Taking Subutex And Percocet Together (Page 24)

My doctor just put me on subutex along with percocet. I've been on percocet for yrs for severe and chronic migraines. He told me to take the subutex and if it doesn't work to take a percocet. I usually take 15 mg percocet at a time. I've read some stuff online that worries me. Some people say if you take percs with subutex you'll go into withdrawals. I went through severe withdrawals with fioricet months ago and I don't want to go through that hell again. I took my first subutex about an hour ago and I still have a migraine so I want to take a perc now. Can I do that or will I get sick?

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LMFAO Dramatic much? The Dr. Is having his licence pulled? Really? Ummm Im Pretty sure it takes a lot more than that to pull a Dr.'s Licence. Ur a funny Dude. But Just because U type this nonsense doesn't make it true! . Theres so many of us with our own real life experiences with this subutex and opiates not causing withdrawls than theres U a "Google Doctor" who has nothing else to do but Troll. So Have a seat and stop confusing people that need serious sound advice. Its not always about someone trying to abuse something! SMH

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KIM: I am ALSO talking about SUBUTEX, not SUBOXONE. If you took Oxycodone AFTER taking Subutex, you wouldn't go into precipitated withdrawals. You can think I'm "talking crap" all you want to, but you are wrong. Precips would happen if you took the Subutex TOO SOON AFTER taking the Oxys, which is the OPPOSITE of what you said. So calm down already. Talk about DRAMATIC!! I'm not "researching in the wrong place" and I am also working with the leading Addiction Doctor in my area. Think what you want, I really don't care. I know my info is sound. I just helped someone through Precips from taking SUBUTEX too soon AFTER the opioids. Not the other way around. Did you see that? Can you READ? SUBUTEX. You have your information backwards, and you want to dispute known science, two different MDs who are also Addiction Specialists, two ADDITIONAL medical researchers, and myself, who has been on Subutex and Suboxone, Methadone, plus being an opioid addict myself for 30 years. You are correct; if you take Subutex and then take Oxys AFTERWARD, you will not go into Precips. I never said otherwise. Maybe you could take a reading comprehension class at your local junior college, because you seem to be struggling.

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i realize these posts are old but GEEEEZ, were these posts from an alternate universe out there somewhere & these posts erroneously ended up in the 'real' world instead of the 'bizarro' world where they belong? it makes absolutely zero sense to me that any physician would prescribe both percocet and subutex to the same person to take at the same time. why were you prescribed the percocet? i can only assume for pain. so then why would you be prescribed subutex? certainly not for pain, so then what for? I am always receptive to enlightenment.

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Kim,
May I submitt for your consideration that the opiate/opioid administered to you in conjunction with subutex was a placebo since the active ingredient in subutex WILL ALWAYS initiate precipitated withdrawal syndrome.The presence of NALAXONE has zero efficacy UNLESS used intravenously.I may not agree with the tenor or tone that some exhibit on this forum in name of education but kkh is 100% accurate on This subject.

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Dani,

Lmfao now that was a post to remember ;) Eliquent,Fact based and
Hilarious.It doesn't get much better then that.I only wish I was graced with style and articulation,But I digress.
Many thanks for the 411.....,
Regards,
Kenie.

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DANI: I just sent you a big ol post, answering the questions you asked me. Hope you see it. Love your answer here though. It is amazing how many people are putting substances into their bodies, and they have NO CLUE how these substances work.

INTHENAMEOFMEDICINE: Thank you. Not only is this "Kim" person completely wrong, apparently she had to get REALLY nasty about it. Nothing like having someone tell you "what's up" in no uncertain terms, and be just completely misinformed about the whole thing. I will assume she took her Subutex in the a.m., and then took the full agonist opioids later, which would NOT bring on precipitated withdrawals. So she's getting completely worked up over something that wasn't even the issue! Hilarious. But if I had a nickel for everyone who thought the problem was the Naloxone rather than the Bupe itself, I could have retired long ago.

Once more people; it is the BUPRENORPHINE ITESELF that is the "blocker" which will bring on precipitated withdrawals, whether there is Naloxone in it or not. Naloxone, when taken sublingually has less than 10% bioavailability (something like 5 or 6%) and is ONLY in Suboxone to keep people from taking it intravenously. Taking full agonist opioids soon AFTER taking Bupe will not cause precipitated withdrawals. Taking the BUPE too soon AFTER taking the opioids WILL.

