Suboxone 8mg/2mg And Roxicodone 30's (Page 14)

I am currently taking Roxicodone 30's each day. I have suboxone 8mg/2mg to help get off of these. I know the suboxones are the best pill made to help with the withdrawals but I'm wondering if for the firsrt 3 to 5 days when I'm having trouble sleeping and feeling clammy, if i should take like half of a Roxicodone 30 (which i have done in the past), as it helps me to sleep and takes away the clammy feeling? Any other suggestions that you may have? Thanks to anyone answering this for me.

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To lino1759 and others: You are asking: I want to stop using drug, when should I take SUBOXONE?

Timing depends on you. You take at the time that you START TO FEEL SIGNS OF WITHDRAWAL. For some of us, 12 hours after last fix. For some of us, 8 hours after last fix. For even some of us who are special, 4 hours after last fix. Why? Only you know when you start feeling like you need to take more of your fix (Your fix could be H, percocet, oxycodone....) only you know how long your fix lasts and only you know how soon you need your fix again. The KEY is: when you START TO FEEL the suffering because you need your next fix, that is the time to take SUBOXONE. Why? You need to understand that SUBOXONE has 2 drugs inside. 1 of them (buprenorphine part of SUBOXONE) will go to your brain and grab the receptor and stimulate a little so you will not suffer. Because SUBOXONE will HOLD ON AND STIMULATE the same receptor you use for your fix (PERCOCET or OXYCODONE....), the receptor will not accept anything else. If you take SUBOXONE too soon, you will waste your PERCOCET or OXYCODONE. Why? Once SUBOXONE grabs the receptor, SUBOXONE will stick to receptor for a while, PERCOCET or OXYCODONE will not have a receptor to grab and give you effect. That's why if you take SUBOXONE too soon, you will waste your fix. Good luck and continue this path please....Thank you very much in advance.

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Yes you can take it! You are taking a low dose of perc, I was on 500mg plus habit ! I would use at night and be able to take a sub in the am! If you feel like you are starting withdrawls then yes you are ready! But if you are not in withdrawls do not take it yet! But as recommended from dr 24 hours is what they want! But you know your body !

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You would just be wasting the 30's because of the blocker that are in the Sub's

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I took a little over a half a sub this morning at 9, how long will it be til I can feel a perocet? Really need to know/ thanks very much.

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I do believe your message is very on point and real, I have been taking a lot of pain medication due to pain from female problems, surgeries and then breast cancer surgeries chemo and radiation. I have tried to ween off which I have but still take 3-4 30 mg Percs a day for pain (my body is naturally addicted) so I ran out and my gurl hooked me up w an 8mg suboxine do you think that's enough? And when can I go back to pills if I have to?

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Hi BC, Not sure what your asking. Are you wondering if an 8mg sub will be enough to detox you off the oxys? If so then it,s probably not enough. What you could try is to cut it up in quarters. You need to wait until your in withdrawal. If you don,t you chance going into whats called a precipitated withdrawal and believe me, you don,t want that to happen. Wait at the very least 12hrs. 16-18hrs would be better.
Try taking one of those quarters (2mg) My sub dr. says not to drink, eat or smoke for around 15mins before and after taking. Put it under your tounge and don't talk for 5-10mins until it disolves.

After 20-30mins you should be feeling better. You might have to take another quarter but if you really don,t need it than don't. The next day try taking a little less and so on. Subs are very strong. You can cut the strips into tiny pieces and still get relief. As far as taking pills after, it,ll take awhile before you will feel them. Sometimes several days. They will still help somewhat for pain but you won't get any buzz off them. Good luck.

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Hi there, I am currently hooked up blues (30s) or actually anything similar that I am able to get.(perc, vic whatever...) I take them orally and not all at once, the most I have ever taken is half a blue at a time. I started a couple years ago when my now ex fiance's mom would give me 10/325 perc for pain (TMJ) I had gone to many Drs and specialists to help me with my jaw but no one really helped. I was given SOMAs but all they did was make me sleepy, didn't do much for my jaw pain. So once I was given a perc I LOVED IT! if anyone is reading this and thinking about starting or trying to get off, DON'T DO IT TO BEGIN WITH. My guy & me would get maybe four to six 10/325 percs from his mom a week, (we would split the amount) so it wasn't "that much" for each of us (then again when you don't take them often, your tolerance is lower & you feel that buzz quicker) and we always said we would never do them more than couple times a week/anymore than she gave us. (By the way, she knew why she gave them to us, she gave them first to me for pain then to both of us just to "have a little fun"..anyway, we NEVER did more than she gave & stuck to our agreement as we did not want a problem depending on them.. well he left & moved out one day while I was at work, I came home to find all of his stuff gone. As you can imagine I was devastated, and I've never been one to deal with reality well. IE: I have anxiety which I went to therapy for (prn xanax low dose) and I just internalize everything bad that happens or bothers me. So once he left, I knew that there was no more percs..which sucked cause at that moment, that is all I wanted to do. So after I picked up the pieces of my heart, canceled the wedding venue, cleaned up the apartment etc..I sought out someone(actually my cleaning lady) who I had heard her say once she was "high" so I asked her next time she came what she did & where she gets from? She was on A LOT of stuff but she did have pills and knew where to get...THAT WAS THE BEGINNING OF THE END.

