Anyone Heard Of Methadone Clinics Watering Down Methadose? (Top voted first)

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Anyone heard of methadone clinics "watering down" the methadose? There have been people at my clinic complaining of getting sick in the evening all of a sudden.

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I don't go there to dose. I work there an seen it and filed the compliant my self thank you

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Adding water to your take home bottel does NOTHING to your dose...its the same MG of done in there if they add no water or fill it to the top with water.....now if they add water to the big bottel of methadone that the machine despences from, yes that could dilute the the dose that it despences....but adding it to the take home bottel after they dispence the done into it does nothing to the dose in it...your all fine relax....most of it is just mental and your addiction playing games in your head on you.

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@VERNON.....I don't know if you are taking methadone or how much knowledge you have on it but, I assure you it takes a long time to get used to the dose you're on. I'm talking years in most cases. Anything can happen in a clinic, nothing would shock me. I won't mention names or area but a nurse at one I know of was stealing methadone for her own use, also was hooked on xanex. NOT saying this goes on all over but anything is possible when humans are involved.

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I get 2 weeks take home and have been in full compliance for 13 years. Why is it so hard to believe a pharmacist or assistant may have a drug problem or selling? And one guy said "they're not b/c it's dirt cheap" yes it is for the clinic but it's not for anyone wanting to use it for illicit reasons. its not readily available to abuse or sell unless you are a paying client or staff! that's common sense. there are 4 registered nursed that are clients at my clinic (if that tells you something) they were shorting pain meds at their hospitals for personal use. One had been doing this at first to sell then became addicted. just because you are in recovery doesn't mean you're paranoid. i've gotten many clues this is happening. If you report it, you are the one who is scrutinized and punished!

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1st of all not every one that complains are trying to get more I know for a fact the clinic I was going to was watering down there methadone b/c I got my own levels tested and tested my take home in a real medical lab so don't trust all clinics and assume ppl just want more b/c they could go up if they wanted obviously the ppl complaining really want Help!!!!!!

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Me I was on for a year low dosing and others complained about how they felt withdrawal on their normal dosage. It only happened when the meth was dispensed in the tubes not out of the bottle.i don't get what difference would it be tube or original to them. They said the straw doesn't pick up low count in container but it does on tube lol ok. Then they should find another way. Sealed tamper proof bottles

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Yes!!!! Turning Point in Blairsville, Ga does this and they were shut down and opened back up under new owners. But the same thing is goin on. Only go to a clinic that will give you the pills. That is how clinics make their money.

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Yes.and no it's not because I'm getting used to my dose.i get 2 weeks take home and notice inconsistentcy from day to day.

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I would like to comment about the person who claimed they felt their doses of methadose was being tampered with, you are RIGHT!! I am presently dealing with this right now at my clinic in phila. I was on 100mg.'s last October. I detoxed off benzo's and had to up my dose some. That's understandable, but everytime I would Hey stable, I would get stable, I would get sick again. Mind you I have been on Methadone, or "Methadose", for over 10 years, so I know how it tastes, and how it feels when given properly. I could not understand why I ended up having to go up to 245 mg's by the time I finally somewhat leveled off. I knew the methadose was supposed to hold me, but I started to get sick again. It always seemed that when 2 specific nurse's were on. I complained to the clinic, and eventually had a peak and trough done. It showed I still had to go up some. Many others are getting sick as well, and are mouths are real dry every day. I personally think they are cutting it with some type of agent to spread it out, either way you look at it, it's not being given the way it's supposed to be given, and something needs t o be done. I contacted the state , and they claim they did an investigation, and could not substantiate my claim. That's because you have to be behind the nurse's station and where it is stored constantly to really see what's going on. I suggest the feds change their laws, and make all clinics have cameras where they house and serve methadone. Cindy from philly

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@Jeff C.,

As I've said before you have no sense. Of course it's cheap for a clinic to buy the methadone but not for a dirty nurse or tech to buy, taking it and shorting clients. (just like is done with pain pills) many employees of clinics have been fired for this. It is often kept quiet so not to discredit the clinic. And please don't call people who are working hard in treatment junkies or other derogatory names. I have not touched another drug besides my methadone for 16 hrs and have the u/a's to back it up. The stigma and misinformation about mmt is getting tired. People that have turned their life around and working, paying taxes and are a productive member of society deserve the benefit of the doubt. We've worked hard to get where we are so don't disrespect us like that. It makes you look very small minded.

