Methadone Withdrawal Support

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I would like to know the best over the counter med to help with my methadone withdrawals and pain. I have little money no insurance and hurt like never before. I'm determined to be 100% clean.

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I hate to tell you this but nothing will stop your withdrawals from methadone. The only thing that may help you is ibuprofen for the fevers. I went to a physicians assistant who prescribed me gabapentin (which i am alergic to)and clonidine which only lowers your blood pressure. I am on 18 days without methadone 80mgs a day or more depending on the day and the withdrawals the first week and a half are pure hell!.... I'm feeling better in some ways but still feel paralyzed with fear whenever I have to go somewhere. Work has been extremely difficult. Nobody to take care of me financially or I'd be sitting here in a ball waiting for disability to come thru. I'm so sorry you have to go thru this. Good luck!!! You'll need it!!

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I'm detoxing off methadone right now and although it's true nothing will take them away 100% there is a few things that will help. Allergy pills( benadrl) for the running nose, ibuprofen for pain, Xanax for anxiety, gabapentin helps a lot also. Anti diarrhea pills help and muscle relaxers for leg twitching. I've bought some extra dones to help as well. About 1/2 every other day until you get down to nothing then 1/4 1/8 etc. Methadone tablets are cheap. I wish you the best.

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Oh sweety IM SO SORRY! !!! I KNOW IT'S HELL AND THEN SOME!!! I'm going through similar & unfortunately all I can recommend is to go down AS SLOW AS U POSSIBLY CAN!!! And my clinic told me 2,000mg of oyster shell calcium should help help w the muscle aches. If u need to talk im here {edited for privacy}

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Really? Oyster shell calcium? Never heard that. Glad to know there's something else out there to help. Thanks for the tip. I'm going down 2 mgs a day, no choice. And it's very unpleasant to say the least. I'm almost off now but I've been supplementing about 15 mgs a week. Any advice beside what I already know would be appreciated.

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Hi Jessup, again im sorry and I feel for u! I think we both could use some support from someone who knows what we r going thru!! I am going down 10mgs a week, its HELL!!! I have an info sheet from my clinic about coming off methadone that I wish I could get to u. AND I SWEAR ON MY MOMMA'S GRAVE-REST HER SOUL-I AM NOT SOME CRAZY PERSON W/ ANY AGENDA. ID LIKE TO HELP & SUPPORT U IF I CAN, EVEN THO I DON'T KNOW UR STORY. BUT I KNOW WHAT IT'S LIKE HAVING NO SUPPORT! MY MOM WAS MINE TIL SHE PASSED ABOUT 3YRS AGO & IT STILL FEELS LIKE YESTERDAY. GOOD LUCK AND WHETHER WE SPEAK OR NOT YOU ALWAYS HAVE ME IN YOUR CORNER & U ARE NOT ALONE!!! {edited for privacy}

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Yes to "nottoosmarttobefooled", im comin off of methadone too. 10mgs/week and yes its HELL. However I have a sheet from my clinic about "withdrawal from methadone" which I wish I could get to u! It says "in general u shouldn't decrease by any more than 3-5% of ur dose each week giving urself at least 10-14 days between decreases for your body to adjust. The jist is 'the slower the better' & towards the end of W/D u may want to do 1mg decreases every 2 weeks. LISTEN TO UR BODY THO AND HOW U FEEL AS WHAT I JUST SAID IS ONLY A GENERAL GUIDELINE. IF U NEED TO ALTER IT TO HOW UR BODY & MIND FEEL IT'S OK!!!! ALSO, it says u should take a multi vitamin and AT LEAST 2,000MGS OYSTER SHELL CALCIUM/DAY which it says will help w muscles cramps joint aches & irritability. Also says, take a B-COMPLEX PLUS C, & ADDITIONAL C (as much as 5gms and up. This helps the body adjust in general to the decreases in dose". All that was basically verbatim & keep in mind that all I told u was some of what the sheet says altho I do 100% agree w/ "the slower the better". I agree from my own experiences as I have been thru W/D more times then there are probably leaves on my big ass tree lol!!

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@Disturburd please read my post. I could use the help

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Hi "nottoosmarttobefooled" I did read them both (the one where u explained ur W/D from methadone& the 1 where u said oyster shell calcium, really?) If theres more I did not see cuz im on a tablet. I wish we could actually talk to each other as im all thumbs w computers but they dont let u put contact info up. but my 1 post I put up "to jessup..." may help u too and REMEMBER U R NOT ALONE, IM SORRY U R GOING THRU THIS, CUZ SO AM I SO I KNOW FIRSTHAND IT SUCKS! BUT U WILL GET THRU IT &IF U HAVE ANY IDEAS HOW WE COULD GET IN TOUCH, IF U WANTED TO OF COURSE, PLEASE LET ME KNOW

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Hi again, im sorry the post I said I addressed to jessup I addressed to u"fooled..." and I agree w ur meds for the side effects n pain but like I saidTHE SLOWER U CAN GO DOWN THE BETTER! AND THE MMORE TIME U CAN GIVE BETWEEN DECREASES THE BETTER!! And all who reads these must understand that I AM NOT a doctor at all but the info I know is just thru MANY personal experiences and many try an try agains!

