Opana 40mg Vs Oxycontin Op 80mg (Page 17)

my Dr prescribed Opana 40mg as alternative to Oxy 80 mg 2 twice a day which I would insufflate - I didn't tell him this of course. he claimed them to be just as good if not stronger can any one share about opana 40mg

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Yes my suggestion to you is stop abusing the drugs that ppl like me and a lot of other ppl actually need just to get through the day. If you want to be a junkie just go get H and blast it in your arm and I hope its bad cause its ppl like you that ruin it for ppl like me that actually need the meds and take them as prescribed. P.S. I hope to god you get caught thrown out of clinic you go to and or get caught misusing them and do not pass go,do not collect another script ever again and go directly to jail and have to detoxify cold turkey. Maybe that will open you're eyes so you can see the err of you're ways and see how you and ppl like you have ruined what little relief I did use to get but don't any more because of the anti abuse agents they are putting in everything now nullify the pain relief of the originals. Thanks a lot loser junkie.

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Hahahaha I agree I hate these junkies on here that ruin it for those or us that truly need the drugs to get around in a reasonable state of being pain free or at least taking the edge off of it so it is bearable just to walk around let alone play with our kids.

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Thank you

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I've been taking oxy 60 4x a day for 3 years now and perc10 4x a day. I stopped the perc10 but I'm wondering how do you get off the oxy?

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Dude opana are very strong probably the most strongest pill ...enjoy

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I'm not a junkie I have a disc problem and the insurance co won't cover the surgury. I'm sick of being on all this dam medicine . I go to work 5 days a week I just want to feel better without the meds.i have a family and a little girl who I would like to b around for for a long time. You people shouldn't b so fast to judge someone .

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People out there abusing drugs die....their problem. Don't make all those honestly taking their meds as prescribed going through 24/7/365 chronic pain have to suffer more because of it....

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That was an excellent post. Very well thought out spoken and expressed. But most of all; it's the total truth!!! I certainly felt the virtue behind it. Thank you!!!

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Ive run the whole gambit of pain meds. I am currently on oxy 80's er,but they are losing there effectiveness . I am considering asking my doc about changing my meds to Opana 40's. I don't know what to do,cause,the pain is getting worse. Of the two,which pain medicine is better for pain? Someone tell me if there is anything better for chronic pain.

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I have had chronic backpain since I was 15 yrs old, now 65. Oxycontin worked very well but if I missed a dose withdrawal started immed. I was in constant fear of running out and some of it was stolen a couple of times. Point is: tried Opana. side effects were itching, sudden musclar spasm [arms, legs] but the itching was horrible: scalp, legs,
back. Stopped with no problem, had been on Morphine Sulfate but not much relief. Now on Oxymorphone and seems to be working well. Would not ever recommend Oxycontin

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All of you people complain about the "junkies" screwing up your prescriptions, but the "junkies" wouldn't even be able to get them if you weren't selling them. There are no innocent parties here. Stop playing the victim.

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Sniff? Are you being silly or what? This is why there is a reason why so many people, who use their medications, as prescribed, are not getting their medications, anymore, thanks to the DEA. Do you think they won't read your comment? You are going to make it impossible for people to get this medication now, too, because you are sniffing it? Why? Are you using it for pleasure and not because of pain? Shame on you, if you are! Please, don't write anything more, you will take away any pain relief from honest, chronic pain sufferers, because of what you wrote. It wasn't meant to be "sniffed," you should be only using it, because you need it, for chronic pain, I don't believe you are suffering and are only using it for a high! It is people like you that cause the real chronic pain patients to suffer intensely, because you are using it incorrectly and don't need it.
SHAME ON YOU, for NOT TELLING YOUR DOCTOR, that you are ABUSING THE MEDICATION, He/she is giving you, believing you are suffering! Now could your doctor can loose his or her license, because of your bragging how you "Sniff it, not telling your doctor!" There are many, many people, now loosing the strong medication, opiates, the only things that help them, with their intense pain, because of people like you, drug abuser! I wish the admin of this site, would kick you off, because of your bragging. If you need to "sniff it," for whatever reasons, other than for relief from chronic pain, mostly for a "high" don't brag about it. It is hurting our cause to keep our much needed medication, that we don't abuse or misuse, because you are "Sniffing It!" Shame on you, (and that's me, not using the stronger words, I actually feel about you).

