White Pill With 54 411

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This is generic subutex, not suboxone, which means that it contains only buprenorphine. Suboxone has naloxone as well to discourage patients from abusing the pill. The exclusive patent rights for the drug expired in Oct. of '09.

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Thank you for providing this information, that's what many places are identifying it as, 8mgs of Buprenorphine, the generic for Subutex, but it is new and not listed in any of the databases, yet.

Along with treating narcotic addiction, it can also be used to treat cases of severe, chronic pain.

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I love this drug. I'm off oxy now for 10 months and I have subs to thank for it ! I miss the euphoric feeling but I also don't miss spending 350 a day. God bless subutex !

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I was a heroin addict for two years. Smoking 1 to 2 grams a day. I tried to quit 4 times. Cold turkery (PURE MISERY HORRIFIC) three on suboxone. U CANT COMPARE SUBOXONE TO SUBUTEX. I have been clean for only four months. Why? Because Subutex relives the craving and the withdrawl is two days of just feeling sick and on day 3 I felt normal to go on with my day. SUBUTEX is a miracle drug that few oxy nor co or heroin addicts have tried. If u have a problem look up on internet for subutex perscriptions in ur area.

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Why do you make the claim that you can't compare suboxone and subutex? Of course you can. I use both and don't really have a preference. I snort them and I like the taste of the plain subutex better than that Orange taste. An 8 mg suboxone is almost the same as an 8 mg subutex, the addition of the Naloxone to the buprenorphine is all that makes suboxone different than subutex. Either way ur still getting the same drug. It's similar to comparing percocet to oxycontin. Oxycodone being the active opiate in both. A damn percocet is mostly tylenol. Why they put tylenol with Oxycodone I'll never understand but an oxycontin is Oxycodone with whatever that waxy sh** is. It's only purpose is to create a time release effect. The pill merely requires a crack in it and the time release is gone. I have always pictured it like a big jawbreaker with the different rings or layers if u where to envision a cross section of one. A layer of Oxycodone that is absorbed then a layer of the wax stuff that ur stomach acids take a while to get through but then u hit another layer of Oxycodone and the process just continues that way so an 80 mg OC is releasing small amounts of Oxycodone every little while. All one must do is break the pill and u can then get all 80mg in u at once. Exactly the same as taking 8 10mg percs. It's the same exact drug, just put into pill form and mixed with s***. I don't know if that's how an OC actually works but it makes sense. Please correct me if I'm wrong. Suboxone helped me to quit heroin just like it did for Rob. I was using cocaine with the heroin, mixing the two and shooting up (injecting intravenously) "speedball" for anybody who doesn't know that. I quit cold turkey, went thru my first day and night of Hell and I decided to take some suboxone. I broke a piece off, maybe 1/4 or 2mg worth and just ate it actually. It helped me to be able to sleep that second night and I woke up on third day feeling fine. I didn't use any more suboxone and had no withdrawl symptoms. I was clean just like that. Really weird but great. I of course f***ed up and broke my back in a car wreck. Truck to be specific. U was driving drunk and went off the road, flippwd and rolled 7 or 8 times, based on witness reports. I was knocked out but woke up about 20 mins after the wreck. Managed to get out if the mangled vehicle with no assistance from any bystanders just as the cops and ambulances showed up. I'm lucky to even be alive. I bet if I could repeat it 100 times I'd be killed every time. The way the roof smashed in on my head is probably what saved my life because it pinned me against my seat and I wasn't wearing a seat belt. Anyways I did get all cut up as f**k from glass and broke my back which hurts very bad. I started getting prescribed all the good sh** and u abused the pills and it eventually led back to shooting up coke and heroin. Quit again, cold turkey and no suboxone. Misery I would only wish upon my worst enemies. I got clean tho. After several months I started f***ing around with pills again. It led right back to heroin again but I used heroin 1 time and knew I didn't want to go down that road yet again so I sought help at the local methadone clinic, did that dir almost 2 years but tapered off and was finally clean again but only for a few days. I started using suboxone and have been using it ever since. Subutex as well. It's obviously a problem but its cheap and works awesome and I haven't touched heroin or any other opiates of any kind in a year and a half now. It is still an issue that I must deal with at some point but I don't think I would have stayed off the heroin if it wasn't for suboxone/subutex. I think it is a great drug and can be used in several ways. Help for addicts of course but even for treating chronic pain like I have in my back. A very good drug to treat pain in addicts too in my opinion. Good luck everybody, I'm going to work now. I hope this long ass message can be useful to somebody out there.

