Vicodin/ Placebo

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when I was first prescribed vicodin they were Watson, 349...then later 352 and then 357 and now 363 and 368. What do those numbers mean. The ones I felt that worked best were the 349 and 357 Watson. I may be wrong in the numbers (years have gone by since ) but I think I am right.

What is the STRONGEST vicodin made and does COLOR OF PILL have any reference to the quality of the med ? or the number on it. ie: is a 368 stronger then a 357.

why are they called LORTAB. when I first heard them called that, instead of vicodin I thought maybe they were ( placebo) to make me THINK they were vicodin but not really.

finally! speaking of PLACEBO can doctors and pharmacies give placebo without notifying the patient, can they legally do that?

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Hi, Frenchy! I did explain a lot of this in response to your other post.

But I'll try to give a bit of a recap here, in case you don't see that one.

Vicodin, Lortab, Norco and Lorcet are all name brands for a medication containing Hydrocodone and Acetaminophen, they are just manufactured by different companies. The generic is referred to by the active ingredients, with the Acetaminophen sometimes abbreviated as APAP on prescriptions.

The colors mean nothing, that's entirely up to the whit and whim of the manufacture.

The markings must be different and unique to each manufacturer and to each medication and dosage they make of it. This enables the products to be identified, in case of emergency.

Learn more Vicodin details here.

The generic your pharmacy carries can vary, depending on which company was offering the cheapest price at the time they needed to restock their supply. This is how they keep prices as low as possible for those customers without insurance.

No, they cannot give you a placebo, that would be illegal.

As to the dosages, the Acetaminophen in all of them will soon be lowered to no more than 325mgs per dose, as requested by the FDA, due to concerns about overdose toxicity and the liver damage or failure that can occur with long-term use of high amounts.

Is there anything else I can help with?

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Is there a pain medication that does not contain acetaminophen? I am currently on percocet 2-325. Two every four hours for pain after a cervical laminectomy. It is somewhat effective but I don't want to increase the dose because of the acetaminophen. I hope to be back on vicodin or less soon but it all has acetaminophen in it WHY?

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Regarding the "Placebo" question - my grandma's doctor used to give her "Placebos" - every time she saw him she would tell him she was "dizzy" or that she gets "dizzy spells" ... after checking her for anything that might be causing dizziness, he gave up. He told my parents he was going to give her a "Placebo" (just a "sugar pill" - and not the diabetes kind!) because he thought it was "all in her head." He must have been right, because she stopped complaining about being dizzy! Was he allowed to do that, like, only with the consent of my parents (her caregivers) or something? And what line would a doctor draw? What if are seeing a doctor who really does think your "pain" is psychosomatic?? And this was several years ago, so I don't know or have access to any markings from the pills.

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I have had operations on my hip
and knee R/S 19 yrs. ago. One Dr.
says I need both replaced the other
says its my back(which feels OK).
I am side effects(lower extremity
rash and swollen lip). Are these
caused by being given Placebos
instead of HYDROcodone?

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can u get vicodin in spain over the counter and what name does it go by?

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I was in a severe car accident in 88, I hv 9 discs that hv ruptured n I refuse surgery. Was told u shouldn't be walking. Degenerate disease. I hv bad knees surgery on those. I'm in so much pain I grind my teeth to point of cracking them. Watson 357 were the only thg that helped take edge off. Not all Paine very gone. I asked my doc about new vice cuz they don't make Watson any more. New vice I got so sick on I couldn't move find out allergic to fillers they put in. So I asked about brand name no genertics. Ridiculous. Now he tried me on 30mg of somethg new xysingla er. I get severe charlie horses in my legs my feet my back. Wth. So fustrating that those who r hurting n in Cronin pain can't get help be cuz of kids who want a high. Seriously. These new things stink . Xysingla er last only lk 6 to 8 hrs not 24. 30 mg. Now what? Uhh

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