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I am so sad to see the abusers on this site. Why are you here? Bragging about the things that you do, that is illegal? All you are doing is making it hard for good folks, who deserve a pain free life, to raise their children, keep their homes, and try to live a somewhat normal life, from getting our medications, we so badly need?

For me, my story is this. I was diagnosed in high school, back in 65 with arthritis in my right knee. I was mortified as my doctor put me in modified gym, and told me that it was spreading. I was a shy and quiet, young woman, so being in that special gym class, was just more stuff for the "cool kids," to make fun of me. During the years, it did spread. Into my other knee and other places. But, that didn't stop me, I raised two children, restored old houses, made beautiful homes, gardens, canned fresh fruits and vegies, worked from home, to help my husband bring in the necessary income we needed for our kids and to keep our homes.

I rode bikes, out riding all the kids in the neighborhood, played with them all and ignored my pain, only taking OTC medications. When I was pregnant, with my second child, I learned from a different pain doctor, other than the baby doctors, that I had scoliosis of the spine. No other doctor had seen it. I was suffering, then from back pain. I was told not to lift over 25 lbs. that I would be in an wheel chair, eventually, because of the loss of use of my legs. But, I continued on, silently suffering, taking the OTC drugs, so much, just to get going, in the day, trying to be upbeat for my family, friends and others. I didn't want people to know how I was hurting.

I moved here, first from Illinois, leaving my family and an alcoholic husband, with my daughter, in 2000. I had lived in Minnesota, for 9 months, prior to here, in Arizona, but I had to move, because my daughter's allergies and the pain was spreading more in my body, affecting my work. I was still under the impression I only had osteoarthritis and the scoliosis. I thought, when I received a job offer here, it would be good for both of us, hoping the warmer climate would slow the progress of my arthritis. But, it didn't.

In 2000, while running my own business, it was becoming successful enough for me to support the two of us and live nicely, I had to close it. My assistant, who later became my fiance', saw I was on the verge of a nervous meltdown and in a lot of pain. I couldn't sleep, eat well and worked 24/7 because my clients didn't know the meaning of "deadlines." He moved me to a little cottage, he lived for free, as part of his security job on a 17 acrea estate, surrounded by a large conservancy, owned by a wealthy, young artist. He thought the peace and quiet would help me. But, after a year of living there, it became a popular place for the illegals to travel by, coming from Mexico. There were drug smugglers and people smugglers and bandits, hitting the houses along the river that backed up to the estate. The people smugglers, would get the poor into the desert, after taking all their money, clothes and belongings, leaving them there to die. They even took the diapers off the babies bottoms. It got cold enough to snow, occasionally, because my area is 4600 ft. above sea level and the cottage was in a small valley. The poor, would often come to our door, thinking the estate was a mission, frozen, starving and barely able to walk. Plus, we had to catch the bandits and prisoners, escaping from the Mexican prisons, along with the drug smugglers. Our dogs and ourselves were responsible for catching over 2,000 of these bad people in one year. It was becoming more dangerous. Yet, we gave away our clothes, what little food we had and helped heal the poor, enough for them to go back to their country, too ill to continue. That was the good part.

Our little cottage was unfinished, for the owner didn't care. We had no heat, no air conditioning and only a 20 gal. water heater. No appliances, so I bought, from the money left from my business, a heating plate and a convection oven, a small one, to cook and bake on. In the meantime, my pain continue to spread and get worse.

