland which is around 75% of how synthetic opiates work to help tolerate pain; around 25% comes from the opiate itself! Stop all this total BS of 20% this 20% that! They've altered the medications to reduce the oxytocin levels! Any blood work for oxytocin will back up what I'm saying! Take a lot more pharmaceutical opiates and have a another blood sample taken and it will show only a negligible increase in your oxytocin levels! Time for a reality check people! Stop with all these fake conversations! It's all big pharma and government lies playing everyone for stupid just like always!!! This is an outrageous crime being committed by big pharma and our government on suffering Americans! When people talk about government over reach! This is one of the best examples that I can think of in almost 60 years of being alive!

It's all about big pharma profits first and Americans second. Our government is as low down as they come, the Obama administration started it and it seems Trump and company are continuing the big fake pharmaceutical opioid crisis lie! Just remember what I said before because it is the undeniable truth, THIS IS A HEROIN AND FENTANYL CRISIS!!! Any other story is complete BS!!! All of what I've said can be found on the internet via think tanks, college universities, medical schools and others who have spent an incredible amount of time debunking the fake pharmaceutical opioid crisis and this actual war on pain patients because that's what it has turned into entirely from a failed war on drugs and big pharma profits!!!

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Mare (# 378) --

Unfortunately, the insurance companies deny a prescription all the time. I am appealing their decision to deny me what I am prescribed because their alternative is cheaper. Funny, they will also approve a pain medication that is much stronger than what I am asking for. Makes no sense. I have an inoperable shoulder issue where TWO Neurology practices gave me the same prognosis two months apart. They BOTH said they can improve my shoulder with surgery and months of rehab but one guy was honest with me and said it may only improve 10% and that is after surgery, months of rehab and a scar that will last a lifetime. I asked them my options and I was told I had three (1) surgery, (2) shots or (3) take my meds. Given the options I chose to take my meds. Everything was fine for the first 12 years until the manufacturers decided to change their formulations and I was told by TWO pharmacists from TWO different major pharmacies that if I wanted something that would have a standard efficacy that I should ask for the NAME BRAND medication and not the generics. I asked my insurance company to change to the name brand and they said no. I am currently appealing their decision as it is totally nonsensical. The point is the insurance companies make the most insane medical decisions without ever examining you. Surgery would cost major money and require hospitization. Shots are expensive and I would have to take them until I die at least twice a year. The pain medications that I tolerate perfectly is the easiest and least expensive way to go but the dumb insurance companies can't figure that out.

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A year late in my response. But it's all true. It is like prohibition in these modern times directed towards chronic p. m. patients for what reason I may I ask. We got hurt in some manner or another & as a result have to take certain meds for the rest of our lives. I am almost 60 now and after taking opioids for 27 years responsibly, is it really my fault to want to live the last 20 or so years that I have left pain free? Of course I have a dependence on some of these meds! But what do you expect after 27 years of use? Leave me alone! I have been doing fine since 1991. They want to cut me off and force me to use heroin or purchase off the streets? Wait for drug store robberies, delivery thefts & break-ins of homes. How are they going to list the deaths of those activities? Lord help us all because it's going to get worse as a result of the ways p. m. patients are going to be treated. I wish they cared about me when I put my butt on the line when I was in the army for 4 years. God bless the U. S.

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Re: Bobby C (# 383) Expand Referenced Message

I feel like you do. Leave me the hell alone! I have been taking pain meds for over 12 years and they work just fine. I don"t want surgery or a life time of shots. The surgery will only partially repair my issue and it is just not worth the pain and aggravation besides I tolerate the pain meds with no problems. Unfortunately for us we will not be left alone. Since we are an easy non impact (politically) target for them we will be their collateral damage.

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Re: w john (# 384) Expand Referenced Message

Web John,

I agree about more surgery. Been through at least 17 different surgeries. Not looking to have ANY more. The limited "success" has been very disappointing. Follow up therapy, which I have always complied with, has been at times helpful, but many times I've wondered if just normal daily life, chores, necessary activities, would not have done the same for me without having to go in 2-3 days a week. Surgery is traumatic and exacerbates many of my chronic issues. Recovery time is taking longer as I get older. Major surgery causes exhaustion and every time it takes me longer to regain my stamina...always less than my level before the surgery. So, unless to save my life, no thank you. I choose med over disturbing my over all well-being. There is a point when some of us just want off this train. Please don't pressure me and allow me to make my own informed decision.

