What Exactly Does Suboxone Do? Is It Addicitive? (Page 6)

i have a friend who desperately wants to get off of methadone and pain pills. will suboxone work? is it addicitive too? if someone can please help me that would be great! also is it very expensive, that's what i've heard.

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I have been trying to get on subs for 2 years now and have been an opiate addict for the past 8 years. I'm only 25 and unfortuetly live in Vermont where there is no suboxone/methadone programs you can get in to without attending rehab for a two week minimum...... I have an apartment and a son.. I simply cannot leave for two weeks making my son unattended and defiantly would not be able to afford my rent.... I feel so stuck! It's almost hopeless for me just thinking about it makes me depressed.... I wanna be clean for my son yet at the same time if I quit cold turkey I really think i would die with out suboxone/methadone. Anyone with imformation or suggestions ide greatly appreciate an email! Thanks guys!

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Dear Doomed, I have just read several posts from you and I have to say(bluntly) one minute your miserable,withdrawling bla bla the next your taking 20 7.5mg vicodins,the next you wanna trade subs for oxy,the next you have a jar filled with 30 oxys. Dude,whats your deal? listen i was an addict for many yrs, then god punished me and struck me with SEVERE chronic fibrmyalgia,nerve damage,bulging discs,arthritus etc.., you name it, so NOW i have no choice but to depend on narcotic pain meds.although i have taken oxys a few x and let me tell you NOT good. the, oxys are worse than heroin i say stay far away from any kind of oxy ata ll costs my best friend is currently detoxing from a very severe oxy addiction for 3yrs everyday and she snorted them.i finally gave her an ultimatum and also i think the fact that she s a mothe rof 2 beaytiful kids she just started suboxone films. anyway back to doomed and his very bi-polar posts dude it crazy obvious that your jacked up when your writing these posts i asss=ume your bored,lonely and hey let face it pain med euphoria makes ppl wanna smoke cigs,and write letters right,right? but i just wanted u to know i can tell just by reading your posts. good luck and flush them darn oxys no good id rather you snorted a bag o dope for heavens sake PEACE OUT

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hey people. i have a uestion for anyone that can answer, and with all due respect please only reply if you genuinally have knowledge on the subject please i am not interetsed in your uncles cousins best friend knew a guy that took suboxone ok please than you ok here my Q: i know that suboxone is infact a narcotic, but compared to lets say methadone how similar are they. as far as potency,how long it lasts , etc.., and why is suboxone found to be to acceptable to help ppl with opiod pain med addiction since it itself IS after all a opiod pain med? anyone please my very best friend of 26 yrs has just started suboxone films as of 2 dayts ago i wanna be a good support forb her so the more i known about this the better.she has been withdrawling off oxy and just started the subs yesterday so she feels like s*** according to her i havnt heard frpom her yet so id appreciate anyone help - thank you and god bless

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ARE U STILL CLEAN

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Thank you! I was so scared. I thought the label thing was true. I was given Oxy's and morphine for a very bad knee injury/surgery and thought I could just stop taking everything... Lord was I wrong. I ended up in the hospital and sick as I have ever been. Long story short, I was put on Tramadol which I was told was not as bad. Lies! I have been now trying to get off and it has been so hard. My doc wants to try Suboxone to see if that will help. I dont want to be high. I just want to be normal. I am upset because I ended up following my docs orders and screwing myself. I have the desire to get off but the pain and sickness that comes with it... well that is something I never understood. My ex died due to the struggle he had with heroin. I never understood what was so hard. Now I do and I am thankful that you cleared up this info for me. I was getting ready to say never mind. I have four kids and I dont want to be labeled... it is not fair to them. So for anyone reading this... it is not easy... so please dont judge people. These drugs are truely hell on earth and anyone can be in my situation. Good luck to you all!

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tapper- i went all the way to 4 8mg for 6 yrs. Lots of wasted money and feel its a scam in some ways that a clinic won't help you get clean. They want their 250 per month. Taper this way i'm don to 1/2 pill. I went like this 4 -8mg pils day one then 3.75 day two 4 day 3 3.75 day 5 3.75 day 6 and 1 week on 3.75 no ill feeling. Then 3.75 day one and 3.50 day two and 3.75 day 3 3.5 day 4 and on and on. Pretty much did this without any issues. Now i'm trying to get to .25 of the pill. Not easy but you can do it.

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Pat... Why dont u shut up and just give ur exp. And quit trying to sue everyone. U sound like a real asswipe

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I have some knowledge since I've been on Methadone and Sub. I felt high om Meth and I feel high on sub. But it's a high I do not like. I do not like nodding. Yet when I go yo bed I can not sleep. I've been on sub about 21/2 weeks. I take 1 film 2x a day. It's too much but when I've cut back I've been uncomfortable. But I have only had one in the last 14 hours and I'm going to try and stretch the time out farther for the next one. I can not stand being sleepy and foggy.

