A Personal Guide To Benzodiazepemes, Inc. Xanax, Diazepam, Lorazepam, Oxazepam, Temazepam, Nitrazepam, Rohypnol And Midazolam
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cheublawm Says:


I have a long and extensive background in taking most members of the benzodiazepam family as listed above. This stems back around 10 years ago when i first took both xanax and diazepam alongside methadone as part of my first H detox and rehab program. My time has been spent living in Thailand where the price and availability of such medications is widespread both through legal and semi-legal clinics and I have a thorough understanding of the differences in the effects, duration and withdrawal from taking such medications on a daily basis for many years. However I was then introduced to the latest drug abuse craze over here that was IV of Dormicum tablets (midazolam), which you could class being similar (although stronger) to rohypinal being used either as a strong sedative in pre-op surgery to heavily sedate the patient or on the street as a date-rape drug where total memory loss and blackouts are attained over a period of up to 6 hours after initial consumption. I had a 2 year spell of being a high dose iV user and addict here, but this took its course and I continued solely with my diazepam and alprazolam daily presciption. There is too much information on this subject for me to write here but please feel free to write me any specific question related to this family of prescription medication.

I am now free from all benzos' having spent the last 4 months quitting diazepam and xanax by cold turkey methodology as I found slow reduction extremely difficult, especially when attaining low doses, finding that I had hit a wall where I could no longer reduce. In summary, I can provide detailed info through my personal experiences to outline all aspects from initially deciding to start a prescription through to the daily effects, both positive and negative, able to differentiate the pro's and cons between each drug in the benzo family that I think would be of interest and benefit to many potential users and users in every stage of their usage and no doubt physical and mental addiction concerns. I can also explain about the politics in the NHS and thought processes and concerns of the doctors that affect their decision process to which drug to prescribe you and the obsticles that prevent them from opting for certain drugs in this group. No question you ask is too trivial or stupid and it is very important to get both the scientific facts that doctors can provide as well as the real info that a long-term user can only provide. Hope that I can be of help to you soon. Thanks, cheublawm



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Rachel Says:
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Hi, firstly thank you for your post. I have been a diazepam user for over a decade and recently I have not been able to get any on my usual websites (I can only afford a monthly box at a time) and took a chance on some nitrazepam. They have N (score) 10 written and others are plain. They are quite large round chalky tasting tablets (I chew them) I had never heard of them before but the websites claim 6 to 8 hours minimum deep sleep and no waking in the night. I am a complete insomniac and terrified cos I have run out of diazepam today and these nitrazepam, which I tried on days I'd taken diazepam, seem to just make me sleepy or woozy. Are they real and are nitrazepam really as good as I am led to believe? I have chronic ptsd and anxiety hence terrified when I go into withdrawal. I also have depression and auto immune illnesses and chronic pain from arthritis, I'm only 38. My gp won't let me have diazepam under any circumstances neither will my psychology, despite being the only thing out of hundreds of trials over my life that has ever worked. Their reasoning is its bad for my body and I'm an addict. Can you please help me with the information on nitrazepam vs diazepam? ???? Kindest regards Rachel

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Lovely Says:
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Hi. Please tell me if there's an alternative to Nitrazepam that's easily available in the market?

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Halo Says:

Brasil. A exatos 11 anos atrás (1996), comecei com o diazepam de 5 mg, e uma tabela crescente, que começou com 30 a 40 mg/dia, divididos em 5 ou 6 tomadas diárias, e aumentando de 10 a 20 mg/dia, por 2 semanas, e a prescrição era para diminuir da mesma forma por um período igual, e retornar ao consultório, para uma avaliação. O problema a ser tratado era bebidas alcoólicas. Nos primeiros dias, foi muito agradável e relaxante, a trégua com as bebidas, e o efeito calmaria provocado com estas dosagens. Como trabalhava na área de vendas 'não abordei este assunto' durante a consulta, notei, após 3 ou 4 dias de descanso, voltei ao trabalho com o público 'vendas diretas', notei que gaguejava bastante, e tive que parar com o remédio. Recuperei a voz normal após 1 dose de Whiskky, e 1 cerveja. Depois acabei misturando as bebidas com o diazepam. Foi uma longa jornada, desta forma, tomando os mais variados tipos de medicamentos.Atualmente, uso a Carbamazepina 200 mg Cr,2/dia, e 2 clonazepam 2 mg/dia, além de um 'agente antiparkisoniano', em baixa dosagem. Posso parar, se quiser, com 'todos eles', porém acho que se fizer desta forma, volto beber, e posso voltar à bebida em excesso, diariamente, o que não é nada interessante, atualmente. Me sinto melhor desta forma.Talvez faça alguns ajustes, quanto às dosagens e medicações. Bebo, muito raramente; algo como 1 vez a cada 3 meses,e não sinto o mesmo 'bem estar', de antes. Desta forma, tem sido melhor.