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Re: jaininpain (# 375) Expand Referenced Message

What state are you in? If you're in Delaware I can help....same deal for 500$.

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Re: Mark (# 381) Expand Referenced Message

I have had way more side effects from the non-opioid type drugs than the opiate! My kidney function, my WBC is low, and it's done more damage but they don't want to admit it. I keep notes daily on everything and it's odd to me how my blood work was fine until they screwed with what I took for 10 years and I took a real opiate since 2014. I wasn't told one time that we will take you off without notice until the pain management place was introduced to me. I hadn't heard of them. I felt humiliated! There's so much that can go wrong with drug panels too. I worked in the lab in my 20s and early 30s. So many otc meds can show as something else. I'm also wondering how drs can keep their doors open if they can't give what works! I'm just researching lawsuits, they have done harm but most I seen were cancer patients. CP endure high blood pressure, anxiety, heart problems, and cancer because stress causes several problems. So I'm pretty sure the "do no harm" has been broken!

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Re: JMJ (# 362) Expand Referenced Message

Very true. Been trying to ween myself down before I run into that brick wall. Even layed in bed with pistol in my hand I was so depressed. But I am still here! Will hang around to see what ' the powers to be ' do. Besides after a toxialgoly sp.? report was done the few opiods in my system would be chalked up as an opiod O. D. !! I won't give them that satisfaction.

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Re: Sissy (# 380) Expand Referenced Message

Sissy, in NY there is Community Health Advocates.

E-mail is: [email protected]
Phone number is: 1-888-614-5400

If you are not in NY, Google “health advocates“ for your state and see if you can find an organization like this one.

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Re: Bobby (# 388) Expand Referenced Message

Hang in there Bobby! This is an awful situation to find ourselves in but as you say, you won't give them the satisfaction. This is exactly what they want. These people could absolutely care less if we live or die. I will not give them the satisfaction either. I have weened myself down to 50% of what I normally take and hopefully I will wean myself down to zero eventually. This is a big fight when one has reached the point of dependence but it is winnable.

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Re: Bobby (# 388) Expand Referenced Message

Aww your exactly right! I sure hate what everyone is experiencing. I'm just amazed why their doing this and also when did the government care about addicts? Make me think we live in a 3rd world country because they are dictating how we raise kids, what they eat, our medicine, ect... im noticing older people are getting treated worse. And our vets! In the old days every American would not have tolerated this!

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Re: w john (# 390) Expand Referenced Message

I've not been able to wean down from 10mgs, which is not high, but still it is what I feel I need to function. I have tried and succeeded keeping my med at this level, but I could use more. Yup. But if I hope for more, it isn't going to happen. My choice. I will not be subject to monthly visits, pill counts, ua's. Just not gonna do it. If the only way, in the future, I can get my med is through pain management, I'm not going to do it! This is just so wrong. It's degrading and humiliating. But, by digging in my heels, I just may have to do without. Then....I will only use my doctor for blood pressure, blood thinner, cholesterol type meds. I will try to maintain a cordial relationship because I need those meds. I am sooooo sick of specialists, physical therapy, invasive tests, shots, and calls from helpful blue cross nurses. They, the nurses want to help me, with diet, with lifestyle changes, with possible abusive situations, but....just ask them to help you maintain a regimen of pain medicines to keep you functional and operating/working every day and all of a sudden they forget they are your advocates. Oh, they will help with your mammograms, colonoscopies, dietary advice, quit smoking support, exercise and physical therapy....find you a specialist and advocate in any field needed, except someone willing to access your records, look at your history, read your prescription history, and help continue you on the meds required for a productive life.

I am so TIRED AND FED UP with enthusiatic, happy clappy educated *****s doing me favors. Bending over backwards to see I do anything and everything, but take the meds that work for me. They DO NOT CARE what is working now, it has to STOP!!!! Why??? Because, doncha know....there is a BETTER way. Your BC/BS patient advocate is not sure what, but anything is better than opioids! There I've said it....O-P-I-O-I-D-S. That dirty 6 letter word. But, you say....I feel so much more able bodied, so much more functional on my meds....Oh, but you can't rely on meds....well, why not??? Take my word for it, they are bad!! Bad? Why? I can actually get up and MOVE using them. Well...that's not real...It's not? No, it's not. Oh...that's funny, come see my lovely home. Come see the work I've done and tell me how my meds did NOT help me out here. Come see before you cut me off from the meds that enabled me to function, to work, to be productive....Advocate-Oh, don't be stubborn. Wait...wait....hey, we have a few new formulations I know you'll like better. Opiate isnminimum!!! They're NEW after all. Not addictive...new...let's see about getting you some of those...meh, (under her breath..since you're so bent on popping pills.)