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Trash thx.for your biography on your drug life

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Haha my thoughts exactly. He may be snorting a few too many of those suckers..and maybe adding a little speed in the mix? just joking..

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just to let the suboxone sniffer suboxone is a sublingal drug which means it is ment to be dissolved under your tounge not in your nose bro sorry to bust your bubble but i have tried along with everyone else who was addicted to sniffing pain killers and many will agree if you actually have a physical dependency to more than 5 mg of percocet and actually had physical withdrawl symptoms that sniffing it works as good as sniffing dirt if you wanna stop doing drugs why dont you take your meds like the doctor ordered no doc tells you to sniff anything especially a sublingle drug hahahaha and i thought i was a f***ing addict.........

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Thank you Trash,
I actually enjoyed reading your bio. Sending out Love to everyone. Peace
Swanna

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Some people should just stay on drugs...hahaha

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i have been doing pills for 7 years an never thought i was ever going to get off of em but wen my girl told me we were having a baby i new i had to stop i started taking subutex an i couldnt belive how fine i felt i use to not be able to go even a day with out doing a opana now i havent done a pill in 2 months subutex is the s*** forreal anyone whos trying to quit tell your doctor to put u on it u will never touch anything again

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Nuttins better than a speedball and a fast crotch rocket! But death is nocking so take the suboxen!

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When I was 23 years old I started abusing pills. At that time I had a lil girl that wasn't even a year old. Her dad and I would buy pills everyday. We was using OxyContin everyday all day. We was snorting them. It lead to him smoking coke. Another year went by and we were badly addicted. I got pregnant with my second lil girl. I stopped for a lil while. But as soon as I gave birth to her I went back down the same road. I ended up leaving my babies daddy for a man that I married. He sold pills so I was set. I had to give my kids to my mother because I was putting drugs before them. I was shooting all the pills I could get ahold of. I was shooting Oxy all the time. I ended up pregnant again by my husband. But he left me because of another woman. So there I was, stuck and pregnant. That caused me to do a lot more pills. Sad I know. I didn't deserve to have another child. My the good Lord above stopped me in a quick way. When I was 8 months pregnant I had a sever heart attack. I was in the hospital for a few weeks so they. Oils keep an eye on my unborn child. Finally they let me out. Two weeks later I was in Ohio with my grandmother, because she was in the hospital. I was there for 4 days then I went in labor. When the checked my heart they made me have a c-section. Then 4 days later I had to have my first open heart. I was in the hospital for two months and so was my son. Me shooting the oxys destroyed my heart valves. I got to take my son home finally. I was home for three months then had to have open heart again because the valve failed. I was put back in the hospital and had another open heart. They put a titanium heart valve in. But the by pass machine caused the blood to go into my muscles. They had to cut my leg from knee to my foot. To get to the point I was in the hospital for a year straight over my leg. When I went home I couldn't walk and had no control over my leg. When I finally got to where I could walk a lil I was doing great. But my dumb ASS started pills again. I ended up having a 3rd open heart. I was there only a week when I came home I stayed away from everybody that done pills. I started taking subs and have been clean over a year now. My first and second open heart happened when I was 27 and the last one was when I was 30. I'm 32 now and I am perfectly healthy. I've been doing so good and taking care of my children. I always wondered why I was left on this earth and then this past November my lil girls daddy got killed at work from a dozer accident. Then I realized that I was left her to take care of my girls cause they lost their daddy and I had to be mommy and daddy for my beautiful girls. I'm really sorry it took this long but this is the FIRST time I've ever told the whole story to anyone. I really do hope that my story helps someone. You can become clean and live a normal life. God has been really good to me.