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I started with 5 mg diazepam and an increasing table, starting at 30 to 40 mg / day, divided into 5 or 6 daily doses, and increasing from 10 to 20 mg / day, For 2 weeks, and the prescription was to decrease similarly for an equal period, and return to the office for an evaluation. The problem to be dealt with was alcoholic beverages. In the early days it was very pleasant and relaxing, the truce with the drinks, and the calming effect brought about with these dosages. As I worked in the sales area, I did not address this issue during the consultation, I noticed after 3 or 4 days of rest, I went back to work with the public 'direct sales', I noticed that I was stuttering a lot, and I had to stop the medication. I regained my normal voice after 1 serving of Whiskky, and 1 beer. Then I mixed up the drinks with diazepam. Carbamazepine 200 mg Cr, 2 / day, and 2 clonazepam 2 mg / day, as well as an antiparasitic agent, at low dosage, was a long journey, in this way, taking the most varied types of medications. I can stop, if you want, with 'all of them', but I think if you do it this way, I'll come back to drink, and I can go back to drinking in excess daily, which is not at all interesting at the moment. I feel better this way. Maybe make some adjustments as to dosages and medications. I drink, very rarely; Something like 1 time every 3 months, and I do not feel the same 'wellness' as before. In this way it has been better.

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Halo Says:

Benzodiazepínicos, possuem a peculiaridade de agirem de modo bastante diferente, de pessoa para pessoa.Uns adormecem facilmente com 2 mg de lorazepam, enquanto que outros,parece funcionar apenas como um leve ansiolítico. Eu, particularmente, nunca apresentei problemas 'cognitivos', ou de repetição de frases, amnésia anterógrada, dentre outros efeitos adversos atribuídos a esta classe de ansiolítico; mesmo em consideradas 'altas dosagens'. diazepam, lorazepam, dentre outros, sequer me provocam sonolência, mesmo em altas dosagens. Me deixam mais disposto e insone. Existem exceções, como o clonazepam e o clordiazepóxido, que me promovem uma sonolência,desde que em doses não muito baixas, e semelhante ao 'sono natural', ou seja; uma sonolência gradativa, que se inicia de 2 a 3 horas após a 'tomada'. Já o midazolam, me deixa completamente insone 'passo a noite acordado, com apenas 2 mg. Parei com o midazolam (Dormonid), por ter um efeito semelhante ao das anfetaminas, porém sem aquela 'euforia toda',mas uma 'calmaria levemente eufórica,e uma excessiva capacidade de metabolizar 'bebidas alcoólicas'; além de promover uma intensa necessidade de consumir bebidas alcoólicas, fossem elas destiladas ou fermentadas. Somente em uma ocasião, em que já me encontrava bastante 'exausto' e sonolento, e tomei 1 dormonid de 1 ou 2 mg, é que dormi rapidamente, porém acordei disposto 2 horas após a 'tomada'.

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Benzodiazepines have the peculiarity of acting quite differently, from person to person. One falls asleep easily with 2 mg of lorazepam, while others seem to function only as a mild anxiolytic. I, in particular, have never presented 'cognitive' or repetition of phrases, anterograde amnesia, among other adverse effects attributed to this class of anxiolytic; Even in considered 'high dosages'. Diazepam, lorazepam, among others, do not even cause drowsiness, even in high dosages. They make me more willing and insomniac. There are exceptions, such as clonazepam and chlordiazepoxide, which promote drowsiness, provided that it is in very low doses, and similar to 'natural sleep', that is; A gradual drowsiness, which begins 2 to 3 hours after the 'taking'. As for midazolam, I get completely insomniacized 'wake up at night with only 2 mg. I stopped with midazolam (Dormonid) because it had an effect similar to that of amphetamines, but without that 'full euphoria', but a mild euphoric lull, and an excessive capacity to metabolize 'alcoholic beverages'; Besides promoting an intense need to consume alcoholic beverages, whether distilled or fermented. Only once, when I was quite 'exhausted' and sleepy, and I took 1 dormonid of 1 or 2 mg, I slept quickly, but I woke up 2 hours after the 'taking'.

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CAW Says:

Does anyone think I would have withdrawal sx from taking 30 mg temazepam 1 to 2 times a week?