Lets cut to the chase, It is now 8 months later approx & I CANNOT go a day w/o taking something, otherwise I feel sick or start to sweat chills etc...Now many of you may say well just go thru w/d and get it over with..here's the tricky part..remember how I said I internalize EVERYTHING, well..no one knows I have this problem, not family, work, friends...NO ONE..except the people I ask to see if they have or know where I can get. Every thought in my head is..am I going to run out? Where can I get? When am I going to be able to do it...So I work Monday-Friday & cannot take days off or miss..I can't go thru w/d's as I have to go to work and "be normal". I'm so sorry this is a long post, but I'm venting/asking for advice & help..this is the first time I've said ok, I'm addicted..and yet mentally I still don't think I believe it.. physically I DO! besides being scared and having bad timing for going thru w/d's...I AM SICK OF WORRYING & STRESSING WHERE TO FIND MORE, SCARED OF WHAT WILL HAPPEN & TIRED OF WASTING MONEY ON A STUPID F***IN PILL!!!! I shake my head when I think about the amount of money I have wasted..I am lucky enough to have a good job & loving family, however I could NEVER tell them what is going on with me as it would honestly rip them to pieces..I have no objection to therapy, I welcome it. I've gone to it in the past and loved it..I just actually stopped typing for a minute so I could go cut a blue in half to take it..FML, I live alone since my fiance moved out, we had 4 cats, (rescued/adopted) one passed away in March which was WORSE mentally then my guy leaving..all of these things make me want to NOT feel anymore, I am so sad. So rehab is out, as I can't take days from work & I need a weekend in order to "detox" or w/d, which again...I'm doing this solo. I realize not the best scenario but I don't know what else to do. I've never had a problem with a substance before like this..I googled Drs in my area the other day & it took my about 3 days to get the nerve to call and make an appt, but I had been reading about Suboxone and stories on the internet, etc..today is Sat, and I DID actually go yesterday afternoon to see the doc & was given a Rx for the Subs. HOWEVER the tricky part is...the w/d time prior to starting the Subs. I was told by my doc that he uses the "30 hour" rule. So (as of last night) I thought I took what was my last pill, (I was wrong) but I said to myself ok, you have until Sat night 10pm which will be 24 hrs..(Doc said after 21 hrs I would be ok to take the Subs since my pill dose was "low" for addicts. yay me ha. :( so I went until 3pm today and I couldn't do it..17 hours and I failed..I cut a tiny piece of the pill off so I wouldn't feel like poo. I must admit, compared to what I have read about w/d's..I don't think what I was feeling was super bad. Mild RLS, chills sweats DEF anxiety (and I have xanax but again, if I was trying to start Subs then my doc & I've read NOT to take BENZOs as it can cause respiratory problems as major as death in sleep, I DON'T WANT TO DIE) and I wasn't sure how long a xanie would stay in my system so I chose not to take one or two ha to help with the anxiety.