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Disturbed, ty for the response. I'm on 9 mgs at the clinic and subsidize 15 mg at home. I'll be off the clinic in 4 days any suggestions as to how to wean off the 15mgs would be greatly appreciated.

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Hey "fooled" - Np, anything I can do to help u! But as my clinic doc just told me that when u get down to that low go even slower. What I would do is try 2mgs/day for cpl days (altho either i missed or u didnt mention ur current dose) go to 1mg and u could even split dose if its too rough meaning take half the dose and then either an equal time later or when u cant handle it no more then take the other half, make sense? & when ur down to only 7-8mgs left try to dose every other day if u can cuz the stuff does stay in ur body for roughly 24-36hrs. But LISTEN TO UR BODY N HOW U FEEL-THAT WILL TELL U WHAT'S BEST!! But yes unfortunately u will probably have major discomfort and some sleepless nights-hell yes it sucks I've dealt w/ it many times. As far as natural s*** for sleep try a high dose of melatonin or valerian-like 2-4x higher than the normal dose, it wont hurt u but it's helped me. Not sure if you know or not but the ingredient in benadryl is the EXACT SAME as what they use in tylenol pm- it's called diphenhydramine and i've taken as much as 350mgs & it does give me a sense of "calm" & if ur wanting to sleep make sure ur in bed, don't try to stay awake thru it cuz then its harder to fall sleep & something else that's very important is I didn't just start at 350mgs, I think I tried like 150 at 1st & it does take a good hour or so to kick in but as soon as u feel it try to go to sleep!! Trust me on this! Gosh I wish I had more info for u or could help more!!!! ALWAYS REMEMBER U R NOT ALONE AND I KNOW UR STRONG AND CAN DO THIS!!!! ANYMORE QUESTIONS OR JUST WANNA TALK PLEASE RESPOND ANYTIME AS MY SLEEP HRS VARY AND I'M IN CHICAGO AND ITS 1:20PM NOW. I REALLY WISH U ALL THE LUCK IN THE WORLD AND HOPE EVEN 1 THING I SAID HELPS U! KEEP IN TOUCH!!!!!

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ALSO "FOOLED", BE VERY VERY CAREFUL W/ THE XANAX AS I'M COMING OFF THAT TOO & IF U DON'T ALREADY KNOW IT'S VERY EASILY ADDICTIVE AND HELL IS AN UNDERSTATEMENT WHEN COMING OFF THAT! I'D HONESTLY RATHER BE DEAD OR COMING OFF EVERY OTHER DRUG TOGETHER, NO BULLS*** -PLEASE PLEASE TAKE THAT SO SERIOUSLY!!!

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Disturbed, definitely NOT coming off Xanax. Been there done that. I was hallucinating and everything! Ty though

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I feel your pain. I have used Benedryl and Valium to help get off of Xanax. I only had Valium for a little while and then m doctor prescribed Buspar for anxiety. I can't say that helped alot, but perhaps some and any little bit helps. The Valium definitely helped, as does the Benedryl. Best of luck to you. I'll keep you in my prayers.

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Please try kratom. You can buy it at Kraken kratom. I stopped at 60 mg using this plant. It saved my life.

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Kratom is about to be put on the schedule 1 controlled substances in the US on September 10th. So, the only other OTC option is IMMODIUM LOPERAMIDE 2MG TABS. LOPERAMIDE IN THE IMMODIUM IS A MILD OPIOID AND EASES WITHDRAWAL SYMPTOMS. GOOGLE IT. NOT TELLING ANYONE TO TRY IT. JUST WHAT I HAD TO USE IN THE PAST.

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Methadone not cheap where I'm from! Where are you? I'm on 120 MLG and I'm told the best thing to do is cut your dose slowly, don't go cold turkey if you don't have to.

If you must, you definitely want to try to get a quit kit" some city clinics give them away, they have Benadryl and Tylenol and anti diarrhea medicine, a doctor should prescribe you clonadine for your blood pressure and anxiety mess like Ativan Klonopin or xanax will really help but are highly addictive themselves so only take for a few days

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Mrs BMW I doubt your going to see this but if u do i was wondering how your doing now and if u made it thru withdrawals. Cause I just start methadone and now wondering if I should get the hell off it now.

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No substitute over the counter. You cannot cut corners!! All of you listen and save yourselves some nightmarish days and nights.
Subutex to Suboxone
Methadone taper
Other opiate taper
That's it.

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I feel so bad for you, but this too shall pass. Albeit very slowly for you. Do yourself a favor try to tough it out. Don't substitute one pill for another. Our feelings demand to be felt. I was on 9 10mg of methadone a day. My husband freaked out and threw them away. Boom I was on the floor in a motel bathroom. Physically sick, methadone has a long half life so withdrawals last weeks, but soon you will feel better,then better still, and learn to read up on anything a Dr. gives you. I was on Methadone for 6 years for pain. Withdrawing from it was the best thing I have ever done. You can do it!