My fiance' took me to my doctors. I saw 13 different kinds. The very first, saw the positive ANA, in my blood sample. It was he and the first three who diagnosed me with lupus. Then, I found my primary doctor of 13 years. A very caring and kind doctor, who saw my health deteriorate while seeing her, all those years. At first, because not all my blood work showed positive ANA, she thought I had fibromyalgia, but after a few years, after going over and reading all my history again and other doctor reports, she determined I had Mixed Connective Tissue Disease and Chron's Disease, along with Crest Syndrome. This was because I had the symptoms of all three, on top of my scoliosis of my spine. Eventually, she helped me get on disability and a power chair, (for free from the Scooter Store), because I eventually could barely walk. Now, I cannot stand, walk, sit or lie for very long, not more than 5 mins., without pain. She tried all kinds of medications and sent me to a rheumatologist, that was still practicing in my town. The rheumatologist tried Lyrica, for me, but I broke out in hives. I had never seen hives, before. Then, she put me on Methotrexate. But that made me throw up, everyday. When we told her, I couldn't keep anything down, could barely eat, she said "if you can't take Methotrexate, you don't have rheumatoid arthritis." My primary couldn't believe this doctor said that. But, I wanted to go back, because I thought I could try something else, the rheumatologist suggested. However, she moved back up to Tucson which is four hours away from me. I can't travel that far. Now, there are none in our area, including no pain clinics. I guess our area isn't making enough money for specialists.

In the meantime, my doctor heard something in my chest and sent me to a cardiologist. It turns out, I have a leaky valve, too. I had a bad gall bladder, that was poisoning me, so after an emergency operation, with four surgeons taking 6 hours to just cut through the walls, before taking it out, none of which none had seen in their entire years of practice, they told me, the nurses tried to give me pain medication. But, I refused. Finally, seeing my primary again, she put me on oxycontin, then on morphine. She had to keep increasing it, because of the ever spreading and increasing pain. Also, my fiance' suddenly was diagnosed with lung cancer, stage four and was dying. I was his caregiver and with my disability money, I bought an old trailer for us to live, in what I thought was a quiet neighborhood, until my one neighbor moved in. It is in a safer place, 15 miles from the border and my daughter and I did all the moving, because my fiance' was too ill. He died a year later, despite spending the rest of the lump sum of disability money, I had gotten, buying everything and anything to save his life. Now, I have taken my ex-husband, off the streets, because he is blind and destitute. Our daughter got sick of caring for him and threw him out to the streets. She is no help to us now. We have no one and he has no one that cares about him, any more.

My primary suddenly stopped her practice. Another doctor, an internist, was given to me, but after a year, she disappeared too, while she was putting me on Buprenorphine, trying to get me off the morphine. She felt the morphine was not doing its job any more, my body had gotten used to it. So she wanted to try another new medication, if the buprenorphine didn't help. However, the DEA and the head of the clinic had other plans. The head of the clinic, another doctor, decided to take me off the buprenorphine, suddenly, without telling me. When I went to refill the second of three more refills, I found out from the pharmacy that I couldn't get it anymore. Being completely out, I called the clinic, who never bothered to tell me my doctor was no more and the head of the clinic said she didn't want me on it anymore. She put me back on the morphine, even though I was off of it for four months. Then she sent me to a male doctor, who never examined me, watched the clock the short time, he saw me, not listening to me. He looked at me as if I was a drug addict and gave me another script of morphine, which I refuse to fill now. He told me when I was "weaned" off the morphine, I was only to take over the counter pills for my pain! Then, he "dismissed" me. I will not go back to him again. He claimed he had read my history, but if he had, telling me my blood samples were negative for ANA, which everyone knows it doesn't always show that way. As written by doctors at the Mayo clinic, on their website and by other doctors on their websites. If this man, this last doctor, who only saw me for, not even 10 minutes, had read my history, he would had seen I hadn't had a blood analysis in two years! Plus he would have seen I did have positive results in the past. He said there was nothing wrong with me and it was all in my head.

So, I've tried calling a few doctors, some of the ladies, on my street, go to because they have fibromyalgia, but those doctors refuse to see chronic pain patients, anymore, suddenly changing their minds. I know it is because of the DEA, putting pressure on the doctors, pharmacies, insurances, (although mine still pays for the morphine, as it is much cheaper than the buprenorphine), and the medicine manufacturers who are honestly making the medicines, not making it for the cartels and junkies. So, now, I am trying to find a doctor who will see me.

