832 93 How Can You Tell If You Are Taking A Placebo Of The Medication You Used To Take

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My doctor and I had discussed my quitting taking Clonopin 0.5 mg. as I have taken for so long, so he told me he would submit a placebo at some time without telling me. Got my RX filled and keep sweating and getting headaches. Could this be from the placebo as the pill looks and has the same imprint as the original one I was taking. How can you tell?

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What kind of doctor would do that to you? That's crazy. You should be tapered off any medication like that. I would find a new doctor.

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If it has the same marking, then it is the same medication. Your doctor cannot manufacture and them have a pharmacy give you a fake pill, especially with the marking that is registered with the FDA as containing that medication. Doing such would be illegal.


And the other poster is correct, this type of medication must be tapered, after long-term use.

It is possible that your doctor just said that to try to encourage you to lessen your usage on your own.

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How are you doing now?

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is there any way to tell if my diazapam is a placebo im finding they are not working the same anymore i suffer with severe anxiety /panic attacks they still come in the same box as normal but they ve just stopped working

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A medication that I have been taking for a good while for anxiety quit having any effect , the medication says to take 1 but I have taken as much as 4 at once and it has no effect at all..

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I have taken 5mg. Hydrocodone a few times before.l hurt my leg recently , and my doc. Prescribed the same. This time its not helping at all. I think there placebos.how can tell the differnts

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I have been prescribed GTN 300microgram sublingual tablets(Martindale Pharmaceuticals Ltd) and have just noticed that there are no markings on these small concave uncoated tablets. Are they therefore a placebo ?

Any help would be appreciated. Thank you.

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A Pharmacy can't give you a medication and lie to you about what it is or what it contains. Even if you have a rx compounded, the pharmacy must give you the correct information about what it contains and how much.

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Can another pharmacist test the drug to see if it's the real thing?

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I have taken Valium for forty years from a psychiatrist. The last two months I severely noticed a drastic effect on how I feel. Dr. David Winston prescribed Valium for me and the mental health system interfered with this and told Dr. Winston That I was not to have these kind of medicines (Benzos). Dr. Winston more or less admitted that I was not getting the real thing because he said from now on I'd have to get these drugs from a psychiatrist. I am very sick, having seizures and extreme anxiety all the time-both physical and psychological anxiety. no. You cannot trust doctors. They are involved in big money from the drug companies and new drugs that sell the most. You cannot just come off Clonazepam abruptly. The mental health has no business in telling a doctor what I should be taking. This was no doctor. This was a nurse from the mental health. I haven't seen them since last September. I know it is illegal for any health professional to give out information without a patient's written consent. I stopped going to Dr. Winston and saw another doctor and it was the same thing. I paid $100.00 for my Valium and it was the same thing. I'm getting my money back-no matter what. I thought I would get better service if I paid for the medicine, but I didn't get any decent service. Tevo and Teva are the brands I am getting lately for Valium, as well as the Mylan company. The new doctor had a funny look on his face when I left the office. You see, this i9s no longer America that we live in. In the past, if you were unsatisfied with a doctor,all you had to do was to see another one and your problem would be solved. Not anymore. Nowadays when somebody complains about you taking a controlled substance too long or somebody who disagrees with a treatment they don't like al treatment they report the DEA or a social worker can put any information in a central database and no matter where you go the doctors, the druggists, and who knows, will have all the information on you-everywhere you go. If you don't feel like you're getting the right thing, confront him/her and possibly press criminal charges. This is against the law. I am planning to do the same. Thank you for reading this. Good luck.

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You can tell if it's a placebo by the taste. Just suck on the pill or chew the pills and see if the pills taste the same as before. I have been taking Valium Diazepam since 1976. Valium has a phenyl taste and numbs the mouth. A person can get a tolerance to Diazepam and drugs like it. The last three months my pills don't work or have any taste and I'm very agitated. Whether it's illegal or not doctors now prescribe dummy pills without telling you and if you tell your doctor this they'll tell you you are getting the real thing. Doctors are committing a crime and so is the government (DEA). The doctors and the government do as they please because people let them get away with it. They have no conscience and doctors are afraid of losing their licence for prescribing Valium like drugs too long. But this doesn't make it right to lie to the patient . If you took four pills without any effect you are taking plecebos. You all know that the doctors all stick together and it,s time that you guys try to find proof and sue the doctors as a common criminal. This is what I am going to do. I'm fed up with it.

