Big Pharma's Lockdown On Legitimate Chronic Pain Patients (Page 12)

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Is narcotic pain medicine becoming a thing of the past?

Why are doctors across America phasing out the practice of prescribing effective pain medication?

Will big pharmaceutical companies ever truly understand what it's like to face the other side of the coin?

Lately there's been a musty scent in the air surrounding the use of prescribed narcotic pain medication. Many doctors appear to be running scared as the DEA scours through fields of medical records, inspecting prescribing pads like a mouse scavenges for food in a dimly lit cellar.

Should the day come when doctors recommend Ibuprofen to a feeble man who's been involved in a terrible car accident (breaking several bones / requiring extensive surgery), is this doctor at risk of malpractice when there are more effective options available that they choose not to pick, out of fear? Fear of what? Doing the right thing? No, I don't think this is the reason... Somewhere along the line, in the not too distant past, doctors were loosely prescribing narcotic pain medication as if it would never go out of style. Nowadays, the harsh penalty of potentially losing their license for writing any unknown number of opiate prescriptions over so many calendar days or some other form of strict criteria, has been enough to prevent many physicians from taking even subtle "risks" with patients who are expressing obvious signs of pain and discomfort.

The unfortunately unique problem with pain is that it's not a physical object and in order for others to detect it, they'd have to rely solely on the backbone of our body language using their intuition - something that's gone missing in western practice. If more doctors took the time and really got to know their patients front to back, then they will be their own best judge of deciding what the right thing to do is, regardless of what the DEA thinks about their decision or what their drug representative wants out of the deal. Sadly, until patients are put before profits, the foundation of America's healthcare system remains in jeopardy like an iceberg affected by global warming.

While I believe that the vast majority of human beings in their right mind would choose to do the right thing, we must all work together to become the change we wish to see within every aspect of our lives; and knowing that by doing so, it will shine light on those crossing our path that need it most.

In the meantime, some patients may have to find another way to manage their pain without putting their life or health at risk. Others are turning to natural alternatives such as kratom, cannabis, turmeric and/or implementing various lifestyle changes into their daily regime... But the key is to never give up hope.

What will you do?

Warm regards to all who face life's challenges head on.

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Re: Roro (# 220) Expand Referenced Message

The Constitution does not have to say that for it to be Constitutional.

You and so many others have no idea what you're talking about. If you did. Things would not be where they are now.

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Re: Scott (# 211) Expand Referenced Message

What state are u in??? I have a few Drs names for u in Arizona and Nevada, I have no problem getting my meds, no I don't have cancer

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Re: BL (# 221) Expand Referenced Message

Tenth Amendment - Reserved Powers

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

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My dr. took me off my tramadol 50 mg and oxycodone 5mg that I take twice a day, because I took a small amount of morphine sulfate that I had left over from when I was on hospice over 6 years ago. I still have bad lower back pain but nothing to ease it with. How could I get some relief?

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The side effects of naloxone are rapid heart rate, nausea, vomiting, shaking, sweating, withdrawal symptoms, shortness of breath, rapid breathing, irregular heart rate, headaches, ect. The naloxone in the opioid pills metabolize at a slower rate than the opioids so by the time you start to feel the opioids the naloxone has started to reverse the effects of them. When you get up in the morning naloxone is gone from your system so when you take a pill you feel the effects of the opioids better than any other time of the day but it's short-lived. The rest of the day you feel nothing or close to it because the naloxone has started to build up in your system. If you take a pill before it's time, the naloxone has had time to dissipate from your system and that makes the side effects worse. What you get for your money is a lot of side effects to go along with your pain and the pharmaceutical companies get their big $. Then there's the government, the fake news and the people that have been misinformed by them about illegal opioids being included in the opioid deaths... The pharmaceutical companies have sold this to the government at the expense of the chronic pain patient. The politicians are getting their pockets lined by the pharmaceutical companies.

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Why is it that I cannot obtain the amount of hydrocodone that I need for my chronic pain? I understand that some people are overdosing on pain meds but why does that have to affect millions of chronic pain sufferers like me? I have scoliosis from Polio and I will never get better. I cannot get the dosage I received in the past and my quality of life is horrible.

