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My doctor just put me on subutex along with percocet. I've been on percocet for yrs for severe and chronic migraines. He told me to take the subutex and if it doesn't work to take a perc. I take 15mg percs at a time. I've read some stuff online that worries me. Some people say if you take percs with subutex you'll go into withdrawals. I went through severe withdrawals with fioricet months ago and I don't want to go through that hell again. I took my first subutex about an hour ago and I still have a migraine so I want to take a perc now. Can I do that or will I get sick?

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lilqtpie723 Says:
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Subutex does not have naloxone in it, this is what makes you sick- google search naloxone suboxone DOES have nalaxone- now I have been taking both for years, so some answers on this forum are confusing me...but basically nalaxon is in SUBOXONE it is an opioid ANTAGONIST which means it blocks or counteracts other opiods(this is what makes you sick).Both SUBOXONE and SUBUTEX contain Buprenorphine which is an opioid agonist-a semi synthetic opioid which helps treat addiction bc it binds to the same receptors as say Morphine or Percocet. Subutex alone with another opioid will not make you sick, you just may not feel the same effect because the subutex fills those receptors- therefore there is no room or little for the Percocet or whatever to bind to (this is why it is used to treat addiction)...if that makes sense. It is possible to feel the effects of both depending on how fast your body breaks down the meds (your metabolism) and when you took them.
On another note im pregnant with my first child and on subutex, my question to the girl who posted about giving birth and not feeling the pain meds is where you on subutex or suboxone and how much? The doctors have not told me pain relief would be an issue and I meet with the anastisioligist(sp) next week- im anxious now to hear what they have to say...

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heather Says:
get the public defender they are actually way better then you think they are. the ones that they have for cases like this usually spend most of there time fighting these cases. I know this cause im going through it right now and the attorney I have right now doesat least 2 cases a month and she is amazing! so please take my advice! you wont be disappointed that you did! I hope you the best and I hope you get her soon! im sorry you are going through this I know how heartbreaking it is! feel free to let me know if you would like any of my help. {edited for privacy}

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sally Says:
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Ive already taken a suboxone 4mg..havent been.on them ling but am prescribed fioricet with codeine for migraines...i have one now and want to take one,i was under the.impression that if you've already taken suboxone and take a pain killer u just sont get "high" from it but that it will not put you into W/D unless you were to do the opposite by taking a narcotic and then taking suboxone before your body starts going thru W/ this correct?

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mickey Says:
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I gave birth to a beautiful baby girl 1/31/14. I took 8mg subutex daily perscribed by my doctor.on the 3rd day she was born the hospital said she had to be placed in icu to be replaced on morphine for withdrawal.they kept her for 27days then cps came and took her saying I neglected and abused her. I had to go to court forcing me to sign medical records since I wouldn't sign because it was my right not sign caseworker took it to the court.the judge ordered her be fosfostered giving me 1hr once a week with my infint,she is my heart my everything I can't figure out what I did wrong?my doc and pediatric doc said not to taper dose it will harm or cause a miscarriage. Also the atternyy general is representing dyfis and cps is that legal? Not to mention I have a legal case pending at tha same court. Please give me some guidence to fight for my daughter I need an answe. I did everything legally how were these people able to take my Angel? I don't have the $.for a lawyer and we all know public pretender are on their side not in my best interests. I lost my family Grave was my gift bless by GOD. I strongly need advice to appropriately hand this.sincerely michele

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jjthejetplane Says:
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Naloxone has nothing to do with it. Naloxone is only In suboxone to prevent misuse of the product. Buprenorphine has such a high binding affinity to the opiate receptors that if you take buprenorphine too soon after you take say hydrocodone or oxycodone, that the buprenorphine will throw off the remaining oxycodone/hydrocodone on your opiate receptors and send you into withdrawls

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texstar Says:
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I take subutex and when hospitalized for pneumonia, I find out Baptist Hospital East in Louisville, Ky doesn't even keep subutex in stock. So of course, I was about to stroke out and my doctor gave me oxycontin every 8 hrs and oxr ir every 6 hours. I had and didn't expect to have any symptoms of withdrawls. Once home, I continued on my subutex with a smooth transition also.