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If a pharmacist fills a rx for a placebo the info on the bottle and in the drug info you're given has the placebo info.

If you're gotten a rx filled and the info on the bottle and in the drug info has the name of the med on it, for example. Valium/Diazepam then your Med is Valium/Diazepam. If you notice anything different it is because of the inactive ingredients and fillers that the manufacturer used. The inactive ingredients and fillers can change frequently.

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After taking the same medication for a long period of time our body creates a tolerance.you may want to speak to your Dr about increasing your dosage.

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I'm going through the same thing right now, but with xanax!!! Something is definitely not right. Happy I found someone who is going through what I am right now. I was also on oxycodones. No more. Something with this senerio ain't right!! I also have cancer. Yes, I hurt!! I'm sick of what I'm going through right now!! They all think we're druggies!! I'm pissed off!! I will get to the bottom of this!!!

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Yes . It does not have any markings you can be assured as to a placebo.

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Sorry for being ignorant but just what is an RX? .... and do we have them here in England? .... thanks

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olliebeek, Rx is short for prescription.

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I have taken Lorazapam ativan since July of last year and today I believe my doctor switched it to a placebo its not working to calm me like the other pills did.

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If I ask my Pharmacist if my medication is a placebo, do they have to answer me honestly or just refuse to give me a reply?

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Ruby, your medication is what is says on the bottle that it is. A pharmacy or pharmacist can't
give you a drug and tell you it is one thing and charge you for it and then it only be a placebo because that is against the law. Look on the prescription bottle, your prescriptions are what they say they are on your prescription bottle. If you aren't getting the effects you think you should be gettiing from a prescriptions, you need to discus it with your dr.

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Hydo 5s are about the same as just taking Tylenol.... And if they're the 5/500 that's even worse cuz ur taken to much Tylenol... Over time it builds tolerance in the body and the same medicine might not do the same thing. Depending on how bad the injury is a hydro 5 might not break through the pain.

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Re: Fedup (# 13) Expand Referenced Message

I hope that you have followed up and resolved these issues. First of all, Id like to say that if you are a cancer patient you should be able to get meds but if you are having a hard time because you have been on it for a long time, then you have to get your MDs to refer you to a pain clinic.

The most important thing is your relationship with your physician. I know they are difficult, but we have to remember that there are many issues that they face. Doctors are there to help patients, but some of them, like the rest of us, dont always have the best bedside manners. We are all human.

Find a physician that you feel you can trust, if you cant trust him or her, just be clear about your fears, and just ask them to be honest. Don’t blame them for doing things such as prescribing medications you think are placebos, simply because you are having different responses to medications at different time.

There are poor doctors out there. I live in Montreal now and the healthcare system here is a nightmare. I went to the doctors the other day and the MD started asking me intake notes, asking me questions he already has. I noticed he didnt have my folder, and then he couldnt give me the results of my blood tests, and I had been waiting six months for those results! In any case, I was upset, but I didn’t say anything. If I complained, it would have appeared as though I was the one that was wrong, when clearly, he had messed up, or a secretary had, or someone.

Finding an MD that you can trust is very important. IF you are honest and find that your relationship with your physician has simply broken and cannot in any way be fixed, then ask him or her to refer you. IF the use of placebos is involved, then ask him or her if he will promise you that he/she will no longer prescribe them. If they cannot do that, then you probably should go somewhere else.

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Re: Fedup (# 13) Expand Referenced Message

Unfortunately some addicts and some crack pot doctors have made it difficult for legit patients to receive help. Guns are killing more people than pills. But let’s not address that. Am 63. Never been on drugs. Have a 91 year old Dad living with me. But do you think they’ll give you anything for stress ? No way. So I’ve since had a heart attack that was stress related. But you government people keep catering to the low lifes that have always made it bad for the legit people in life that need help.

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Re: Jl (# 52) Expand Referenced Message

I post the facts and laws because they provide answers.

It is illegal for a pharmacy to dispense a drug with something different that what is on the prescription container the patient received when they got their prescription filled.