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Re: Rich (# 226) Expand Referenced Message

What I find interesting is that I never hear anyone say they have chronic pain and got addicted to the pain meds. It’s always, I got into a car accident and got addicted or I broke some bones and got addicted. And studies have shown that the chance is very low of becoming addicted if it’s used by chronic pain patients. We are being labeled and categorized unfairly as addicts that are abusing our meds and therefore should just not be able to get the meds anymore and no one wants to hear stories about chronic pain patients and what we have to go through day in and day out. All they want to hear about is people abusing the meds and overdosing. It’s absolutely inhumane to take people off these meds cold turkey with no options cuz the CDC and government are scaring the crap out of doctors so they just up and drop patients that have been on these meds for years. I’ve been taking them for 16 years and if my doctor ups and takes them away with no warning I will be suffering severe pain and withdrawals and I can’t believe the government has no problems doing that to people! I just really hope they will make exceptions for chronic pain patients that we can all live with. Otherwise, watch out for suicides and overdoses from heroin!

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Re: Dave (# 224) Expand Referenced Message

I'm so sorry as this is happening to everybody! They're even talking about taking lyrica because they can't seem to leave well enough alone. It's terrible & the ones who can fight are fighting back. There's some lawyers getting involved because studies are showing their tapering wrong and causing more harm to legit patients. The drs hopefully will start standing up if the right attorneys start helping CP patients get these legal cases for doing harm. There's not an opioid problem. I'm sure you're aware it's more illicit drug use that's causing this and they're even trying to take Kratom away that some say helps them! All I know is try to take what little they give & research all you can to find other things to help along with a dr who's not afraid of the DEA. There's enough going on in this country without making others suffer. If you read through these posts you will see it's happening to almost everyone and they have diseases or injures without cures. I wish I had better answers for you but I don't. It's a mess and they think one size fits all but it doesn't. They don't know how to treat pain or they would have left others alone and the incompetent drs think the ones that's had good results for years & living a productive life can just taper down in 2 weeks. That's really dangerous. Patients can't taper off something if they're in pain and if you do research with Mayo Clinic, true addiction is hard if your truly in pain. It's dependent like needing heart meds or blood pressure meds to live. Those meds have more recalls and side effects than the pain meds but the DEA refuses to acknowledge it. Hopefully each gets affected by this and they will because everyone at some point has a family member or they can get hurt themselves and need more than steroid shots and Advil! NSAIDs cause strokes so it's all backwards. Sorry this is long, I tend to do this time to time Bc I get so angry knowing so many people suffer for no reason. Hang in there! And like I said, try to stay on the forums and YouTube for latest updates Bc everyone has got to stick together!

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Re: Dave (# 224) Expand Referenced Message

I was checking in on you to see if you were able to get your meds straightened out? Morphine isn't the best for pain & it sounds like they just wanted excuse to trade you to another dr. I often wonder if everyone got up and refused to pay these clinics and walked out if that would help. Of course make sure you have your meds so you're able to fight back. It's awful! Raise millions to save elephants but not people. I love animals don't get me wrong but I'm just saying it's got to where we are less than animals. You may have to go back on hospice. I think the other one is called palliative care and I heard chronic pain patients without cures qualify. I'm assuming Bc it's a money thing. Anyways, I hope you got some better news!

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Re: Ktb (# 228) Expand Referenced Message

Haven't posted to this site for a little while now. Just been monitoring to see if anyone out there has actually found any lawyer's that are willing to do anything for those of us individuals chronically suffering from "the opioid crisis". Political Correctness be damned. Save the whales. Rescue abused animals. Buy one & get the 2nd 1 for free, just pay separate postage & handling. We have pets as well & we consider them a part of our family as well, i don't want anyone out there get me wrong either. Last pain specialist I saw made one of, if not the most ridiculous suggestion yet to me. Go to a group meeting of people affected with chronic pain as well & just talk about how you're feeling. I think she was self medicating because what would that accomplish, for those of us that would even be able to make it out of the house & be close enough to any venue that - - - -
Just anger & frustration in person, rather than online to one another. Huh. I'm not at a loss for words. It's just that the ones I'd like to use would never make it onto this site. Good Luck.

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Re: Ktb (# 228) Expand Referenced Message

Are you saying there are attorneys that are suing on behalf of chronic pain patients that have been tapered ? If you are please provide the links or other info.

There is nothing legally wrong with doctors not prescribing opiates. Or doctors tapering patients. Those on high doses need to realize they will do better on low doses. It does take time to adjust to a lower dose.