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helpmypee Says:

Hi, I'm in pain management and I am being told all my UA are "inconsistent" b/c I am not testing positive for benzo! I am given versed by IV just before my epidural and give urine immediately after. Less than 30 minutes goes by between the versed being administered and the urine collection. WHY are they expecting to see the versed in my urine in less than 30 minutes and wth can I do about it?

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Halo Says:

VELIJA md cloridrato de duloxetina 30 mg. A tempos atrás,estive a tomar a fluoxetina, para potencializar o diazepam. Ganhei um frasco de velija e tomei 1 cápsula antes de dormir; uma experiência inesquecivelmente perturbadora. Ao olhar um objeto,e depois dirigir o olhar a outro objeto, era como uma 'filmadora', com o filme em câmara lenta. O objeto focado, se assemelhou auma 'cortina de um Pinheiral, na frente do Sol', ou parecendo uma lua estroboscópica,ou seja; não conseguia focar nenhum objeto, sem que ele ficasse 'piscando', em movimento, como aquelas 'filmadoras antigas', de 'desenhos animados',e na época da invenção dos filmes.Resumindo: Joguei o frasco no lugar onde já deveria ter ido antes de chegar às minhas mãos.A lata do lixo. Vejo pessoas que descrevem este medicamento, como normais e eficazes. Cheguei ao ponto 'com um único comprimido', de ter a sensação de que não voltaria a pensar, e que tudo terminaria como uma 'foto',onde o objeto último que havia focado, seria a cena final.

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Velija md duloxetine hydrochloride 30 mg. A while ago, I was taking fluoxetine, to enhance diazepam. Velija won a bottle and took one capsule before bedtime; one unforgettably disturbing experience. When looking at an object, and then turn our gaze to another object, it was like a 'camera' with the film in slow motion. The focused object resembled auma 'curtain of a Pinewood in front of the Sun, or like a strobe moon, ie; I could not focus on any object without him to be 'flashing', moving, like those 'old camcorders' from 'cartoon', and at the time of the invention of films. Resumindo: I threw the bottle in place where it should have gone before coming to my hands. The can of garbage. I see people describing this medicine as normal and effective. I got to the point 'with a single pill', to have the feeling that would never think of, and that all would as a 'photo', where the last object that was focused, would be the final scene.

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Halo Says:

Para a retirada completa de benzodiazepinas, sem que a 'parede barreira', ultrapasse a 10 mg/dia de diazepam ou equivalência 'outros benzodiazepínicos', o Melleril (tioridazina) 50 mg, de manhã e 50 mg à noite, adicionado ao Biperidene 4 mg de liberação prolongada, 3 vezes ao dia, sempre deixando a terceira dose para tomar junto ou aproximadamente, com o Melleril, à noite, induz a uma sensação calmaria/estímulo, sem afetar a qualidade do sono. Suspender o diazepam, de uma vez ou, aos poucos, senão tem problemas com convulsões, parece funcionar bem, por um curto período.A sonolência diurna tende a desaparecer, em menos de uma semana. Aí, talvez uma nova avaliação médica, antes da retirada completa diazepam, se necessário, ou manter a dosagem 10mg/dia, preferencialmente no fim do dia, ou à noite. Pode ser uma das alternativas, pelo menos para quem realmente querer parar por completo a utilização de 'benzodiazepinas'. Após 2 ou 3 meses, pode retornar aos 'benzos', e parar com os anteriores, ou talvez, tentar uma nova combinação química.

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To complete withdrawal of benzodiazepines, without the 'barrier wall' exceed 10 mg / day of diazepam or equivalence 'other benzodiazepines ", the Thioridazine (thioridazine) 50 mg in the morning and 50 mg at night, added to Biperidene 4 mg prolonged release, 3 times a day, always leaving the third dose to take along or approximately with Thioridazine, evening, induces a lull / stimulation sensation, without affecting the quality of sleep. Discontinue diazepam, at once or gradually, but has problems with seizures, seems to work well for a short período. A daytime sleepiness tends to disappear in less than a week. Then, perhaps a new medical evaluation, before the complete withdrawal Diazepam, if necessary or to maintain dose 10mg / day, preferably in the evening or at night. It can be an alternative, at least for those who really want to stop completely the use of 'benzodiazepines'. After 2 or 3 months, you can return to the 'benzos', and stop earlier, or perhaps try a new chemical combination.