My pharmacy, plus their delivery man, (I can't drive there to get my prescriptions), and another friend, told me about a wonderful, lady doctor, who has opened her practice, at the University of Arizona's new clinic, within walking distance from my house, (if I could walk). But, she's not taking new patients, trying to wrap up the ones from her old practice and settling into the new one, until July. I am praying, every night she won't refuse to see me. Otherwise, the other doctors, in this town, won't help me, just like the man doctor, I saw only once. They are too afraid of loosing their licenses, thanks to the DEA and I read that most won't see chronic pain patients, because they don't know how to treat them. If this doctor doesn't want to see me, I guess I will just die. But, who will take care of my blind, ex husband, which I am trying to get him on disability? There is no one. No one to help us.

With all this written, I do understand the chronic pain patients are having, getting their medications, to help relieve some of their pain, finding doctors and hospitals that will help them. All thanks to the junkies, cartels and DEA and some government people, who have no clue what suffering from chronic pain is like. They don't have any medical backgrounds or understand, that because some of us don't look or act sick, in public, it doesn't mean we aren't suffering terribly. Just because we don't have cancer, doesn't mean we aren't suffering as much if not more. I took care of my dad, who died of alzheimer's and cancer and my fiance' who passed away from lung cancer. I know their pain, yet they didn't suffer much, for they were able to enjoy life, right up to the end. My fiance', winked at me, on his dying bed, smiling and telling me it was okay. I was happy neither didn't suffer as much as I am now. They were never in a wheel chair and had someone to care for them. I wish I did, now. I don't want to die alone. I would love to have another in my life, to love, but my life is basically over. Yet, I remain positive and keep a happy face, around my ex-husband and people who see me, from the outside. I try to do as much as I can, when I am able. But when I just cook dinner, I am hurting until the next afternoon, when my one pill, only a 60mg/day, down from the described 180mgs/day, the last doctor prescribed, is time to take. I have cut myself down, in hopes of getting off of it, before I see the new doctor, so she doesn't use that for an excuse not to see me. I am hoping, because she is with the UofA, that she will be able to help me more.

That is my story, it is unlike others who are suffering so much. May GOD Bless you all, who are trying to live their lives, as best as they can, with the horrible suffering you are going through. I have you all in my prayers and when I get the petition written, I hope all will come and sign it, making the DEA and the government people allow us to get our pain medications, not thinking we are all junkies and realize, "We the People," 100+million of us, who are suffering terribly, have a right to live a humane life, with the liberty to not suffer any more.....

Always!

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I love all the comments on here of the "real pain sufferers" against all the "junkies". All the pain meds you people are taking you are addicted too. I don't want to hear you "hate" the pills cuz it just ain't true. you don't like the feeling? You are no different and when you run out and are ill don't tell me you are not addicted. I have legitimate pain issues. Very bad ones that make me basically a prisoner in my home, but if I insufflate a few of my pills I'm an addict/junkie? You run out of your medication and lay in bed ill out of your mind and someone stops by with A pill of H which will make you better in 30seconds let's see how long you wait. Judgemental doesn't Begin to describe you guys. Where do you think most H addicts come from? Pill takers. "There but for the grace of God goes I" Be grateful you haven't gotten to that point. Opiate addicts are all the same whether you take them legitimately or not. Everyone is physically addicted. You "legitimate" pain people probably feel higher then the "junkies", all they are doing is staying well, ask any addict and they'll tell you they spend all that money to feel normal. #compassion

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sickofjudgementalfools,
You are completely wrong about Chronic Pain Patients. I, for one, never believed in taking drugs, drinking alcohol and such. I hate taking pills. But, when one is in such pain, they can't take care of a blind man, cook, do laundry, shower, brush their teeth, or even put on clothes, without such terrifying and horrific pain, we are not given a choice. My doctor put me on what I was taking. I didn't ask for it, I didn't know the condition I was in, the prognosis, until she told me. I never heard of these medications before. But after her and my other primary, plus 12 other doctors, trying everything on me, with no relief, stuck in a wheel chair and then bed, the only alternative was the medications, they are giving me. NOT DRUGS FOR DRUG ADDICTS!

