Just Want To Take Suboxone For A Few Days To Detox From Heroin Will It Work (Page 8)

hey guys, i have been taking dilaudid for about 5 months 4,8mg a day then switched to heroin for 1 month 2 bags a day,now my friend gave me 4,8mg suboxones and told me it would help me get off h for good, i waited 24 hours took half a subox and i must say it works for wd's but when i run out witch i estimate will be in 2,3 days will i just suffer again;like where i left off or will the h be out of my system and the wd's light enough to withstand, please help, im not a newbee to drug abuse had bad h habits in the past and know the nature of the beast, just want this stuff out of my life so i can go back to work and live again, i need the truth or as close as i can get, can i beat it like this or am i wasting my time,maybe i can get one or two more subs from my freind

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I took 1 8miligram sub about 18 hours after my last high and didnt have any major wds the next day i took 4 miligrams and still feel ok,this morning i took another half and so far so good,this is my third day clean which is usually the toughest for me but i was able to go to work all day,tomorrow im cutting it down to a quarter to see how that works,im hoping it does the trick,ile let you know how i make out.good luck to all hope this helps at least one person. Peace

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Hey all, just got through reading the entire thread. I hope what I am about to write rings a bell with someone or at least gives someone some place to start with the process of getting off opiates, whatever they may be (I have been on them all, for years, from smoking to shooting, amidst being able to also quit addictions to alcohol and cocaine). Of course it is 2 in the morning and I have 2 midterms tomorrow which I should have been studying for but ive spent the past week doing other things completely shady and unprogressive just to score enough just to keep that sickness at bay. Well, I am going to start my detox this weekend, given I have only 3 days until my next round of tests and papers due. Look, suboxone withdrawal after taking upwards of 24 mg a day is the worst, besides siezuring and flatlining after cold turkeying off of 120 mg a day methodone 2 year habit. Wait 24 hours if you can to take the first sub. Usually one 8mg is enough for the next 24 hours, but you may need an extra quarter or half 12 hours later. Day two take no more than a whole one. Even for day three. Day four, a third or a half if you can manage. Day five a half, and day 6. Day 7, a quarter, and day 8 a quarter (optional). That should the longest detox using suboxone. I have gotten sober for a couple months before and literally haven't slept for a month straight, nor been able to eat more than a tub of ice cream or a bowl of cereal a day. Plus, all this leg trembling and nausea stuff is alien to me. My w/d means me crawling on the floor puking up blood and going in and out of consciousness almost, delirious from lack of sleep and all the s*** my body (and mind especially) are going through. my point is, you will need some sort of benzo to alleviate the anxiety during the first 4 or 5 days of detoxing. no more than say two xanny's a day. after the week or so of detoxing you will have minor physical symptoms, but the mental part is the real deal. exercise. FORCE yourself to get out of bed. To do everything exactly that you don't wanna do, but know you have to do. if that means going on walks and eventually when you are at what, 25 percent (yea I only felt 50 percent normal after being 6 months sober) go and try to find a simple part time job. If the whole 12 step meeting thing works, do it. outpatient can be helpful (ive also been to rehab over 7 times). To make something out of this late night rant, the subs will help. Listen to those proposing the week long schedule. usually about 5 or 6 subs is all you need. For you hard cores, get 10 or so xannys or valiums, you will need them. After that, you're on your own. find something, anything, that gives you that tiny, itty bitty little sense of satisfaction whilst sober, and hang on to that. it'll lead to better things. and don't be afraid to admit your situation to family or friends who are close, and who you know will be looking out for you and your best interests. the easiest way to relapse is isolation, being alone, stuck with that devil in your head that will be with you until the day you die. Just do the right thing, what you have to do, not what you want to do. eventually, what you want to do will be that right thing. god bless and good luck. life is so goddam precious, and there are people along the way who are still thinking about you, so don't forget about them either. cheers and good night

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Ive been using about a 100$ worth or more of h a day for about 8 months this time around.ive been thru this and was on methadone for 2 years.it was hell.i tried kicking 4 times and couldnt do it.anyways ive lost my job and probably for best i cant support my habit.i have 3 suboxone strips...ive heard wonders about suboxone but after reading this im terrified.dont want my family to know because i will be out on the street.i havent used for about 8 hrs and was going to wait atleast 12 hrs.i just need to know whats the best way...please help.im so sick of this.my friends are all dying and going to prison.i want my life back