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Re: BL (# 231) Expand Referenced Message

That is so true. I actually brought myself down from 540mg daily, to my current dose over a 6 month period not too long ago. Yeah, they actually had me up to that high a daily dose. I tapered myself down, with no help from them I'm proud to say. Even though I'm down 2 thirds from that dose they still feel it's too high. Though these"professionals" have never once made any type of derogatory comment about the "specialist" that put me on that high a dose, gee, go figure. As far as a lawyer, I've been looking at all sites I've been able to access. No luck, so far. Anybody else out there got a lead? In my experience, petitions are waste of time and effort. None of them I've investigated have gotten far
Check out some of the other threads. I actually found one going all the way back to 2011, with last post to it it in '13.

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Threads like these need to stay current. It seems there are "players" in the shadows trying to herd the nations consent towards eliminating pain medication as a treatment. President Trump (& I do not blame him, it's been heading this way for decades) this morning announced a $6 billion initiative that has some very scary parts that if implemented would destroy the lives of many people. It includes having doctors cut their prescription amounts for chronic pain patients to a 1/3 of what has already been reduced to NOT WORKING!

For whatever reasons, I was returned to this life, after being dead quite some time. My body left mangled beyond recognition, from a car wreck in 1985. 3 months in a hospital, letting my body heal as much as it could was basically the only thing medicine could offer, along with huge amounts of morphine. I coded 3 times due to my pain levels... When you have to be placed in a vat of blue foamy looking stuff on a flat table with a crane to be bathed every so often, it's bad. Was told I would never walk again. And a lot, if not most people in forums such as this one can tell similar stories. The average person, who has never experienced a severe injury just would not BELIEVE how far a human body can be torn apart, and they survive. I, like most, can also vouch to many times laying around day in, day out, contemplating suicide.

I remember "Pain Management" in 1988. It costs $500 for intake, and a 500 question, multiple answer exam was administered. Asking questions that ranged from "do you love your mother?", to "do you speak with Jesus Christ".... Even then, chronic pain was treated as a mental issue! But, I was one of the lucky ones I guess, that was accepted. And for the very first time had access to pain medication without having to go to a doctor and go through the explaining, begging, relying on the sympathy of a person that pledged to never cause harm, and their wanting to end my suffering to get relief. I will admit, before this "option" was available I made the rounds.... alcohol, cannabis, etc. Self-medicating is HELL & I would not wish it on anyone!!! The types of scum I had to let in my life to be able to cope. The remarks on "how I must be one hell of a druggy" even from druggies because of the amounts of intoxicants I could take with seemingly little effects.

Watching my health fade before my eyes. Feeling this life, that was spared from death, slowly slip from my grasp. I took that "hand up" that was given in 1988 and made a life for myself once again. Being able to finish college, to work. To leave my parents house & be able to take care of myself again. Over the years, this sneer towards patients of pain doctors has bounced my health, my income, my outlook on life like a basketball, up & down. Over & over. Just recently the 2012 DEA attack that left me with no pain doctor. No medicine. I don't even remember how much is in my profile on my real identity & I don't care. Even as careful as I was, even leaving myself in pain as I tried to sparingly medicate myself I found myself in backs of ambulances, fighting to stay alive. This "opiate epidemic" is NOT WHAT IT SEEMS TO BE!!! The heroin is SO FULL OF fentanyl it's UNREAL! This is what's KILLING PEOPLE! Not the heroin, in my belief. It even contains a drug called "Carfentanyl" (if correctly spelled) which is a 1,000 X's stronger than fentanyl, which is what? A 100 X's stronger than.........You get the picture?

Now, my "pain management" has been reduced to 120mg's/day. Which includes the "extended relief" part of my medication. Which leaves me HURTING all day, but able to breathe & be mobile. But in my home only. Going to the doctor to get my prescriptions is an effort. Grocery shopping can leave me recovering for 3 days!!!! I'm going to leave it at this. WE OF THE FORGOTTEN PART OF SOCIETY NEED TO SPEAK OUT! It happened once in 1901. It's in history for everyone to read. A calculated attack on pain care, whether from religion, or however it left doctors unable to write even a single prescription for an opiate because they would not just be "called out", "ostracized", from their community, they would literally be RUN OUT OF TOWN! This was the cause of a lot of deaths, a lot of people NOT recovering, or recovering as well as they would have from surgeries, diseases, etc....
ANYONE? I know I'm not alone...