Everyone clear? Thanks :)

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Thank you for clarifying that. Something else that gets mixed up alot is that subutex and suboxone are different. The only difference is that suboxone contains naloxone. But medications are buprenorphine.

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You are still not totally educated! The ingredient in subutex is only buprenorphine. Which is a pain med, however, it is only a partial, that is why, yes you can take other narcotics. Because buprenorphine alone is a partial one and won't get the full "euphoria". Which is good for pain patients, as they are not so focused on the "euphoric effects" it's just the relief from the pain. Suboxone is buprenorphine plus naloxone (or narcan, same thing) you will get withdrawals from the naloxone. More severe if it is inj. That is why they are now coming out with new drugs that contain naloxone for severe constipation. Because taking naloxone orally with help relieve constipation... Why. Because it puts a person in a low withdrawal. That is why they warn you about the other side effects. Also known as other withdrawal symptoms.

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Wb1: No, you can NOT take buprenorphine with "other narcotics". You are dispensing bad advice and mis-information. And no, taking naloxone orally will not relieve constipation (unless you are talking about the diarrhea that accompanies withdrawal), but taking methylnaloxone will relieve constipation without withdrawal symptoms, because it can not cross the blood-brain barrier the way naloxone can, and only works on the opioid receptors in the gut. AND NO, you are not getting "withdrawal from the naloxone" in Suboxone. It is ONLY in there to keep people from taking it intravenously. The bioavailability of naloxone when taken under the tongue is less than 10%, but is 100% bioavailable when inj. IT IS THE BUPRENORPHINE ITSELF THAT CAUSES WITHDRAWAL.

It's amazing how much bad information you were able to cram into that short comment. May I suggest that it is YOU who could use more "education".

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I hope you found relief somewhere or somehow, if not I may now how you can find help

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I think the pharmacy gave you the wrong type of subutext, one has a blocker in it and the other doesn't.

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JEREMIAH: There is no "wrong kind of Subutex"...there is SUBUTEX, and there is SUBOXONE. They are BOTH, as you put it, "blockers". Taking full agonist opioids with EITHER ONE is a bad idea. Ugh, more mis-information? We don't need!!!

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I am so sorry to bother you , I was just reading some of the posts on here because I just had a c section 2 days ago and I've been off Subutex for 3 days. The nurses have decreased my pain management to 1 - 5mg percoset every 4 hours which isn't helping me at all! I would rather go back in my subutex because at least I'll feel somewhat normal. I was really wondering how soon after the last 5 mg percoset do I have to wait to take the subs? I couldn't stand to go into precipitated withdrawal in the condition I am in , but on such low doses of the percoset I don't want to have to wait in misery too long either. Thank you for your help.

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LAGUNAMAMA: I would wait at least 24 hours. 24 to 36 hours to be safe. Then I would start with a small amount of the Bupe, wait about 30 min., see how you feel...then take a little more. I don't know how much you are planning to take, but I wouldn't do more than one or two milligrams at a time until you see how you adjust. Good luck!

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I find it very hard to believe a doctors put you on both of those ? What would be the reason for subutex ? I would think if they thought pain meds would help your situation they would just give you those.

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Thank you!! So irritating to read all that mess haha.

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Subutex contains no naloxone. Suboxone on the other hand it will cause you to be sick. With subutex you should be fine. I've done it plenty.

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AHU: Subutex and Suboxone are no different in how they affect or interact with full-agonist opioids. They can BOTH cause withdrawals when taken too soon after the opioids because it is the BUPE ITSELF that causes this. not the Naloxone. The Naloxone is only in Suboxone to keep people from taking Bupe intravenously; it's bioavailability is less than 5% when taken sublingually.

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Everyone who is mentioning Narcan, Suboxone actually contains Naloxone... NOT Narcan... Educate yourself before you kill someone!

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I say bs. Withdrawals? I take subutex, oxycontin, oxycodone and whatever else and never have I experienced withdrawals...ever. y'all are way off. Maybe you won't feel the full effects of the oxys but withdrawals? Nah! Good luck though.

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