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EDDY Says:

'Halo's' post in English and may I say what a great thread from the group!
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"I've done prolonged use at high and low dosages prescription 'benzodiazepine' several dozen 'principle-active', both anxiolytics, such as diazepam, lorazepam, bromazepam, clonazepam, chlordiazepoxide, and some, for shorter periods as' inducers sleep 'as midazolam, estazolam, nitrazepam, flunitrazepam, flurazepam, among others.The complete withdrawals' barrier wall', it is very difficult and desnecessário. Minha 'barrier wall', current is 10 mg of diazepam, early in the morning and 5 mg nitrazepam in the evening. Less than that, I think is very difficult. Sometimes, I empower diazepam dosing with 25 mg of promethazine; an antiallergic and sedative phenothiazine, which does not need receita. O same times with 40 or 80 mg propranolol; Beta-blocking agent, suitable for hypertension, however, proven to anxiolytic action, combat physical anxiety symptoms for a short period, if necessary. Now the interruption of sleep inducers, did not have any unpleasant reactions, unless the will miss, and chronic insomnia, 24 to 36 hours without sleep about."

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Halo Says:

Já fiz uso prolongado em altas e baixas dosagens prescrição 'benzodiazepina',várias dezenas de 'princípio-ativo',tanto ansiolíticos, como o diazepam, lorazepam, bromazepam, clonazepam, clordiazepóxido, e mais alguns, por períodos menores, como 'indutores do sono', como midazolam, estazolam, nitrazepam,flunitrazepam,flurazepam, entre outros.A retiradas completa 'barreira parede',é muito difícil e desnecessário.Minha 'barreira parede', atual é 10 mg de diazepam,logo pela manhã, e 5 mg de nitrazepam,à noite. Menos que isto,penso ser muito difícil. As vezes, potencializo a dosagem diazepam, com 25 mg de prometazina; um anti-alérgico fenotiazínico e sedativo,que não necessita de receita.O mesmo,as vezes com propanolol 40 ou 80 mg; agente Beta-Bloqueador, indicado para hipertensão arterial, no entanto, com comprovada ação ansiolítica, combater sintomas físicos ansiedade, por curto período, e se necessário. Já com a interrupção de indutores do sono, não tive nenhuma reação desagradável, a não ser o sentir a falta, e insônia crônica,24 a 36 horas, sem dormir aproximadamente.

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I have been taking prolonged use in high and low dosages' benzodiazepine 'prescription, several dozens of' active-principle ', both anxiolytics, such as diazepam, lorazepam, bromazepam, clonazepam, chlordiazepoxide, and some more, for shorter periods, as' inducers of sleep ', such as midazolam, estazolam, nitrazepam, flunitrazepam, flurazepam, among others. A complete' wall barrier 'withdrawals, is very difficult and unnecessary. My current' wall barrier 'is 10 mg diazepam, soon in the morning, and 5 mg of nitrazepam at night. Less than this, I think it's very difficult. At times, I potentiate the diazepam dosage with 25 mg of promethazine; a non-prescription sedative and phenothiazine anti-allergy. The same, sometimes with propanolol 40 or 80 mg; Beta-Blocker agent, indicated for high blood pressure, however, with proven anxiolytic action, combat physical symptoms, anxiety for short period, and if necessary. Already with the interruption of sleep inducers, I had no unpleasant reaction, other than feeling the lack, and chronic insomnia, 24 to 36 hours, without sleeping approximately.

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cheublawm Says:

Hi everyone and thanks for all the comments.
I decided to start this topic as a meeting place for people with similar backgrounds and issues to post messages based upon their personal experiences with the drugs and medications they have taken, rather than to get any scientific or academic data from doctors or health professionals who have learned everything from reading the main literature out there and providing answers based upon their 3rd hand text book knowledge acquired from text books and training courses etc.

This is because there is no better substitute from information based upon someones first hand direct experience, and although the answers can vary from person to person based upon their background, mental status etc, it is still useful to hear about peoples experiences. After all, many answers from medical professionals in the field can also be biased due to reasons of ignorance, inexperience or the profits they make from providing such services.

So keep writing about your personal experiences, but it would be useful to mention the country you reside in when writing your messages as this can help as each country has its own sets of rules upon the supply, availability and services available.

Keep on fighting and being positive whatever your situation.

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Jennifer Says:

I am in the exact same situation. I have to daily dose at the methadone clinic but having a very difficult time NOT taking xanax as I too am extremely nervous and have a very stressful life. the clinic I attend refuses to consider the option of taking xanax and I am being cut down 5 mg. each time I test positive. I am once again going back to pain management. At least now I have a better understanding of using narcotic medications and more respect for the doctors who are able to prescribe. I will be glad to get my xanax back and hope the pain dr will write me methadone too.

