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i need to know what these pills are i have; my friend was supposed to get me suboxone because i was going threw opiate withdrawl last night and he gave me two small white, round pills with a 54 and under the 54 is a 411 and the other side is just plane with no scores or anything. what is this? please somebody help me; i dont want to take something i dont know what it is.

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Yah I'm an RN (registered nurse and CMA) and can confirm that what ur friend gave u is IMHO better then suboxone since it does not have the naloxone in it u can use it quicker b4 u start kicking if ur coming dwn and going through w/drawls since theres little to no chance of getting sick. This is a Generic 8mg and is the strongest subutex they currently make and prob. ever will so be carfull and start w/ 2mg's or half 4mgs and see how u feel? If ur ok, the half life is a long time! so u could use the rest of the Tex later when u need it. I used to shoot these and there very strong and since there's nothing but Bupe inside them, u can't get sick and its a lota fun for a day or two but tolerance gets sky high really quick cause one dose can last for 70hr's max! STRONG S*** YO!

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Buprinex - buprinorphene. suboxone buprinorphen/nazloxone. Nalaxone used to stop you from abusing the medication. IT has very low bio so it is not really absorbed when taken under the tongue. Buprinorphene sits on the same receptor that other opiates sit on. No other narcotic is strong enough to knock it out of there. The BEST way to take buprinorphene? dry out your mouth. Be sure not to eat or drink anything 30 min prior and after taking it. If pill (buprines (buprinorphene WITHOUT the naloxone) Dry out mouth, crush ONE pill between your FRONT teeth and move it all around your mouth coating every part (except teeth) like you are painting the inside of your mouth with it. It is designed to be absorbed through mucus membranes. Do not swallow for as long as you can. residual amounts will still be in your mouth so don't eat or drink for 15- 30 min after. You will find that taking the medication in this way will cause you to absorb far more of the chemical then letting it sit under your tongue. The key is surface area and duration. if you put it under your tongue - you will swallow much more of it then gets absorbed. Try it! I found this out when switching to generic as generic does not absorb nearly as well and after taking 8 mgs... I found myself sick 12 hours later.

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NOTE** Upon taking subutex 1 day after methadone- i got sick as hell... the dr increased the dose and increased it again @ the office and eventualy..within 5 hrs.. i got up to a dose more effective then the 40mg of methadone I was on.Honestly I am not sure if the naloxone will do anything other than stop you from abusing the suboxone. But I know for sure that buprinorphene is strong enough to knock meth right off the receptor and make you sick if you have a habit. I have heard many of my frineds go through the same thing. They took ether suboxone OR just plain buprinorphene and got sick within 20 min.

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Its subutex which is basically the same as a suboxone witch is for wat ur goin threw

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Subutex is not generic for suboxone. it is a whole different drug. it is suboxone without the naloxone.

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Why would you take pills from ANYONE other then Dr.or pharmacy perscribed????!!!! This is for withdrawls yes but see a licensed saboxone Dr.before TAKING med its NOTHING to take off the streets to ruin the rest.of us getting clean the correct way thru a Dr.

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I want to set the record straight I've been on suboxone for 2 years now and yes you can abuse it. the reason why people IV suboxone into their vein it doesn't make you high but it just kicks in a lot faster, also you can do the same thing with subutex as well and they have the same effect as suboxone so for all you people out there that think subutex is gonna make you feel higher I hate to say this but you're wrong

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Hate to tell you this but here it is. The pill 54 411 is just bupenorphine. It is a generic pill. The trade name is Subutex, not Suboxone. Suboxone has naloxone in it which keeps you from IV'ing it. Get your things straight before you start with all the exclamation!!!!! Points!!!!

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Wait, I have my hands on a few of these and I will end up banging maybe like 2-3mg. I've never banged a pill before, but have banged a few other substances.. Including what I believe is more dangerous than h.. Meth. Anyways.. If anyone can give me an answer.. I have clean syringes.. Cotton.. Can anyone tell me the safest way to do this.. Thank you in advance.

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This is more or less the way I do expect thrown in a xanex or 6 or the same duration of time for sleep and anxt.

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Listen if you people think that subutex or suboxone has narcain in it then your allready to high! The blocker is called naloxone which is in suboxone unlike subutex. Narcain is the shot the ER techs give to people whom have overdosed. ( to save your life! Your welcome) most people who are users of both opiates and subs prefer the subutex because it doesn't contain the narcain in it which is an opiate blocker! Do your homework before you post misleading info.

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if u were able to post this message wouldnt it have been just as easy to look it up. u can find out all the info ud like on it

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Just to let you know, subutex is NOT generic for suboxone. Suboxone and Subutex have one ingredient in commom (bupenorphine), otherwise, they are 2 completely different medicines. Suboxone also contains Naloxone which is an opioid antagonist. It fills up the opiate receptors in your brain and tricks them into thinking they can't receive anymore opiates, therefore, if you take an opiate after taking Suboxone you will not feel the opiate. In my area, Subutex is usually only given to chronic pain patients and Suboxone is given to recovering addicts. I am a recovering addict myself and started on Suboxone first, I quickly found out I was highly allergic to Naloxone. My doctor agreed to try me on Subutex and it worked. I have not seen or ingested an opiate for over 5 years and I have no desire to! My only complaint about the new M924 generic subutex is they taste horrible!

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It is what they give pregnant women.

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Yea... it doesn't have the Narcan in it.. Haha! DUH

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Dude u must not be an opiate taker it takes everyone and me around 2 in a half weeks at lest to get all the way threw detox and then u still ain't better

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They are Mathodone pills they are 54 and one side 411 as far as I know the are Mathodone or even percoset or even vicadin 5 or 10 Mills just Google the inmprints on your pills and it should tell you what it really id

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Re: Herbie the Barber (# 17) Expand Referenced Message

Can you tell me what these taste like? I'm used to the suboxen tablets with an orange flavor, these seem to taste like, an actual pill, bitter if that makes sense.
Thank you for sharing!

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