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I’m curious to see if other people are having this issue or if it’s just my husband and I. So we’ve been taking pain meds for many many years now, Norco and Percocet to be exact. And it seems like this past year the meds don’t seem as affective anymore. It takes longer to start working and they just don’t last as long. I know you build up a tolerance the longer your on them at the same dose but I don’t think we would both have this happen at the same exact time. We’ve tried 3 different brands since it depends on what our pharmacies supplier sends them; so we’ve tried Mallinkrodt, Amneal, and Aurobindo. Amneal was the absolute worst of the 3. It will be great to hear other people’s experience with their pain meds. It just seems like this has all happened since the big opioid crisis. Could we be right about the effectiveness or is it just ‘us’?

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Re: Stephen (# 233) Expand Referenced Message

I agree 100% and everyone will be affected. It's completely against our rights & it seems there will be lawsuits because a dr leading a patient on over even 1 year but 15 or 20 yrs! Should stand up to DEA for his/her patient. If you have lived a productive life & no bad side effects then they should leave one alone. They don't know how to taper, they don't know that 90 mg may not work for every medication, and they're causing people to have strokes, heart attacks & high BP. Their findings are false & if everyone could find strength to fight they could put these *****s in their place. There's not a opiate crisis. It's illicit drugs like methamphetamine, heroin, ect & you do know their numbers are including people who's been in car wrecks or died of other heath problems in their statistics of deaths of opioids don't you? Just because it comes up in their system they had attributed it to the addicts. Also, there's more deaths & health problems related to NSAIDs, diabetic meds, and Tylenol. I worked in medical and lab a long time & I've never seen a person in pain management have failing kidneys or other life threatening side effects as they claim. However, NSAIDs caused a lot to be in icu with blood transfusions. I'm one that had abdominal bleeding with NSAIDs. I will post the link or name of the group heading to Washington to speak up for chronic pain patients & making them stop comparing us to the ones who unfortunately overdosed. Rehab can't help someone in pain. I bet a lot of these that say opioids don't work didn't have a true illness or injury. We have allowed political leaders to take over everything & if we can't speak out we will be checking out. I want to live as everyone else & do fun things as I used to! They're bothering ones who's been on it years. I don't think anyone on here enjoys taking a pill or being humiliated by drug panels & paying outrageous prices to see their dr. I also don't think whenever everyone was prescribed their pain meds that their dr gave a time line or explained they might be taken off. This is wrong & I've seen that they're wanting to mess with lyrica! Sorry this is long but I had to rant with you. Big hug to you & everyone else. Let's stay strong & fight!

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Pain meds - Go to National pain report and read a article by Angelika Byozkowski about Government Data versus Government Policy

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Re: Really agitated right shoulder Oxycontin guy who (# 232) Expand Referenced Message

Last year my prior pain management doctor came in the room on a routine maintenance visit, already going through the spiel about the CDC this & the CDC that, and I have to cut your dosage amounts. I was ready for this, keeping current on all issues concerning my care & said "the CDC had no governing authority to even ask for this, let alone between a patient and their doctor". To which he promptly agreed, leaving my dosage amounts the same but adding that in the future they will need to be reduced. He obviously did NOT get any straight forward retaliation from most the patients because allot were complaining & the majority of them disappeared over the next two visits if mine. His practice losing upwards of 75% it more! This is the only thing I can recommend. To know the law concerning your treatment for your area. Stay up to date on trends, talks, that may affect you. Whether it was his loss of patients, or coming to understand general broad spectrum actions will never cover the majority... Was never talked about cutting doseage levels again. Which already had a ceiling of 120mg's/day for both IR & ER!!!

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Re: Ktb (# 235) Expand Referenced Message

Please share the information about the group going to Washington. Bodies, day in and out then showing in masse peacefully is important!

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No, your concerns ARE legitimate. It's pharmacy chains though not med companies. For effectiveness on ANY medication DO NOT use Rite Aid pharmacy! You can try yourself between a medication from them & said like prescription from any other pharmacy (except Walgreens) and rite aids medicines will NOT work at all! Walgreens has purchased Rite Aid but even with my last IR medication. Changing from RA to a local non-chain pharmacy increased the medications 'relief' on my pain at least 30%!!!

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Re: nomas (# 236) Expand Referenced Message

That's an excellent site that updates you ! There's so many articles that's revelant to everyone !

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