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Eddy Says:

We had always heard that Diazepam was stronger than H when it came to withdrawal. My Doctor put me on Klonopin when I told him I almost died getting off Xanax, and told me it is much easier to discontinue. I tried 2 pills, seemed to work better than lorazapam yet Xanax seems to control anxiety better. Diazepam seems to cause headaches for me these days. I also noticed that Valium & Ativan seem very strong w/o controlling the anxiety?

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cheublawm Says:

The cultural and legal attitudes to prescribe xanax vary from country to country.
I was living in Thailand when I first decided to register at a methadone clinic to detox from H. The doctor at this clinic also gave fortnightly prescriptions of both diazepam and xanax. A patient was not forced to detox and could continually maintain their doses. The downside was that every patient had to visit the clinic on a daily basis to take the methadone (70mg/day) on-site. My physical addiction to both diazepam (40mg/day) and xanax (4mg/day) over a long period while on this program.
Three years later I decided to return home to England. Worried about the transition I illegally took back a months supply of methadone, xanax and diazepam. I had a good understanding and long-term relationship with my GP however and he immediately prescribed me with methadone and diazepam while waiting for an appointment to be made with the local drugs team (which took 2 months).
However I was surpised to find out from my GP that xanax is not available on the NHS, and over time began to realise just how much xanax seems to be frowned upon by the NHS and related authorities, being a drug suitable for abuse, especially when linked with methadone. As a result my GP prescribed me with corresponding dose of diazepam (1mg xanax = 10mg diazepam).
I personally think that it is difficult to compare them both and although took the additional diazepam did suffer from xanax withdrawal for 2 weeks and over a longer period found that diazepam were not an effective replacement for xanax. I actually dislike diazepam as they slow down the whole body constantly and give a bad hangover in the morning. I also want to mention that I found the detox from diazepam a much worse experience than xanax in terms of the extent and duration of physical withdrawal symptons I suffered.

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cheublawm Says:

Sorry to here about the loss of your job.
I am almost 100% sure that tramadol hci is the sole ingredient and positive that there should be no trace of oxazepam or any other benzodiazepine present.
The only logic I can think of behind this issue is due to tramadol to be a kind of synthetic opiate so depending on how sophisticated the analysis was, it may show as a positive for other opiates including H. My clinic has a crude procedure where I give a ua sample every 14 days which measures for 2 drug groups being amphetamine based and opiate based drugs. Because I have taken tramadol myself in the past, the analysis was then positive for H and I had to explain about the tramadol use which they then took into consideration. Maybe you suffered a similar outcome along these lines? I would look into it further and then get a second opinion.
Good luck

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Jennifer Says:

i take methadone now after leaving a pain clinic. there is so much fright from the methadone clinic about xanax and i do understand why. I am not the type person to take more nerve meds than needed. I just cant live a good life being nervous, panicky and unable to socialize, even grocery shopping makes me nervous. when you were on methadone did you have to go to a clinic to daily dose? and did you receive the xanax from the same one who prescribed you the methadone?

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Ryan Says:
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Hi I need ur help do you know if there is oxazepam in tramadol sandoz 200 mg slow release as I have lost my job over it due to a recent test at work and use I for cronic pain after a car accident 4 yrs ago, hope you can help

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Eddy Says:

Wow, I'm sorry for pointing out the misspelling of a word. Xanax definitely dulls the Brain and I make my fair share of mistakes too!

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cheublawm Says:

Hi Eddy. You’re correct. I thought that I spell-checked my message but glad that you pointed out the error. This does raise an issue directly related to a negative effect of long-term benzodiazepine use. In my earlier years I inherited a sound intellect, and was lucky to have received an excellent education, allowing me to communicate with ease and clarity. Now having noticed my spelling mistakes, I decided to re-read the message that I posted above and found mistakes with my grammar, vocabulary, spelling and more. I had repeated myself in a couple of sentences and the entire content was written in a haphazard and disorderly style. Overall, my clarity has suffered and my ability to communicate well has diminished over the past decade since I have been taking benzodiazepines. I have noticed that my brain has progressively slowed down and my thought process has become more jumbled. It has also affected my memory and ability to recall events and the extent of my vocabulary has reduced as I forget words I used to know that make it harder to express myself accurately. I can only talk from my own personal experience but to conclude I definitely feel that taking this type of medication over a long period has slowed my brain down and I need to continually stimulate my mind with mental exercises to avoid further degradation.

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Eddy Says:

Did you mean: benzodiazepine? You spelled it wrong at least twice. I go to my Doctor for advice.

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