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Suboxone and Subutex have been miracles for many, many people; a resolution to a horrible problem, long over due. I wish you people that abuse these meds would stop, or you're going to end up causing the Gestapo to take the Buprenorphine solution away from those of us who are really trying to manage our problem rather than chasing the buzz, whether it be chronic pain or physical addiction.

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I also have had a vicoden addiction for 3 years spending 200$ a day. And suboxone is a miricle for me. I signed ip 3 times for treatment then chickened out not believing this could possibly work. But did instantly. Thank you whom ever invented it!!

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This generic to the B/8 or B/2 has been around for yrs. as I have been getting them off friends when I wanna inj. since the subs really cant be injected. I inj. an 8mg suboxone once and did not go into a crazy withdrawl, nor feel sick at all, the medication just did not provide anything painwise and did not hit any receptors in my brain. So its possible to do it and not get sick persay, but its justa waste of a pill thats all! anyways the Generic Stex has been around for a while now and it is a deterent since it does not get the user high or any of the EPHORIA thats so commonly related to the opiod high! I know in the UK u can just go into a market and buy the Tamgesic .2MG OR .3MG OTC w/o any questions but since I use 16-20mgs suboxone EDay and when I inj. subutex I shoot at least 2-3mg's or more at one dose I dont think it would get me that high or high at all if I only did a few tamgesics. Think about it, I would have to shoot 10 .2mg T's to equal just 2mgs of subutex! and 40 .2mgs to just equal one 8mg Subutex pill that can be prescribed in doses of up to 32mg's per day!!! The average price per S-tex on the street is between 20-50 bucks/USD's per tab so if u have a RX ur lucky as hell as u not only can use plenty to get by w/o using, but also make a few bills on the side!!! not bad, but if ur cought ur F***ed since u can be charged w/ pratising medicine w/o a licence and spend yrs. in prison so be cafefull if thats what ur doing? anyways good story and stay up! CAB-

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@mike: actually, no- YOU'RE dumb. Notice the spelling. It's always the idiots who cant spell first grade words who accuse people of being stupid, hiding behind their computers on the Internet. Time to take an honest look at yourself and realize you're the stupid one.

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Actually suboxone comes in pill form too, its just very hard to get now days. I use to buy them on the streets and I prefer them over the strips any day......

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Suboxone truly is a miracle. I was addicted to pain pills for 3 1/2 years. Started because I had really bad neck and upper back problems and my doctor wouldn't take me seriously, said I was too young to worry about that... I had been in a car accident. I tried going to a chiropractor but it made it worse and I couldn't afford it. Started getting pain pills off the streets...... Quickly became addicted and spending entirely too much money! Tried to quit several times but couldn't bare the pain. Finally, someone told me about suboxone. I was very skeptical, didn't believe it would work. Tried it for the 1st time, and I couldn't believe how GREAT I felt. It wasn't a 'high' feeling. I didn't feel disgusting like I was an addict.... I just felt NORMAL!! It helped my pain but didn't make me 'messed up'. I love it, I finally feel normal again and I'm just thankful to be away from pain pills forever! :)

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This is the dumbest thing I've ever read. That in no way needed to be this long.

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Actually, what YOU said is the dumbest thing any of us has read. Save your worthless comments for people on your subintelligence level.

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I’m going to revive this thread because people need to see this more. I’ve been an addict since I was 16. I am now 32 years old. So half my life I have spent as an addict. I did try and use subutex and suboxone to “cure” my addiction. Every time I became addicted to the subs. I started on methamphetamine then shortly after I started abusing heroin. Anything I could get in to a needle. I tried quitting basically a year after I started. I finally managed to quit when my kids got taken after my wife overdosed and died.

Anyways, cold turkey ended up working the best. I went through some crazy withdrawals and contemplated suicide. I always failed the 100’s of times I quit when I tried using subs or kratom. Now if I ever find myself in pain and don’t want to take an opiate then I take a subutex. It’s kept me from relapsing for 9 years. It has its place and it works for a lot of people! But you will withdraw from it when you decide to quit.

Kratom works well too and it takes wayyyy longer to withdraw from it. About 8 months taking it everyday twice a day and 20-30 750mg capsules at a time. It can kill you if you mix it with other drugs but if taken alone you can take a lot at a time. I’ve thoroughly tested and logged the results over a period of 4 years. I am off it now because of a very strict dose of subutex. Taken for 6 days and weening down a milligram a day.