Oh, lordy, save me from my insurance patient support nurse. She is just following her script, I know, but her calls drive me nuts. She assumes I am stupid. She assumes I haven't a clue about diet, exercise, mental wellness, and mammograms. She talks to me like she would a child, tells me what works doesnt, and works ever so hard to convincing me I will die without a team of specialists and someone to walk me through the medical quagmire I have found myself in. Oh please...STOP!! STOP NOW!!! They may mean well but I hate being smothered by good intentions. Just help me get what works...or dont. If you can't help me get what works, just leave me alone. I'll figure it out myself. But, I won't go to pain management, even if that ends up my only option. Can't say I blame anyone for submitting to PM. Many are in much worse shape than I. There, another rant. Seems I just can't help myself.

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Re: Ktb (# 387) Expand Referenced Message

Speaking of drug panels. About 10 years ago I came back positive for morphine and wasn't on it! That's because I'm deathly allergic to morphine. It closes my air way down to a pin hole almost! My doctor at first said, Mark there's a problem with your last U/A. You came back positive for morphine. The first thing I said was, why would I take something that I'm deathly allergic too? He then said, your right Mark why would you do that? I didn't! That same day I had a lab hair follicle drug panel done and it showed that I only had taken oxycodone hcl for around the last 6 months. This other drug lab stood behind their false positive for morphine on me even with another lab refuting it with a hair follicle evaluation. Well to make a long story short this lab with the false positive for morphine got investigated and they caught several technicians not checking the U/A samples and putting false positives on a random sample now and then.

This lab had so many diagnostics to do from hundreds of clients that the techs couldn't keep up with the load so they chunked a lot of samples and would false positive random samples to make it look like they were doing their job. The lab was sued by anyone with a positive result, went bankrupt and was shut down by the state! I see from posts all over Medschat how this fake opiate crisis has ruined so many lives by refusing to treat legitimately suffering patients. Where I live the pain management clinic I go to hasn't bowed down to this insane propaganda on chronic pain patients. My doctor said that anything he or other doctors do in their practice can be justified or they wouldn't risk their licensing or DEA prescribing privileges. He said the DEA has paid them many visits in the last few years trying to find something because they do prescribe alot of opiates. They don't freely prescribe anyone opiates and follow Texas law to the letter! In the past quite a few doctors were indeed very liberal with their prescribing habits. These are the places you see that have been shut down or a doctor closing their practice. All it takes these days is just one patient receiving any opiates that can't be fully backed up with multiple evaluations and their DEA prescribing privileges are history and for a pain management doctor that's their livelihood!

You're exactly right about OTC drugs being much harder on your liver and kidneys than synthetic opiates and I remember the studies decades back that proved this! Now it's as if those studies never happened. I've been in pain management for 30 years come June 19th and back in those days the restrictions on schedule II opiates outside of a hospital environment were much more restrictive than today by far! I had a bad epidural abscess from a back surgery and the leg pain is like someone tied horses to my legs, tried to pull them off and then let a city bus run over them repeatedly! My lumbar is wasted too and the dural sac is extremely scarred. Having scar tissue rubbing on my spinal cord! I have a multilead spinal cord stimulator implant and take a boat load of Oxycodone CR & IR. Without the opiate therapy the pain is so severe that I can't tolerate the pain to walk, move or basically spend the rest of my life in bed!

I read these posts on Medschat and they're just gut wrenching to read about the nightmarish lives of others who aren't properly being medicated so they can have some quality of life. It's just amazing how many doctors have coward down and let their patients suffer because of the bullies in the DEA, FDA, FBI, CDC and other government agencies that have no clue or better yet even care about what they're doing to suffering Americans! I read an article recently about how Medicare was considering to limit it to 90mg per day of opiate therapy that they would pay for... More of the socialist agenda in government to one size fits all. Jeff Sessions and the DEA are talking about reducing opiate manufacturing in the US another 25% next year. They already had reduced it 25%and last year! Talk about insanity! Hospitals across the country are in crisis mode because they don't have enough injectable type opiates to treat major injuries or manage post surgical pain for in patient care! How insane! Whether you're a Democrat, Republican, Independent or no political affiliation this is why we vote to rid our government as best we can from the voting side of the overreaching closet socialists who think we're all not capable of knowing what's best for us! Unfortunately the biggest problem is those who are appointed that we don't vote for who are actually controlling everything from money to power!