Chronic pain patients, particularly myself, do not get any "highs" on our medications. It goes straight to helping our pain. My mind isn't in any euphoria, it isn't enjoying the medications, my body is. I am able to take care of a blind & destitute man, who would otherwise be on the streets. He needs complete care. I am able to grocery shop, cook, clean the house, take a shower and brush my teeth! Yes, I even can bend enough to put on some socks. As far as my brain, I am still the way I was, before getting on the medication. I can pay bills, spell correctly and write well enough. A drug addict can't do this. A drug addict only lies around, in a "High" all the time, doing nothing, but stealing money, where ever he/she can to get her "Highs!"

My medications are closely monitored, by the doctors, the pharmacies, the insurance companies, the manufacturers, (the honest ones). I can't take advantage of my medications, like a drug addict can, I have to follow the directions, because I simply want to. I don't want to be a drug addict, so when I am following these directions, sometimes, I may miss a pill, during the day. That, right there, explains that I am not a drug addict. Right now, I cut myself down, from my strong pain medication, from 300 mgs/day, to only 30 mgs/day. Tell me, can a drug addict do this? NO! Not without going into rehab or being hospitalized. So, again, this proves Chronic Pain Patients are NOT DRUG ADDICTS! Yes, if the government and the DEA suddenly make our doctors, our pharmacies, our insurance, stop helping us, we will end up in more pain, but not from the pain of the withdrawals, for those are a piece of cake, compared to our pain we will be suffering more! So, you don't know what you are talking about, you are not a Chronic Pain Patient, you do not suffer. For if you did, you wouldn't write the nasty post, you just did. You are a normal person, with no pain at all and you need to get off this thread. It's people like you that are making us suffer, so much more.

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You don't k ow me. I do suffer and the reason I wrote "the nasty post" was to show you how judgemental you are being. You talk about doing dishes and laundry, I can't take a shower without help. I'm imaging doing laundry right now and would love to but I can't stand for longer then 3 minutes without horrifying pain, so if you want to compare horror stories I can go all day. What I was trying to get across to you was to have some compassion. You admitted yourself you know nothing about addiction, and pills and drugs. Addiction and alcoholism is a disease. No one chooses to be an addict. Drug addicts dont lay in bed all day high. Drug addicts are your teachers,lawyers,friends,Drs ,nurses and waitresses. They come from all walks of life and most times are "functioning" addicts. Yes even if you have pain you still get a rush with the pills. At first, but then it stops and you don't feel it anymore. If you don't you are different because even my 80 year old father who never took anything more then a Tylenol in his life told me "wow that pill screwed me up a little" after surgery. The drug addicts that do opiates on a daily basis are not getting high, they are getting well. They feel no euphoric effects. They are simple doing it to feel normal. Can you imagine the insanity of that? Spending 100+ dollars a day just so you aren't sick? And yes they get off the drugs and turn around and do it again , that's the insanity of addiction. Be grateful you are only physically addicted and not mentally. Instead of judging everyone why don't you try to help someone? I take my pills as prescribed and if once in a while I take a little extra to try to feel something that's my business. Am I addicted? Oh definitely, go through withdrawal once and you'll understand. Good for you that you cut down on your pills, I have no desire to be in pain. So I won't. I do apologize if I offended you, I was just angry. I hope you are able to get help with your pain and able to feel better.