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Veronica Says:
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Amy I want to come off the 30s I have Subutex do I wait until the opiates are out or can I start Subutex with the perks or will I go right into withdrawal I like your quote it made me laugh

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Dj Says:
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You were nauseous and throwing up because of all the opiates you had just taken. That is not withdrawal. I took a 30 mg oxycodone this morning and a subutex 6 hrs later it doesn't do anything, there's no naxolone

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Molley 52 H Says:
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Where do u live? i am ready to sell my house &move for chronic pain. no dr will write my old meds. i traveled 2hrs to another state. but no longer can i live @ ohio,ky border & ky wont help u at all!!

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amy Says:
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I don't understand what everyone is talking about. I can take subutex and perk 30s in the same day and feel high as a kite!!

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B Says:
Hi I am very sorry to hear of your father.. You seem like a great person..really. If u EVER need to just talk or whatnot ur welcome to email me? {edited for privacy} BTW, haha my name is Brandie and not that it matters I'm 29 ;-) , friends call me B. God bless you and ur family.

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Subhead Says:
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Your wrong about the whole shooting up suboxone part. That's all I'm gonna say so that's not the 100% truth about subs.

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Blue Haze Says:
Yes u can, thats why theres both subutex an suboxone. the subutex does not contain the opiate blocker called naloxone which will make u sick if u combine it with a protagonist opiate.

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scared of withdrawal Says:
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I been on subutex for 5 days and I was taking vicodone as well for breakthrough pain but I don't think they were helping, so I jus taken the prescribed 2 a day subutex and it works well I just hope this isn't another ride I wanna get clean. I accept that I can't have 0 pain and that I am an addict time to get my life back..

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scared of withdrawal Says:
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I just started taking subutex, an I also get lorcet 10/650 and I can tell it helps I usually wake up and take the lorcets then later I take a subutex but I have been getting headaches.but am I wasting precious pain meds I only taken 1of the 2 a day 8mg subutex,should I start taking both my plan is to get clean

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shaun Says:
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Not a reply but been on 100mg dia morphine fr 8 yrs..its not touching my pain anymore..will subetex or methadone help me
Or should I just chuck it in..n give up the ghost. .

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AH27 Says:
My previous post warns against the danger of using opiates, but wasn't exactly useful info for the thread. I see a bunch of back and forth and honestly don't know where people are getting some of this info....researched extensively and had very in depth convo with doctor before taking suboxone, so here it is the 100% correct info on this...

Suboxone is the same as Subutex except it contains Naloxone, an opiate blocker. There's such a small amount of Naloxone included it only comes into effect if shot up, which will not allow the user to feel the Buprenorphrine in the Suboxone from shooting. Hence the user doesn't get high from it. Used orally the Naloxone has absolutely no effect and the Buprenorphrine is allowed to do its job. The Bup is such a strong binder to opiate receptors in the brain, it negates any other opiate taken afterwards. Yeah, maybe if you take enough opiates after using Suboxone you'll get some effect, but nothing close to what the high would normally be. Buprenorphrine has about a 36 hour half life, so even a day after the effects of another opiate are very weak. On the other hand, if an opiate is taken and the user is high, and then takes Suboxone, the Buprenorphrine literally kicks the opiate off of the receptors in the brain. Therefore, instead of having the opiate slowly removed from the body with withdrawals slowly kicking in, the user goes from high to a withdrawal state immediately, causing severe acute withdrawal symptom which from all accounts is pure hell.

Summary - Suboxone before opiates you're in the clear, but don't experience very much of a high if any. Opiates before Suboxone, you're going to immediately be thrown into severe withdrawals and want to die. For anyone that's ever been prescribed Suboxone, that's why the doctors wants to wait until the patient is already experiencing withdrawals to avoid the immediate and terrible symptoms.

Hope this helps!! Definitely accurate FYI.

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Vic Says:
You are correct, to many Dr. here lol...
The Doctor said you can not take Subox and opiate you will be sick, and that is why he gave me Subutex, you can take an opiate all day on it and you will not feel any of the effects of the opiate.

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Know it all Says:
You're a f***ing no it all. Its a simple f***in question. Not everybody knows that. Hey do u know who our 24th president is? Well if u don't know, you deserve to be put in your place.

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