Sometimes I think they want those of us who are injured, severely injured who have to take expensive medications and have to have continuous medical procedures and diagnostics to just die!! We're all a financial drag on money they want to spend elsewhere! What better way to get rid of us by taking away our life saving opiate therapy! Most of us would probably commit suicide to escape our pain. I know put in that situation I probably would take my life! It's a very sad and sadistic times we're living in these days! Government overreach is like we're living in a 3rd world country and no one seems to care! Our biggest advocate is the American Academy of Pain Management and then there's other groups, but unfortunately they're up against the blind empty headed politicians who just want to do anything no matter who gets hurt so they look like they did something. Once again how insane!

The ultimate villain in this whole thing is big pharma whose making a boat load of new abuse deterrent drugs and naloxone added in drugs which btw will make it where opiates won't work on you because some of the naloxone gets out of every pill and into your system. My doctor will not use any opiate that contains naloxone because it destroys the medication his giving his patients in the first place. The longer you take them the more the naloxone gets into your body. This is another big pharma goof and lie! Plus there's absolutely no study whatsoever that shows what happens to a human being who ingests naloxone for decades, scarry Hugh? You're a big pharma Guinea pig and didn't even know it! Well basically any new big pharma drug we're all Guinea pigs for long term use. Just look at all the big pharma lawsuit commercials on TV these days, scary!

Goto the CATO Institute website a think tank in Washington DC and in the search window type opiate and read all the articles on several webpages about this opioid crisis. It's a real eye opener and will anger you too! I pray that soon this fake opiate crisis is exposed on pharmaceutical opiates, but the government has an extremely hard time ever admitting they're wrong and this time it's lunacy on steroids!!

Try not to ever give up! If we all just sit around like church mice then we are all doomed! Write letters to your congressman, senators and advocates about your life and how opiate therapy has given you a life outside of being bed ridden. You can bathe, prepare meals, shop and do things not possible without opiate therapy helping you to tolerate a life with severe chronic pain and be much less dependent on others to live your life! Basically get some self respect back that a horrible surgically unrepairable injury has caused you through no fault of your own! You basically get the idea of how to say what life saving opiate therapy has done for you. If you don't write these letters to lots of influential individuals and organizations then you have no one but yourself to blame when the hammer falls! There's tens of millions of us and until we all become one huge voice of reason it's only going to get worse. We are our best advocates! No one knows what each of us endure, but us! These heartless officials need to be asked, when did our quality of life become less than nothing in your thoughtless interpretation into our lives with zero medical training and studies funded by you to get the results you wanted to get???

Your actions are no less than criminal on needlessly suffering American citizens! There's no telling how many innocent suffering people have died because of your continued farce of a pharmaceutical opioid crisis! This war on chronic pain patients must end and must end now before anymore innocent lives are lost because you can't addmit you were mislead and wrong about your course of action! Your failed war on drugs has now spilled over into the lives of innocently suffering chronic pain patients and this complete insanity must stop now! Once again anything the government gets involved in hurts the weakest members of our society and yet no one in the government seems to have a clue or cares! Another case of the governmental blind leading the blind! Sorry folks, but I could go on and on forever about the insanity of this whole thing! Like I said, all the different storys/threads and topics I read here on Medschat really break my heart that something like this could be done to the weakest members of our society and yet no one in power gives it a second thought, SHAME ON THEM! THEY ARE THE LOWEST OF THE LOW!

May the lord bless all of you out there! Keep up the fight as best you can and don't let this lunatic fringe of our unscrupulous government win! Write letters till your fingers bleed, make calls till your ears fall off! Make no mistake they've declared war on our quality of life, we will not go silently into the night and they will be exposed for the sadistic heartless individuals they are!!!

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Re: Bobby (# 388) Expand Referenced Message

Bobby, so glad you're still around. I feel very much as you do. Being around your age, I too just want to carry on. Use the med they have me on and have a bit of comfort. That's all. We're not naughty children looking for euphoria! Lol. We are people in our middle years. I don't party, sell my meds, or misuse. Just want to be able to DO things with a certain level of comfort. STOP treating us like teenagers. Listen to us. Treat us. It's that simple ua's are inaccurate. You can fail due to cold meds, benadryl. Then you'll be accused of abusing. You're kicked out of pain management though you've done NOTHING wrong. Now we have to live in fear of THAT happening. From month to month I worry, will this be the month they cut me off?