Tomorrow is Father's Day & again, I have to go somewhere & "pretend to be normal" (during these times I take the smallest, almost dust like amount to just not go into w/d's while doing what I have to do-the half pill doesn't get taken til I am home & know I don't have to go anywhere else for the night.) So here lies the problem, never mind my addiction is a problem in itself! But I CANNOT go thru w/d long enough to start Subs until 2 weekends from now! Unfortunately there's tomorrows plans & next weekend same thing, family commitment, so I only have 10 30's left and usually it's been about one and a half to two 30's a day/(mostly nighttime before bed) so in 5 days I'll be out. Obviously I am going to try my hardest to make them last at least until next weekend, so if I HAD to cancel plans I could, wouldn't be ideal but I guess it's doable. but I'd rather find more to last me until couple wkends from now & then be able to try again with w/d enough hours to start the Subs. I got a blood Rx to go get diagnostics, which I am doing this week..and I've spoken to the pharmacist about how to take the Subs..its just getting started is the problem and from what I've read...many others have had issues as well. Precipitated w/d's are a HUGE FEAR!..seems they vary in hours lasted and how bad. They scare me terribly. There's really no one I can have come over to hang with me to help keep me away from the urge & the actual 30 so I don't take it. This had been I'm sure the longestttttt post in history on here lol but it felt good to vent a little but especially since not even my friends no what it going on with me. That's the other thing about being an addict, when I say all that goes thru my head is when can I use enough to get a lil buzz..it's true. I've skipped nights out with my girls, parties, family events, beach time etc..you name it and I've come up with an excuse not to go or to try & remain home where I felt "safe" and in my "unhealed mind" me being alone, then no one can hurt me again. My boss actually is a recovering alcoholic, sober 20+ years now & she is a HUGE part of my life, not only a boss but a friend & 2nd mom (my mom lives in FL past 9 years since my parents split) and my dad lives 7 mins away from me up the road with my step mom ha. but my boss is a great lady & would probably understand what I am going thru mentally, emotionally & physically etc.. but I CANNOT let her know what's going on, I'm so ashamed, sad, alone..and many other things. She is the one person who would probably get the most what's going on but I refuse to disappoint her. There's been a few people who have said to me over the past 8 months, OH..you've changed. You seem different, I want the old you back..and I guess the "fiance moving out while I was at work" was a good 'cover' for what's been really going on with me. I am crying typing the end of this. I'm tired & buzzed since that half of a 30 has now kicked in. I've lost myself & who I was and I don't know what to do about finding me again. I guess going to the Dr was a good start, but I need to start the Subs as I think this is my only chance to get off the pills, and try to become half the person I was a long time ago..if there is ANYONE who has advice, stories, etc please share!!!!! this was the first time I've written ANYTHING like this down in black and white, it's a little scary to be honest...anyway, wish me luck trying to make it until a couple weeks from now & beginning the Subs. I hope I don't go into precipitated w/d god I am so nervous about that..if it does happen? can I take extra Subs to make it go away? How long will it last? How bad will it be? so many things going thru my mind, again I NEVER THOUGHT I WOULD BE HERE...WHAT SEEMED LIKE A LITTLE 'HARMLESS' FUN & WAS 'UNDER CONTROL' (2 TIMES WEEKLY) A COUPLE YEARS AGO...HAS NOW TOTALLY TAKEN CONTROL OVER ME & MY LIFE.

Thanks so much again. Good luck to anyone trying to do the same as me or trying to remain clean and you've already been able to get off whatever you DOC may have been...

Sincerely,
Kitty Mama.

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hey everyone, i live in north hollywood california, and i am just sick and tired of using H, i dont even know how i got on this crap! ( i do, its a long story, that started with a car accident and vicodin prescription) and now been using H for past 3 years.. can anyone please help me!??? i would love to get ahold of some suboxones.. even if i can get 3 - 4 i know i would be able to quit... i work 6 days a week and there is absolutely no way that i can do it cold turkey.. i would look like s*** and everyone would know somethings up... please please please, can someone out here please help point me in the right direction?? i have cash, but i dont think i can afford an entire script.. i dont even know where to begin??

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Hey I'm starting my detoxification today yet i have 5 2mg subs somethings for muscle relaxation throwing up anxiousness soma for sleep and I'm really scared i can't stop worrying

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Hi rush! Yes your post was extremly long, and to be honest I did not read the whole thing! But here is my question to you?? What is your current perc mg a day?? You make is sound like your taking about 10 mgs a day or 15 mgs a day?? Everyone in this post is taking about 300 mg a day of perc or dope! So you saw a doc? What did he give u for. Sub mg? How many times a day! First off! Subs seem like the best choice for you, I you are taking such a low dose of Percs you are prob getting high off the sub! But trust me that will end soon ! En of story get ur crap together befor your using dope like the rest of us! Trust me you don't want to see what we have!!

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I would say you are taking too much suboxone..I know it bothers my stomach and makes me constipated just like any narcotic will do (constipation,nauseau)..I am on 3 8 mg. strips per day, well prescribed that amount but only take 1 and a half..I was on them once before but tried my best to get off and was down to 2 mg.'s per day but I could feel the shakes, the emotion's (anger or crying) coming on, the diarhea, depression, vomiting etc. if I did not take the little 2 mg.'s.. I know that is like 1/4th of a strip..I TRULY want to be off of drugs but have been on them so long that I really dont know what life is like without them..It scares me and I want to change but the fear of being 100% clean scares me too death

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The same thing happens to me if I take my the pain pills my doctor perscribed me along with anything that makes you sleepy. Its one of the scarest things in the world and im sorry to say I have no idea what causes this to happen, but can only suggest that you take your last pain medication as early as possible that night. Taking mine 4-5 hours before I went to sleep was the only way. If I didnt take anything that made me sleepy, it wouldnt do it to me. I asked my doctor but he disnt really have an answer. Good luck finding your answer and hopefully it wont happen to us agin. No one realized just how scarey it was for me & it still scares me to go to sleep.

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You will just waste what you have taken on suboxone. I was on Suboxone for 5 years and have been off it and opioids for a year and a half. It can be done but you have to want it. Trust me, life is so much nicer without the chase to feel better.