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ive abused drugs for over 20 years and i want to stop so i got some suboxone and took half a 8mg strip i felt ok for a couple hours then i started to get really sick and sweaty and its like its sending me into a massive withdraw idk what to do or why its doin this to me can anyone help

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Phoenix, i'm sorry nobody answered post until now but what probably happened was you didn't wait until you were in early withdrawal to take your suboxone. if you don't wait long enough, it will push the opiates you have on the recepters in your in brain that make you you high right off, sending you into withdrawal. this is why you probrably got sick. and since no one answered your post you might have gotten high again, getting back on the train we all know leads to our destruction. i hope you found help somewhere else. if not feel free to reply to my post. i have a friend who is a heavy iv user of dilaudid, oxycodone and fentanyl. when she runs out of her scripts she uses suboxone. i realize this in no way getting clean but she is a quadriplegic confined to wheelchair with real pain issues. and yes, she SHOULD be taking her meds orally as prescribed but once she tried that needle it's been a battle ever since. please respond and let me know how you doing.

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Peg, first, methadone and suboxone are completely differently medications. methadone is a class II narcotic used medically for pain and in clinics it's the lower grade lesser quality controlled version of the same narcotic. it is every bit as strong as morphine and gives you the same euphoric high. suboxone, on the other hand, is a combination of two medications. one IS an opiate but it lacks the strong euphoria of other narcotics. the other medication blocks opiates from the recepters in the brain. so you get just enough opiate to keep from withdrawing and to keep your cravings down. but if you were to use drugs after taking it, you would go into withdrawal the moment you came down. some people claim to feel so good and NORMALafter taking suboxone it's as if they never took any other drugs. the important part thing is making the right decision in the morning before you would normally take your first fix. you should be at least 10 hours clean before taking the first prescribed dose of suboxone. the effects and duration depend on the dose strenght and frequency which should be monitored by a doctor. however, if you're like me and can't go through a doc, you'll just have to experiment to see how the smallest dose possible works because it is expensive and i'm a quadriplegic on a fixed income and buy mine on the street. if you have anymore questions, this site explains in details both meds. secondly, how 'bout taking easy on the addicts on site? some aren't as close to recovery as you obviously think you are. thanks. i'm just an addict named lori ann.

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Im an perk 10 abuser. I was 24hours clean today then I couldn't take the pain anymore. I went and got 3 unlike my usual 12-13 a day. And I still feel like im dieing im trying to get in a clinic for susboxin. I just wonder am I gonna be ok takeing it with my 2 yearold at home? Thanks:)

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Whatever bob, they very rarely give this to non addicts, its ok

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PHN: You Rock! After reading the first COUPLE of threads I scrolled right to the end to yours'. Way to give it to em! You're right on many points. I wasn't even going to post but after reading what you had to say I find it in me to do so....I AM one of few that has successfully kicked methadone, my drug of choice after going from A to Z. It was not pretty but I would still recommend it as a treatment plan IF you have the means to do so. I lost my license for 5 yrs do to opiate addiction so already having felt a burded to be toted around for anything and everything I needed, (I have a 4 and a 15 yr old daughter), I work, and I live 20 miles from my mom who has been a godsend to me, and the nearest clinic is probably 50 miles away, not reasonable. Especially having known what I had gone through getting it off the streets and having it prescribed for pain management, it was outta the question for the clinic anyway. I've been on suboxone for 2 years & YES I HAVE BEEN SUCCESSFULLY CLEAN, after so many attempts I am damn proud to say, I have my license back, (with a breathalizer, mind you I have 0 drinking offenses),I am going to school for criminal justice, I still work, and life couldn't be better for me today. My doc is AWESOME! If you find the right doctor you WILL appreciate the drug for what it is. I have my docs personal cell#, my therapists #, yes by the way I faithfully use them as well as internet connect, email, etc., and I there are days when I go to the office and my appointment takes all 3 of us. They are the reason I am here today. My doctor gave up nuclear medicine, which she has her degrees, to do what she does, helping people like me. I still havnt figd that out, but I cldnt be happier that I ended up in her hands. I wouldn't be here today without them. It IS expensive! but YES THE INSURANCE DOES COVER IT! I have been blessed. You just have to fight for yourself and follow the treatment plans given to you from your doc. This has always been a rule of thumb for me, active addiction or suboxone, if the doc sees you for 5 mins and writes you the rx, THEY'RE NO GOOD because you know you're only getting what you want, not what you need. You have to do the research. I never in a million yrs dreamed I would be where I am today! The suboxone, with the help of my doc and out treatment plan has saved my life. YES, I am scared when I come off of it. I will admit. It took away any and all desire for me to use. But I had to do the rest. Knowing this and knowing what I have today, this will keep me on the right path. And my doc is by me whatever obsticales come my way!!

