Suboxone And Pre Employment Drug Screen (Page 3)

I am prescribed suboxone for an opiate addiction maintenance program. First, will it show up in a ten panel test? Second, can an employer discriminate if they have already offered me the job? Third, is this violating any privacy laws?

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Suboxen does contain opiates do a little research

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Suboxen will not I say again will not show on a drug test

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I do believe suboxone does not show up on a typical 10 panel drug screen....it is one of the drugs you have to test for specifically.

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yes Tracy, based on my experience you are exactly right. Sure, subs are an opiate, but a specific test is needed for it. Same with oxy and roxy...opiates but need a special test, usually included in the ten panel.

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Suboxone will show up on some standard testing now. Typically pre-employment no, but I know that most probation/court review, drug courts and welfare do. Depending on jurisdiction probably and county and state funding, I'd imagine, as well.

Point being though that in my experience suboxone doesn't have to be individually, specifically tested for in a lab setting anymore. My court review (I'm on no probation or drug court) was an instant result, 10-12 urine panel test, that had an immediate result of positive/negative for Bupe.

The test was relatively new as I had only been there a couple months prior and this was not included before and I actually had to explain what Bupe was and show proof of my prescription. Civil rights violations aside, it was there and I've heard about it becoming more common in more settings. Up until a few years ago suboxone was practically unknown in the mainstream but for years some states have made mandated testing for it a requirement in their judicial system. One being Maryland.

If you haven't experienced a standard urine test for suboxone yet you will soon. Don't belittle others because they've had a different experience than you and actually know what they're talking about from THEIR experience.

And no suboxone does not test positive as an opiate, it metabolizes in your body as an entirely own drug, BUPE.

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Ash...Figures they'd catch up to test for bupenorhine , but if you're under treatment with it and have a valid script, it should be ok. But since it is a valid treatment for opiate addiction (classified as a disease) disclosure walks that thin line of privacy and HIPPA...however I'm voluntary on private insurance, so maybe that's different. But without a valid script, it'll probably cause a problem. Shame, cause it's worked wonders for me keeping me clear of oxy and heroin.

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Yes and it's a shame that it's become relatively hard to seek addiction treatment that actually works, ya know with science instead of prayer. We've had issues with treatment facilities opening in my state, claims made that the opening of suboxone clinics will bring addicts in. Heaven's sake my grandmother is an opiate addict by definition.

Also finding a suboxone provider that even accepts insurance can be deterring in itself. Much more lucrative as a cash business apparently, making newly sober addicts difficult to manage the funding for a 250+ monthly doctors visit plus the prescription which ran me altogether around 900 a month.

As a new Medicaid recipient, due to job layoffs, I had the significant challenge of trying to find a physician within a 100 miles radius that accepted insurance. There were three, one only accepting new patients after a month's wait.

Treating the actual addiction seems to be on the back burner instead of the funding supplied by the never ending drug war and the job force it creates.

Sorry, ranting.

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I would never get it the anyone, I gave been on suboxen for quite sometime, and as far as bup being new to the mainstream , it's not. Now getting back to testing for suboxen . As I said before, it Wil l not show up on an employment screening test or a test that you will receive if you are on probation . IT WILL NOT SHOw UP! So if tthere is someone out there that us concerned about this, please believe me. Thus site is here for ppl to ask questions that they are concerned about so I hope that I can ease someone's fears, and help anyone that I possibly can. I would never give wrong info to anyone. Ty Dave

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Amen brother. Tried the rehabs and 12-steps many times...if they work for someone, great. But the suboxone treatment is the closest to getting back to feeling like myself before opiate addiction. The DEA MAKES IT DIFFICULT, allowing a small number of licenses limiting patients. If more $&$ were spent on this program, it would allow people to resume productive lives.Guess we can dream and hope they see the light.

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Wow...not sure if the reason I had such a hard time processing your reply was caused from the terrible grammar or your lack of obvious experience and actual facts.

I never wish too often to say "I told you so" but in your case I do wish I could be there when the time came.