When a child or someone else overdoses on a medication. The ER has to know what the substance is to try and prevent injury or death. Providing the wrong treatment can be dangerous or deadly. If a patient is treated for an over dose and the medication is a placebo. It could be deadly to the patient. That is one of the reasons the name and dosage of the drug dispensed has to be accurate and on the container it came in from the pharmacy.

If a patient could not read what their doctor wrote their prescription for. They can look on the label of the contained it was dispensed in from the pharmacy. If they still have doubts. They can google the imprint. If they still have doubts. They need to consider seeing a psychiatrist.

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Re: tinker bell (# 3) Expand Referenced Message

I AM HAVING THE SAME PROBLEM WITH MY VALIUM. iT SEEMS LIKE ITS A PLACEBO.BECAUSE ITS NOT WORKING OR HELPING MY ANXIETY AT ALL. wHAT CAN I DO?

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You know when you can tell when the government is losing..when you have one name in group conversation that consistently quotes law..and has been at the beginning..they truly believe we're all stupid.

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Re: BL (# 24) Expand Referenced Message

BL it seems you have all the law abiding answers..maybe your trolling for the corrupt medical industrial complex

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TEVA diazepam is completely inafective. I question the efficacy of this drug! After many years on diazepam, I just had my Rx filled with TEVA brand. 10mg...nothing, then took 20mg...nothing but a headache. Had some other generic diazepam and it worked like it should. This is not the first complaint of TEVA pharmaceuticals. I’ve heard of and read about SIMILAR experiences with this company. As a healthcare provider, the negative reviews of their products are CORRECT.

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Re: oldhipichk (# 48) Expand Referenced Message

Look on your prescription bottle. Under Federal Law the name of the medication in the bottle has to be on the label.

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I am sure my doctor prescribed a placebo in place of my morphine sulfate ir. I also get er's, so thank goodness I haven't really suffered the drug sickness so bad as if they dropped me completely. However, the pain has been just excruciating. Even my husband asked if I thought they wrote me a sugar pill, because I have just been staying in bed, on the couch, or sitting in 1 place in my wheelchair, and not productive at all. I'm a crafter, and am always doing some kind of project but its taken all my energy just to live in my skin!

I almost always have a few of my meds left, at the end of each month, and I take the pill bottles and throw them in the hall tree seat. Well today, after 5 weeks of being miserable, I thought, I'm going to try to take one of my old meds I had left. Complete peace. And I finished a project I have been working on. So those pills, if they were the same, why would the old ones work and not the newest ones?!! I can get thru the next 2 weeks, (hopefully!!) and hopefully, my tolerance will be lowered and my meds will work even better than before. But if the next scripts are just more of the same, then I def need to find a new doctor! Oh, and my pills are just plain white little pills, the usual writing isn't on them. There is usually a line on 1 side, and some numbers on the other. I compared to my old ones.

Also, when I saw my doctor almost 2 months ago, they also dropped my pills by 30 pills a month. So when I saw them the other day, I explained that I was sure it was the doc who lowered my meds after my id doc told them I wasnt healthy enough to risk an infection by getting their inj's., (that baylor neurosurgeons said would do me absolutely no good, anyways!), but it was the pa who handed them to me, and I thought I could trust the medical professionals I trust to take care of me, and didnt feel like I needed to study my scripts, or count my meds. And I mean, surely, if they were changing my meds, they would have told me this. But not a peep was mentioned. Luckily I do not take as many as they prescribe, or id of run out of the ir's, a week early! After being completely puzzled at where my medicine went, I finally figured out they dropped 30 pills a month! On my own. I felt like that was terribly unethical, but what can we really do? If we make too much noise, they will cut us off completely. So its like I told them... Since I am at their mercy as to what meds I get each month, whether its enough to be productive, or not, it is, what it is, and I can do nothing about it. So I would appreciate the honesty, at the very least!!! I also told the entire office that I never ever wanted to see that pa again, and found out that my name was put on a list of many others who also refused to see her!! If it gets too bad, I will just have to come up with an alternate plan of attack!!

Best of luck to everyone. I know that, if you are reading this, on this site, then you are probably feeling as crappy as I am, and searching for anything you can do to make it stop. My prayers will go to all who read this, that you find peace, and are able to live in your skin without suffering so badly.

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The sweating and headaches are probably from benzo withdrawal, which would make perfect sense if you were given a placebo, especially considering your long term use.

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