The difference between suboxone and subutex is suboxone has naloxone in it. It is an opiate blocker and the subutex has no blocker. The blocker can make you feel dirty and gross. But the subutex feels more clean. Anyways I hope this thread helps people. More people need to know of this. It is so much easier to get now at least prescribed. But there is a nation wide shortage at the moment. I hope you all are still doing good and have great lives, you deserve it! I am so proud of you all for even taking the first step and admitting you have a problem. That is the start of a brighter future. My worst day clean is better then my best day high.

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Re: trash (# 4) Expand Referenced Message

Anyone who's ever taken a subutex and suboxone knows dam well they're nothing alike. You can claim they're the same aside from the naloxone but there's no way. I've been taking them for chronic pain for ten years since I've been out of the military and there's a reason I get subutex and not suboxone. Suboxone is the devil, and Subutex are a life-saving miracle.

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It's nothing to mock...This person obviously needs prayer and good vibes...My best friend abused every painkiller including sublingual Subutex and she is 100% clean off everything and has about 5 years clean now...There is hope for any addict and how dare you people laugh at this person? Do you think that's gonna help? No I don't think so...It's only because miserable, unhappy people like to make jokes to compare and justify your own addiction saying you're not as bad of an addict. That may be true but please were all struggling in some way shape or form....I don't agree with the mockery responses about this person abusing pills... Uncalled for, why don't we give a message of hope instead? Thanks and all of you be well...I will pray for everyone including myself tonight before bed....May your higher power be with you...

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Re: trash (# 4) Expand Referenced Message

Your long message, I read all of it, has given me a better insight of what to expect. I've gained resourceful information. Thank you & good luck

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Reply to accident and broke your back: Be careful with the suboxone cause it is addictive too. I was taking it too for three years and once I though I was good to go. I started withdrawing (messing with my bones). Long story short. I went back to pills for 3 weeks and then back to suboxone ONLY took 1-8mg and off the pill too. It's been 5days with out anything. Hopefully it's over. I lived past 7years pills and suboxone. I feel ok totally not my old self put am gonna press on

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Don't be a hater, not everyone comes along at the same rate, look at the long comment as just one step on the road to recovery, so stop being so negative, work on that, not other peoples issues. I don't like bullies.

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Opana is my DOC.... For almost 3 years I've been taking em. I hate em. Hate the sickness. It's some bad evil s***! But yea- hustling up something everyday. And hell it gets dry! Can't find a thing. Too Many ppl in wilkes co. doing em. I don't recommend doing them. U think u know dope sick? S*** WD from taking opana everyday. Subs are lifesavers. If u can get em. Dr's around here are a**holes w a God complex. They don't listen to u- just ur insurance company. I'm trying right this very now to get off opana and I've got 1 54/411 and I'm taking a quarter at a time. Prolly every 6-8 hours. I'm sticking em- but not all 4. Just first 2. My life is tough- I'm 43 with a 14 y/o girl & 7 y/o boy. 18 y/o son died in 2010. Tough year-lost 4 and only men in the family. Him- my cousin who is age 30 (grew up with me like a brah) and 2 close friends- step dad at Thanksgiving. Shoo- I got bad. Just past 2 years... and I want off! Hate/Love pandas!! Ahhhhaaahhhaaaa! It's hell!

But yeah- subs help. They work. Peace Love and chicken grease.

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That was amazing I been down ur road almost to a tee. Ty for sharing and I understand ur pain I too had a severve car accident and was on speed balls zanie bars and I got hit broken bones all over now my back been broken two yrs I will not go back to dope. Nope I refuse

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What makes u think u can insult people for no reason, have some compassion and let people live their lives , sometimes people have to go through things to realize who they really are and what they need to do. Everyone has their own journey, just because it's not the same as yours doesn't mean it's wrong...

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That's awesome, this should give people hope, knowing there is a way out of the misery, just don't ever give up! it's never too late to get clean as long as you put your mind to it. Thank u for sharing your story.

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