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Kristine your theory is interesting. Have you spoke to anyone there other than the nurse? I think this may have happened to me too. Keep us updated.

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I've been going to the same methadone clinic for three years, and recently they changed to the machine with the tubes, instead of the bottles. I get a month take home and the nurses are even making the take home bottles themselves. I feel a big difference and others at the clinic is also complaining that the methadone seems to be different. It doesn't hold. There have been several of us where the seals weren't good on the bottles and the methadone leaked out into the box. I'm just wondering if anyone else has went through this and knows what's the difference between the machine and the bottles???

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Yea right.they will first take away your Takehome as if you were to blame.they will never admit someone in their employ is to blame.(I've seen it happen

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When you've been on the same amount for a while and suddenly one day you are having WD symptoms, then the next day you are fine, then two days later worse WD symptoms than before...something is going on. That is what the poster is referring to. Not experiencing issues while adjusting, but a discrepancy on a stable dose. Tampering does happen.

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Ive been on Methadone almost 38 years methadone without missing a dose. The only watering down i know of is when the nurse or pharmacist is steal the methadone. Ive been on more programs where methadone was being stolen than not. A crooked nurse can really mess up a hard working addicts life.You can go to work every day if some nurse is taking half of your dose every day.

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DIDI, been there done that. I'd put money someone is taking some of your dose.You should basically feel the same every day unless you are taking opiates or benzo's on top of your dose.

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You're an ass.do you think nurses/doctors aren't capable of being an addict.or that a clinic employee wouldn't want to make some extra cash on the street?when someone like me who has been on mmt for 16 years and the same dose for 8 notices being in withdrawal one day and fine the next and so on...that's not in their head.when a person notices their normally dark mediciney tasting methadone is light pink and tastes a lot less strong that is not in their head.

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Yes. The clinic in fort pierce tampers with the methadone. I attended palm beach meth clinic and their meda are sealed. While their I was almost done down to 6mg. I transferred to fort pierce. While their I ended up raising my dosage to sustain me. Finally after two years their, I finally tapered myself to 4 mgs so I'm done. I pay $400 a month and don't like being ripped off. Everytimenthey put the supposingly left over methadone from the bottle to a tube and I got that one I didn't sleep and went through withdrawals , I did question the nurse and they said that they don't, I asked but your pouring the little from the container into this tube because it doesn't all get sucked up from the container, then why would it work there? It made no sense to me. And when it was on the tube it looked pinkish, so when I got home I would look at it and checked to see if it was watered, I let it still for a while and you could see the water on the top. I don't think any clinic should be allowed to pour the remaining meth from the container to those tubes because they still want all of it and add water shake it then pour it in those tubes. If if doesn't suck up everything in one container, then why would it in the tubes. Anyone can add water. Methadone clinics should all be supervised with cameras recording what's done in that little box. Second when the nurse closes the window, you don't know how much if she's watering it down. It could be for them to make money. I'm taking this all the way to the main person because its not right that you're trying to get helped and instead you're being ripped off. Something shady is definitely going on their and needs to be investigated. The clinic is in fort pierce methadone clinic and the head person is Tom and I'm sure he knows what's going on. Maybe they're not taking the meth but they're making extra money and can be pocketed. I wasn't their because I wanted. I had surgery and pills weren't working I asked a doctor what can I do because the pills don't work and I'm taking more, he said go to a methadone clinic. So that's my story. I am sure that there are more people that can vouch for this. If nothing is done, I am going to contact the news stations and have them out there so that an investigation is conducted.

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Dear Kim, I'm from RI and when I was on methadone they always added water. Even with my take homes, they would add water. I use 2 tell them," just a little water , please ." Some of the nurses listened and others didn't care. I asked them why they add water and they told me, "people won't shoot it up that way."

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I'm from Mich. and recently I went down to Texas and transferred to a clinic there for about a month and the clinic in Texas added water to UR take home bottles right in front of UR face. At first I wasn't sure and said to myself that that's PROB where they are dispensing the meds and said next time I would really pay attention and sure enough they were adding water. I asked the nurse not to add water to my bottles and that I have never heard of a clinic doing that especially not right in front of the patients face. She said that they add water so the methadone doesn't settle and I said settle what??? There is nothing inside the methadone that would settle its not spices or anything and asked her again not to do it and she said that she HAS TO. I discharged myself out of that clinic and went to another. I thought that was bs

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