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I have been struggling with tapering from about 60 mg of oxycodone down to 25 mg in the past week.I have 2 8ng strip of subpoena that I'd like to finish tapering off with.I just need advice on how much of the strip to take! I have been reading the threads from others but I'm just scared to take too much or too soon and feel worse than I do already.I am a mother of 4 and don't have the option to just suffer through cold turkey, being that I have so many daily responsibilities. Any help would be greatly apprecuated. I just feel like I'm making myself suffer unnecessarily with the tapering when I could just take the sub.i was thinking of taking a 1/5 if the strip to start? And how long do I wait to take more if it's not enough,? I'm so discouraged and tired of feeling horrible please help! .

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Hi Nikki n, You need to wait until your in wds before taking suboxone. Wait about 16-18hrs. Two strips aren,t gonna do much in the long run. Subs are very strong. Try a quarter of a strip (2mg) wait an hour or more and see how you feel. If you need to take 1 or 2 more mgs.
Don't eat, drink or smoke 15 min. before and after taking. Put under your tounge and don't talk. Sit quietly. Hope you get feeling better.

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Hi Nikki nik, I just replied but it said my reply needed to be reviewed so I,m gonna make this one quick. Wait 16-18hrs before taking sub or your gonna get very sick. Try 2mgs/quarter of strip. Wait an hour. If not feeling better try 1-2 more mgs. Good luck.

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I have been taking perks Vikks for about ten or more years an can't get off them an when a friend of mine had subs I tried one an it really helps but now I want off of them an have read it's hell getting off? I've only been taking a half twice a day an some times less. But will I have withdrawl? Everyone is saying it's horrible an some end up in hospital. I so scared!! Help

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Trust in yourself and be ready. Suboxone is only good, and is really a good drug, only if you need to regain mental stability first. Any opiate is easier to withdraw from then suboxone. Maybe not easier but quicker. I have been down a dark path and it can be done one way and Suboxone was for me but miserable to come of. I even worked managing a store through it. If you want it bad enough you will suffer till you reach your goal. Sorry to be so blunt but that is reality. If anyone needs help or advice I am here.

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I have been presribed 1 40mg oxycontin and 5 15 mg roxys a day for 9 months after hurting myself. My family found out and i have not been in pain for about four months. So i wanted to stop and they wanted me to stop. I waited 23 hours went to doc were he put me on one film a day. Its been 5 days and i never got sick accept the third day i got a headache from hell. I never get headaches and since then i felt normal. I am reading horrible s*** about suboxone. I feel like i went from one drug to another accept this one does not help with the pain or make me feel high. What happens if i man up and just stop? Or i was down to taking two 15 mg a day and being fine. I knew i was going to start suboxone so the week before i did like 300 mg a day ,but two weeks before that i was fine with 30 mg and if i had some help i could have probably gottrn down to !5 then percocet or vicodon. Then stopped. Im really confused right now. I like to drink but i havent this week. I never had a problem with any other drug before. Basically what im asking can i just stop? Or tom cut it into thirds and take two thirds then 1 third then none?. Please help me because after reading all i read is a bunch of people hooked on another drug!!

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well the oxy wont work because suboxone is a opiate blocker as part of your goel to get off drugs. by the way if you want to get better then why even take the oxy. you need to decide if you want to be a addict or not. you want to not use drugs. so stick with the program take suboxone as prescribed. if your doctor does a drug panel and finds oxy in your system. he or she will take you off the suboxone and will notify the state and other doctors of your not following the plan to get better. you need to make a choice. waste your life on dope. or stick with the drug recovery plan. using suboxone and popping pills will or rather could kill you. I got clean with suboxone. but I followed the plan to the letter now I am drug free and will never go back. my sister died from H overdose. I am so sick of these damn drug dealers and doctors pushing all this poison out there. I wish I could get all these drug pushers out there and well for legal purposes wont say what I would do. lets say it would not be good for these dealers. I realize your addiction is making you use the oxy and with suboxone. you need to get counseling and go to narcotic meetings. hang with better crowds of people. maybe even reading the good book can help the bible in better terms. suboxone has a drug called naloxone in it this is the opiate blocker part of the suboxone. there is a way around the naloxone part of the suboxone. however I am not going to tell you. because I want you to get better and succeed in life. I know what you are thinking. he is a a**hole perhaps I am ok with that. but I only want you to get better I would not be doing justice if I told you the way around naloxone in the suboxone. just get better. drugs will kill you or land you in prison for stealing to support your habit or vehicular manslaughter. because you were high while driving. recovery is a very hard and long painfull mentally, but it is worth it in the end. full recovery takes about 3years one day at a time. but it is possible if you want it bad enough. if you ever wish to talk you can call me. {edited for privacy}. good luck.

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