My husband is 100% disabled. Seems unless you are 100%, you are not important. Even if you are 100% they wont treat chronic pain with meds. You served, sacrificed your time and life, but don't expect to be served, cared for afterward unless you are disabled. That is so very wrong.

I agree with you and John. Don't give them the satisfaction.

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Re: w john (# 382) Expand Referenced Message

Let’s get down to the realest of the facts. The poppy flower, the root of all of the dea and cdc’s problem. Now, that’s a natural plant as is tobacco. How many lives has tobacco taken? They are still on the shelves. They were forced to put a warning label on it. Same with alcohol. How many lives has alcohol taken? Also, lives outside of the offender. Truth, the insurance companies refuse some medications but, accept suboxone. If you research this monster you’ll find that it can cause the same problems. My wife was called for jury duty some months back. The defendant was a young male who fell asleep behind the wheel, killing an older man. Suboxone, you guessed it I’m sure. At what point do government agencies get to step outside their jurisdiction and lay hell down on the people who are trying to do things the right way. I’ve had a run of luck the last 5 years. Broken feet, broken hand, dislocated shoulder that I worked with for two weeks before going to the doctor. Surgery thereafter. Broke my fibula, the same one twice within the same year. Then, to finish it up I was robbed, shot with a 45 handgun exploding the tibia in the same leg, loaded into a car and driven to the woods. Carried 150 yards and dumped. Had to drag myself out after laying there 7.5 hours. Then, through the ups and downs, I’ve grown quite a tolerance. My job is extremely physical, working with 200-1000lb units by hand all day.

Every time I started to get a handle and get my feet underneath me, my doctor would drop me drastically. This you know, causes problems in my household. Slowing down on work, staying inside on off days, just to get myself down to what the last huge cut was. Then, the last time to the pharmacist. I went to get the second refill out of three and the pharmacist says “if you are confused about the different medication, Dr. Erwin has now cut all of his patients down to this”. I’m like really. Then, the feeling of having my legs kicked out from underneath me once again, I lost all of the strength and the positive feeling of alright, I think I’ve got it now. Been fighting depression ever since. I’ve grown so tired of all of this. Yes, I’ve thought of suicide. But, that would just hurt my wife and kids. And defeat the reason I dragged myself 150 yards out of the woods backwards. I know it’s not right but, sometimes I wished they could be on my end. I’ve been left to feel guilty for praying that prayer. We live in a world where people care more about themselves and can’t see outside their own selfish ways, to show a bit of empathy. Shame on them all. Go after the guys you say are dealing drugs with a pen than getting off your butts and stopping the other drugs in our communities. I pray nothing but the best for you other sufferers. Please, don’t give up. Don’t think the way I did. Just, get out of your own way and make your voice heard.

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Re: Bobby (# 388) Expand Referenced Message

Bobby, I do hope you are doing well. I do not at all disagree with you take on things. Life is hard enough. Do hang in with the rest of us gimps. And we are manyz!! If we can't support one another, what good are we? God bless.

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My wife was on high dose of morphine and OxyContin before the war on opioids kicked into high gear.It became more and more difficult to get her pain meds due to a botched operation.She took her frustration out on cutting down her does on herself for 9 months.She got herself down to 1/2 dose and could not go any further.I took her into an inpatient clinic in a wheel chair because she could no longer walk.3 days later she texted me to come and get her out.To my surprise she walked out under her own power.I was amazed but the best part she has not taking morphine or OxyContin and even going from a wheel chair and walker to a bicycle.Ive been trying for 6 months to get someone to listen to my and my wife’s storey.This is not a cure but she only gets two treatments with very little pain a year and she is closing in on one year with no pain drugs.Ive written everyone from pain clinics,National institute of health to President Trump.I could use some direction from this group to get this message to the right person,my name is Den and Please help me help you

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Re: Hop63 (# 389) Expand Referenced Message

Thank you for the info Hop63. I live in Arkansas, so I will Google for my state. Again, thanks for replying with that info.

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Den1111 (# 393) --

Den1111, you do not say what treatment she actually received that allowed for such a turn around in her care and functionality. I am delighted for her, but curious to know exactly what brought about this most amazing change in her. Again, delighted, but curious. And what was her condition that required she receive in-house treatment. As I type this, I can't scroll to reread your post, so forgive me if you stated her condition already.

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Den1111 (# 393) --

I am sure everyone would like to know what exactly happened in three days of inpatient treatment to cause such a miraculous turnaround.

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