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My doctor just put me on subutex along with percocet. I've been on percocet for yrs for severe and chronic migraines. He told me to take the subutex and if it doesn't work to take a perc. I take 15mg percs at a time. I've read some stuff online that worries me. Some people say if you take percs with subutex you'll go into withdrawals. I went through severe withdrawals with fioricet months ago and I don't want to go through that hell again. I took my first subutex about an hour ago and I still have a migraine so I want to take a perc now. Can I do that or will I get sick?
This is a pretty active site, always ignore the haters always. I have been taking Subutex and use 5mg Percs for pain spikes I get from serious activity, then I cut the Percs out as the pain settles down. I have informed my VA doc and my primary doc and the guy who prescribes my Subutex. He is the only one that goes nuts over my use of Percs for really heavy duty pain, or migraines. The Subutex, 24mgs a day only gives me about 25% pain relief, its just not enough for me to do all the things he wants me to do to improve my fitness level. If I am that active I need more pain support. If I do nothing I gain weight lose muscle and hate life. I am living every mnute of everyday because I have CVID also, I have had near death expierence twice at least. I am "DEADMANWALKING." I have had more lives than a cat. My more specific question is: What is the issue with the receptors using Subutex and Percocet irregularly. The guy who prescribes the Subutex says Im defeating the purpose of the Subutex, he is of the "either or camp." The Subutex just doesnt control the pain enough. My pain on Subutex alone is 4 out of 10 versus 6 out of 10 withot Subutex. Before Subytex every morning was 8 out of 10 when I tried to get up. Now its 5 out of 10 geting up in the morning. When I am really active it reaches 7 out of 10 for a short time until I take 10mg of Percocet which reduces the pain and I slow down and rest bringing pain back down.
I will not get sick mixing subutex wit pain killers done it alot doing it now now suboxone on the otherhand u will regreat mixing the two
Hi there, you should not get sick at all. Subutex does not have naloxone in it. You will be fine. And it's actually the opposite you would have to take the percocet 1st then the Suboxone to possibly go through withdrawal. And it would have to be Suboxone not Subutex. It's Suboxone that has naloxone which is what will cause the withdrawal and to prevent that..,you should never take sooner than 18 to 24 hours after taking any kind of full opiate. Hydrocodone, codeine, H, etc... Good Luck!!!
I have taken a percocet right after doing a subutex and I have never had a problem so I don't understand these people that are saying they are getting sick on subutex after they take a percocetall I know is I've never had a problem when taking both
I've been on subutex last 2 days to come off oxy. I took 16 mg total yesterday and my last dose was 4 mg at about 8 am this morning. It is now almost 2 pm and I want to take a per comet for pain. Will the per comet work since it's been 6 hours since I took the subutex? Or do you think it's still bound to the receptors? If I take more percs do you think the sheer amount will allow me to feel the effects of the percs?
I have used Percocet and Subutex for 2 years. I have never had ANY withdrawls. I quit taking the Percs a week ago, Im trying to figure put how things go without the Percocet. No withdrawls to report. I have to say unequivically with no qualifications or caveates the Percocet has helped with the pain. I have an undiagnosed autoimmune disease, Im just another Vet that is dying from something yet they can't figure ot what it is or how I got it. By the way, the VA does nothing for me. I have severe chronic pain that spikes right after Ive been active. I have bad headaches too. The Percocet doesnt touch the headaches, I don't know why. I do get relief from the wicked pain in my back, hips and legs. My immune system is now compromised and I get monthly IGG infusions. I'm screwed, yet everybody blows a gasket when I take the cocktail that gives me relief. Anyway TMI, I am sharing my experience with Percocet and Subutex.
166The real promoter Says:
Post 106 ju your a dumb as just because someone is asking a question doesn't make them a junkie some people jet multiple medications for different medical problems and simply don't wanna be throwing up with cold sweats and stomach cramps don't be so inconsiderate there are junkies but not all of us
165J Bones Says:
That wasn't withdrawal, you just got to high. There could have been some withdrawal if you were eating the percs and then the sub, but IM pretty sure that in doesn't work the other way round.
Theirs way to many pricks out their that will judge thats never been down that road only the true addicts in recovery give best advice my counselor told me he was a coke head and became a counselor to help others with their problems only they have been their
Rule of thumb don't ever go public with your addictions go to the treatment center don't let any one know your addictions people will see it as a weakness
I really need to get on a suboxone program I have no medical insurance and I am in Alaska not many resources. I know there is some patient Assistance for the medication but does anyone know of any help to pay for the doctor appointments?
Suboxone & Perc together sounds more like self medicating than it does an actual prescribed treatment. Unless you did not inform the doctor you were already using one. Suboxone is a pain killer alone & not quite effective only if the dosage is not high enough to help withdrawal. However, when taken w/ Percocet, not only are you defeating the purpose you are adding to the problem.
I have been on suboxine for four years I just had an MRI and found out I fractured my back I've been in a tremendous amount of pain , my doctor gave me vicoden for pain I said I didn't want to take them because of withdrawells , she told me to take half my dose of subs for two days then stop subs I'm in serious withdrawals now course vicoden ain't touching withdrawels or back pain so I bought a subutex knowing there is no narcain so therefore I won't withdraw ..
159its a secret Says:
Jane from message 133...What is your problem! I can not believe that you would risk the baby's health just because you "kept your faith in god". I, myself am an addict and i could never live with myself if i did something like that! The fact that nothing too major happened to your child does NOT make this OK. I would maybe try to rethink having anymore children until you figure out how to be a decent parent/human being! You should really be ashamed of yourself! You make me sick and you need some serious help!
I have been taking hydros and oxys for about 4 years or so now -the last year I take on average 50mg/day. I have not been able to be without them. The last 3 days I have tried subutex and taken about 4-6mg daily and been fine. I'm wanting to take a hydro, not sure if it is safe, if/when it will even do anything
Most likely u won't feel them or get euphoria from them. But They mite help your pain a little bit . But if u really want to feel the euphoria and get real pain releif u should wait at least 48 hours after sub. Sub binds so strongly to your receptors that it takes about 48 hours befor u can really " feel" any other opiates. From experience, I've taken at least 5 80's and a few roxi on top the next day after taking sub and basically felt nothing , and wasted the pills. And it doesn't matter if u insufflate them or swallow them, u most like are not gonna feel them, so hold off one more day so u can actually enjoy your pain pills. Either way, u won't get sick or anything like that, but u won't feel high or get serious pain releif.
156painful hips Says:
I have 2 roxicodone 30's and 2 of 80's I have been on the subutex not subito new treatment a few months and I am stressed in a lot of pain with my hips dislocated, I really want to take the pain pills but I am scared I will waste them and not feel them, the most I take a day is 8mg of Subutex last dose was yesterday......am I gonna waste them and am I better off insufflating the roxi's? I am hurting bad...... thanks please no mean answers the shot is all confusing to me one person says one thing and then another says something opposite.......
I'm sitting here reading these posts and I am amazed at so many misinformed people are on here giving advice that are clueless about anything they are posting on.
Subutex is not a blocker naloxon is the blocker in suboxone subutex will intensify any other opiate pain killer.
He is just another pill head that has no idea what he is talking about you got sick because your body could't handle the dose very small amounts of subutex can make you feel like your in withdraw your body will adjust and you will do fine. Avoid any advice from people using words like pain killas.
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