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pegsispain: suboxone is not so much a 'narcotic', but a 'controlled substance'. suboxone is NOT natural opiate. It is only synthetic. It was designed to fill the opiate receptor sites to block and and all, in my case, 'cravings'. I have been on it for 2 yrs. Your friend should be able to openly question her doc about stuff like this, and I myself who still questions EVERYTHING, would definitely do so. That is what they are there for and they are surely getting paid enough to answer questions. Ask 'her', your friend about it. Let her know you still care and still have concerns. I can say it is a comfort to know that I still have my 'friends' on my side. A big comfort. I thought I had lost them all. It is a successful program for those who want to live a normal life again. I am 36 and was certainly desperate when I chose the suboxone program. I am a mom. And success is exactly what I have now. I have my license back after 6 yrs., I am going to school for criminal justice, 'cyber crime', and would highly recommend it for anyone who is honest with themselves about getting and staying clean.

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Hi John. I'm sorry to hear of your wife. I have been on suboxone for 2 yrs, following 15 yrs of addiction. I've dealt with the misunderstandings of the medication myself. First off, as an addict, the doctor should not have given both suboxone and ativan. It only creates room for a new addiction to benzos. There are numerous alternatives and this should be common sense to doctors who prescribe it, but the world is not perfect, obviously. Suboxone treatment is used so one can re-create a new way of life. 'We' have to learn to grow again. I take psych meds and antidepressants myself, none of which include benzos. The combo of suboxone and ativan are tipically only used thru the first few days or so of detox, depending on the severity of withdrawal. Suboxone treatment, yes, is substitute for ones' addiction, only temporarily.This could be a week, a month, in my case it's been 2 yrs. It IS NOT a cover up for ones mental state. I know now, being free from opiates after 2 yrs that my reasoning in active addiction WAS to be numb to every day life and stresses that came with it. It was'nt about the 'high', I simply didn't want to 'feel' anything. I have been very successful on the suboxone program, along with treatment and the people who surround me and never gave up. However, I am still under the care of a professional who has chosen her practice of 'chemical dependancy', to help people such as myself, over her nuclear medicine backround. I do consider myself one of the fortunates. Again, I'm sorry to hear of your wife.

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i was on methadone for a year now from having to kick a Oxycontin habit that i picked up from being prescribed them after a car accident because of multiple broken bones methadone saved my life but im tired of the clinics lines etc.. so know im 4 days into suboxone i stilll feel crummy but no where near a fulll withdrawal and i cant wait to be completely clean and i feel bad for ppl in the states there is no waiting lines here in Canada and the suboxone gets paid for buy the government or greenshield so i feel sorry for u guys who have to pay i know its damn expensive maybe its time for a trip to canada

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I first started with Vicodin, then started buying Percocet and Dilauded or any other kind of pill I could buy by the hundreds on the street. I snorted at least 20 pain pills a day and then started shooting Heroin for a little over a year and was up to about 5 bags a day and I'm only about 110lbs. It took over my entire life and became more important to me than anything or anyone else. I was selfish and was confident that there was no way to kick the addiction and had reached a point where I just figured I'd either get killed or kill myself in the world of Heroin addiction. Once I was forced in to detox and from the er ended up in a behavioral health detox ward, I was started on Suboxone. I was released 4 days later and never knew of a life that didn't revolve around wanting, craving and doing everything I could to get my drug. I do think about it, of course, but I don't crave it and couldn't even use it if I tried, considering Subs blocks the receptors from allowing you to get high off of narcotics. Suboxone saved my life and many of the lives of those in similar circumstances around me. I haven't touched a narcotic since my release. I've even been in bathrooms of others and seen full bottles of high powered pain killers and passed them right by. There is no need on suboxone. Please, give it a chance. It can safe your life and also provide you with a life. I've been living ever since, without the burden of being an active user.

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I have been taking pain killers for 12 years. I've always been addicted to something but opiates by far are the hardest to quit. Mainly because its a drug that you can take and noone will know. Pot they can tell, Drinking they can tell and so on. I've been on suboxone for about 3 months it really works. but ive notices that my problem is when i get bored is when i have cravings get some kind of hobby to keep your mind busy it helps

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Carey, are you still available to talk could I have your email address? I do see this post is very old.. thanks

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