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Listen, I am in the same boat as you. I can't even brush my teeth, let alone doing any other things, plus, I am trying to care for a blind person, who has no one else to help him. The only part, where you write, you are inhaling the medication, is the very reason why the DEA and others are thinking we are drug abusers. You need to take it as prescribed. Not insufflate it. Then, you will feel a "high," like the normals and the DEA, etc. will think. They WILL consider that as your being a drug abuser, which is hurting all of us, including you. If you are in the pain you state you are in, then I apologize for being so hard on you. I am in the very same way. But, please, if you are insufflating, not telling your doctor about it, then keep it to yourself. They are watching, all of these sites, including your posts. This will give them more fuel, to add to their "War on Drugs!" No, I'm not being judgemental, just shocked you would write such a thing, admitting it, in public. Please, write no more, do not write how you are taking your medication, when it isn't prescribed that way. It is making it hard, for people like, myself, like all of us, to see our doctors, get our medications, because they will all think, like the last jerk doctor, I saw, that we are druggies, lying around "high", for recreational purposes, and not really ill at all! I am not high on my medication. The only reason I am getting off of something that has really, really helped my pain, but still enable me to do normal things, well, not all things, but better than I am now, is because a new doctor won't see me. He/she will think they will loose their license, if they have a patient on the medication I am trying to get off of. Also note, I am doing this myself. I did not fill the last prescription, given to me by the jerk doctor. This proves I am not a druggie. Maybe you need posts from other Chronic pain sites, see all the sufferings out there, because of the "War on Drugs," how nothing else has worked for most of us, out here. I've done and gone through everything that needed to be done, I can't even be touched, wear certain clothing, for my body is so sensitive to pain. I can't even fold my hands in prayer, or get a hug, I so badly want. It is because of my diseases that makes this happen. I didn't ask for it. But, I am not a person who insufflates, uses or abuses what little relief I have gotten. All I want is for you to keep your secret, your insufflating, to yourself. It is the very thing they are looking for, to keep us from getting the help we need. I hope you will find some relief, if there is any out there. I know I won't, for again, I've tried everything.

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ChronicPainGirl,
Here, here, on your frank post. I am happy you said what you said about telling the others to, (well, you know), about not understanding that we are not drug abusers! You said what I can't say. I am also happy that opana is working for you. I hope, if I get a new doctor, I want, in July, she will prescribe that for me. I am taking myself off my current dose of morphine, myself. It is very hard, painful and my heart is being badly affected, because I have a leaky heart valve and the pain, in my body is too much, raising my heart rate and making it unstable. I hope the new doctor will prescribe the opana for me, since you say it is working for you. Thank you for your post. I wish you well...
Always!

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Alright Marriane you are right. I guess I just get angry sometimes and speak (or write) without thinking. I honestly don't inhale the pills. I did a long time ago and then read something on the internet that scared me and I haven't since. I just have a soft spot for addicts because of different family members. And I just get get very defensive. I don't feel like I abuse my medicine but I guess you are right if I take more then prescribed I am. I don't feel like I do. I hate being in pain a n d just wish it would stop. I know that the pill heads do make it hard for everyone including me.I have more of a problem with the people who sell them because the addicts are just being addicts but the people who are selling the pills are just greedy. I originally came to this site because a UA came back positive for a drug I've never ever taken. I was taking 4 30 mg of oxycodone a day and now until my drug results comes back from the lab she gave 3 10 mg oxycodones a day. Now I'm really in pain and sick. Probably why I'm grumpy :) I just wish I could be without medication, and that's for real. I have children and can't go anywhere with them. But hopefully one day things will change. Again I apologize for being rude, it really wasn't my intention.

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It's perfectly okay, pain makes us do things we wish we couldn't, such as changing our personalities. I get upset, myself, because I'm a type "A" personality, always in charge of everything. Now, I am helpless and it is not a good feeling. Plus, to add to my misery it is 103 degrees here, where I live. This isn't normal, but I fear the "Greenhouse Effect" is happening much faster than they first believed. I am not heat tolerant, so my whole body is suffering and I can't eat or sleep. I just wish the folks who are taking away our medications, would feel just a little of what we are all going through.
Please, take care of yourself, and hopefully, you will find another doctor who is more understanding and caring and will find something that will help with your suffering.
I have you in my prayers...
Always!

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