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Re: Luisa (# 19) Expand Referenced Message

Tapering off the opioids is so much better than using Suboxone or methadone because you will someday have to come off of that and it takes like a month instead of less than a week if you were just to withdraw from the opioids.

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Re: myst7 (# 27) Expand Referenced Message

Yep, and I recommend some thing for sleep for the third night. That was the worst for me. Magnesium also helps you just have to be careful not to take too much or you will get diarrhea

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Re: RAMSEY (# 32) Expand Referenced Message

I don’t think Kratom is strong enough to make a difference.
Immodium AD should help.
What did you think of that bladder medication? I took it for an overactive bladder and it made my bladder ache so badly. It worked great for the excessive urination, but my God the pain. Lol I couldn’t take it. I even tried cutting it in half, oh my God the pain.
Magnesium may help the sweating/anxiety just be careful because it also will give you diarrhea if you take too much.
Have you tried the Imodium A.D. though? Be careful, don’t overdo it, but that’s a game changer

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Re: EvolWorld (# 34) Expand Referenced Message

First of all, there are a few states that did not expand Medicaid so people don’t get insurance just because they are poor and they need it. I assume that’s the case for this person or why wouldn’t they.

Second, I think you are incorrect about not getting withdrawals from this medication. I didn’t use methadone, but I used Suboxone because my doctor told me I could get off long-term pain medication and avoid withdrawals by using Suboxone. That was a huge lie. I slowly tapered it down over six months like he suggested, by the time I stopped taking it I was taking it like an eighth of a 2 mg or maybe 4 mg tablet. So I thought it would be no big deal to stop. I had withdrawals for like a month it was pretty uncomfortable. Later on in life when I required long-term pain medication again, I decided to just wean off of that and stop taking that when it was time. The withdrawals were totally gone in a week, the third night was the worst and after that it was pretty much fine.

Like I said, I’ve never tried methadone. And also I was just using the Suboxone to come off prescription medication that I was taking as directed, maybe it’s worth it if someone is abusing something hard-core but if someone is just trying to get off pain medication I would recommend skipping the methadone or Suboxone and just weaning off the pain meds. You’ll save yourself weeks of withdrawal symptoms Seriously.

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Why not apply for state insurance so you can go to the clinic? This medication is meant to be tapered off. Extremely slowly. At 1 to 2 mg per week, not any faster. If you try to go any faster, you will be miserable for weeks. If you follow this speed, you won't feel any withdrawal. If you have no money, you should qualify for state insurance just fine. No one should be without insurance. At this point, it's pretty much required in this country now. And it's only about $80 a week. Speak to a local charity or church. Many of them will help pay for that, but they will pay it directly. They won't give you the money. So if you want the withdrawal to go away, you need to go take more methadone. Nothing else is gonna do it. And you're not gonna be able to function at a job or school or take care of your family or do anything for several weeks if you stop going from a higher dose of methadone. Because it's not meant to be stopped that way. Go hustle at eighty, go pay the clinic week to week and taper off properly or stay on it. The medication has no negative long-term effects, health wise.

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I'm on 33mg Methadone with 6 carries. This last week has me in full-on withdrawal. I noticed today that I had some restless legs then heart pounding, cold sweats, cold hands/feet...ALL OF IT. Finally I went to my pharmacy to discuss my situation and I'm visibly in agony. I still had 2 sealed bottles and was really just wanting them to redo the 2 in case the dose indeed was made incorrectly. "We all know their first thoughts" so I knew ahead of time for it to be a NO. But I'm visibly in major wd's. Just as I thought, they said, "it can't be wrong, the machine calibrates it for us". They wouldn't hear of me questioning anymore and said maybe go to the hospital. Anyone else know their juice has been made incorrectly and just made out to look like a liar? NOT fun when in full wd's. In 3 years on this program, this is the very first time this happened.
What can I do? I never want to have this happen ever again.

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Hey everyone, I am trying to come off green liquid Methadone, the liquid handcuffs. So my question is, how do I come off it with as little pain and sweating as possible? I keep meaning to come off it but I keep on getting takeaways and even dipping into them too. Because I've got a strong mind, I can go a day without it anyway. I heard of a drug that's meant to be for your bladder called Oxybutynin but it also stops the sweating, plus I found a site that would finally send me Kratom to take instead of Methadone but I was still sick. Is that normal or did I get scammed with fake Kratom?

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I'm 63 yrs of age. I have been on methadone for thirty years. How safe would it be for me to get off methadone?

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Re: Ghost in the Well (# 28) Expand Referenced Message

Now I'm at 1.25mg/day.

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It’s going to be a very rough withdrawal and it’ll last a month or two.. it’s not fun! Good Luck!!

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