If you had actually used your eyes and the grey matter in your skull called a brain you would've read that I stated most obviously that pre-employment screening does not typically test for it. Probation and courts in MANY JURISDICTIONS do.

Read my friend. Your "advice" is just what you think someone wants to hear, neither factual, educated or honest.

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If that was directed to me ash, you need not say another word. Your reply describes exactly what kind of person you are. By the way ash give me the jurisdiction that does? Just the jurisdiction , not your ignorance and name calling. Ty

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Ash...I hope you're not replying to my post, but rather David's. I have no problem using both my eyes and grey matter and was simply agreeing with your statements on the success of sub treatment as opposed to the 12-step programs. (Science vs. prayer.) My grammar seemed fairly clear, and I based my reply on personal experience and facts as I have researched. I' m simply offering information and opinion, again based on what I've experienced personally. I apologize if you took it the wrong way, but it seems I agreed with your viewpoint and was offering support to your post .

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It's not about the Grammer frog, it's about the reply itself . You can usually tell what kind of person you are speaking with, but in this case that was pretty fast.my eyes are fine also, and I believe my grey matter is too.lmao it was that I was a passenger in a car at the time I wrote those posts. Why am I explaining. Have a great day . Ash grade that paragraph. Lol

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Seems like someone is searching jurisdictions.

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Sorry Dave I had no problem with your post...I felt Ash's post regarding mine was wrong. If it was about your post, that's his business, but I had no problem with it. Typing on a mobile device in a car with autocorrect can cause mistakes that are not the writer's fault.... can't always proofread. every post!

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No Purple Frog, sorry I thought it was obvious who I was replying to lol.

@David, thanks for at least utilizing spell check this time. Sorry to disappoint but I have previously attempted to make a list of known jurisdictions to no avail as most do not advertise to their offenders what they test for, I'd imagine the reasons to be obvious.

I don't understand why IT'S SO HARD FOR YOU TO COMPREHEND THAT YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT? Are you one of the many that instead of finding out something new or different than what you thought go "oh noooo you can't tell me anything because I'm all knowing, all seeing, omnipotent being that has been in every predicament known to man"?

I'm gathering a yes from your response so far.

Let's take Cleveland for example, I've been a Suboxone patient for over two years and frequented these forums for nearly as long so will try to provide the link (doubtful that it will help since you fail to comprehend no matter what), ANYWHOOO...Cleveland has many subdivisions so obviously many jurisdictions. One JURISDICTION does not while the one next door does. Hmm...I've also provided the fact the entire state of Maryland does as well as my own court jurisdiction. Which is pretty podunk and low on the funding totem so that in itself should provide a few clues.

The internet is full of hocus pocus gobiltygoop as you preach, I however prefer to find accurate information from a trusted source. If someone comes here for advice and takes your ignorance as such I'd say they deserve what outcomes they get.

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@Purple Frog, meant to share this nifty trick I found by accident really: most pain management doctors/clinics are able to prescribe suboxone for both pain and addiction, I believe, without SOME of the DEA restrictions enforced for addiction treatment centers, limited patients etc. Currently I am in treatment in a pain management center. How exactly does your insurance work? I have paid out of pocket for most medical care since I was 19 and am always confused by insurers use of almost legal mumbo jumbo terminology;)

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Purple Frog, I stated that my post was not directed at you. I would've clarified initially but I assumed it was obvious to who it was directed to. My issue isn't about the grammar wiyh DAVID'S post, if that is also not evident I think my time is being wasted here.

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If I take a drug test for a job and they put my piss in two different bottles. Does anyone know if they do that if they would be testing for suboxone?

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Ash, I believe the bupe is, in your case, listed as a narc to test for. I also believe they need to use a specific test to look for it. Just because it is listed on your 10-12 panel screen does not mean the test isn't specific....it only means they test for certain narcs/controlled substances. 10-12 panel is not "the test" so to speak.....HOW they test, meaning equipment used and standard of use is the test. I don't remember exactly what it's called but I'm sure u understand what I'm talking about. I'm sure more places are going to start placing the bupe on typical screens since it is being abused more often than not anymore. Just a thought I thought I'd share. U can ask your doc or lab.

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