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U say that na is bulls*** but what u dont understand is that its not working because you obviously aren't ready. That program only works for people who really want it and is willing to do step work get a sponser go to meetings everyday putting your self in uncomfortable situations so u can get past the fear of letting people in. U have to literally make na ur life. U have to be completely committed to the life style. If you dont do the thing they suggest u to do then yes it wont work. I notice that when I start to get too comfortable and get back into my old destructive ways and try to do it my way ill relapse. Your relapse always happens before u actually pick up the drug. When u start to lie or steal or isolate yourself and stop going to meetings or what ever u used to do when u were using u will end up using. U need to stay honest with your self and others. U need to call someone when u feel u want to use. U need to put ur self in uncomfortable situations in order to over come that fear. Fear tends to drive an addict to use because they dont want to feel uncomfortable. But its ok to feel thats what makes u who u r. And if u dont work ur steps ur not going to figure out who u really r and what usually triggers u to use. It helps u to become a better person. And its sad that just because u had a bad experience because u were not truly dedicated to the program to show it really works.. that u have to tell other people it doesnt work and make them feel like there is no hope. U have to chase ur recovery just as hard as u chased the drug.Athe reason u felt like an outsider ehen u went to meetings is because u didnt keep an open mind.. all these people used to be where u r or even worse then u and they foumd a better way to live. If u honestly surrendered and gave it ur all and followed the suggestions for 1 month I bet u wouldnt want to go back to where u r now. Na works for the people that want it bad enough. Good luck there is hope as long as u have the faith and the drive to want to do it!

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I completely agree with your NA comment its just not for everyone. I understand the concept if wanting to not feel alone with your addiction and knowing there's other people out there going through the same thing as you. But I already know that and I haven't been able to relate to these horrible rock bottom stories a lot of participants in NA have. Also the people who I've seen that had most succes with NA just use it as a substitute. They all seemed worried if they miss a day there gonna go straight back to using and I don't think that's a solution. If it works for you great but, it's definetly not my cup of tea

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When do i take the.suboxin strip? im experiencing hot.n cold withdraws from herion..should i take a piece of the suboxin now?

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How long has it been? I usually wait till I'm about to throw up.

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everything you said is 100% correct. ive read a lot of drug forums just for fun but never seen a post that everything was right...just wanted to let you know someone out here acknowledges your advice even though I wasn't looking for advice personally....

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I had similar usage and for me yea the withdrawls are lighter and easier using a 3-4 sub taper.

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Take your subs and flush out your system, subs are intended to be a detox drug not long term... there good for depression and alot of other things not just detox meds.

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people usually don't steal, lie, drive to obtain drugs, on subs, it is a little different I would say. It gives people a chance to get control of their life. Long term sub use on the other hand is not good. it really works with start low-out quick and you must make lifestyle changes or it won't work

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I totally agree if u need maintenance then use it. Wd is hard I've gone cold from oxy n from h. The h put me in the hospital. Then I went back to it again even after all that pain I went through this time I'm using subs day four I feel great n I'm not upping my hospital bill. It was a horrible comment Hanna made I don't wish addition on anyone n any way u can get better do it. I don't beleave in AA either my step father went to meetings drunk n higher powers rnt gonna take the straw or needle from u only u can do that

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agree, NA works for some but they tout success and omit the failures. There are users still active in NA meetings, there are people looking to exploit others, hookups that lead to relapse, etc. Also if your personality is such that your sick of drugs and everything to do with them then NA is not the place. Unless you want to hear drug war stories every day. Its an answer for some, usually those who have failed at every attempt, NA is the last resort not the first.

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save your subs till you want to quit. subs don't change your desire to use just help with withdrawals. you probably need to seek professional help

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sorry to tell you pat but their right! how are you clean when your still taking methadone? being clean means you dont have to take any kind of pill to get through the day. methadone is meant to be used to start at a certain dose and then taper down until your not taking it anymore. if you stay on the drug, then your never clean!! its meant to be used to get off of it eventually. im not judging but you cant say your clean when your still on methadone. plain and simple. its not na bulls*** as you like to say. getting clean is just that, meaning you shouldnt have to take a drug daily to live.

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i seems like most of these posts are old. isnt there any somewhere for 2013.. 2014

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Hi Zany, I know what you mean. Problem is that a lot of folks don,t start there own post and just kind of jump in if the subject matter is similar. Problem with that is a lot of people don,t read it and they can,t help.
Another problem is they list the oldest replies first. If you look up top under original post on this page you will see (sort by oldest post first or newest post first) click newest post first and you,ll see what I mean.

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Im right w ya on that Pat..people shouldnt judge. Im a full time student n work full time. Im.addicted to diludid, iv..have been for years. I go to these sights to look for inspiration n hear others stories about how they overcame. If i wanted to hear N.A. bs id go to a mtg. Im on day 2 of no opiates, taking a 1/4 sub a day to maintain n be able to go to school and work..its not easy but i cant check into detox so im doin it at home..its not easy but i have WAY to much goin for me right now to piss it away to contunue to be a slave to the spike. Im doin the best i can

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Hanna opana what did you do as dosing for those 5 days?!?!? I need help

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yea um u can't insufflate op's..

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