Just Want To Take Suboxone For A Few Days To Detox From Heroin Will It Work (Page 2)

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hey guys, i have been taking dilaudid for about 5 months 4,8mg a day then switched to heroin for 1 month 2 bags a day,now my friend gave me 4,8mg suboxones and told me it would help me get off h for good, i waited 24 hours took half a subox and i must say it works for wd's but when i run out witch i estimate will be in 2,3 days will i just suffer again;like where i left off or will the h be out of my system and the wd's light enough to withstand, please help, im not a newbee to drug abuse had bad h habits in the past and know the nature of the beast, just want this stuff out of my life so i can go back to work and live again, i need the truth or as close as i can get, can i beat it like this or am i wasting my time,maybe i can get one or two more subs from my freind

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all u do to get off subs is whatever your dr started you out on they will ween you off them...like if you take 2 8mgs a day u will take 1and a half for about 2 months and then 1 for about a month and then a half of millagram for about 2-3 weeks then you will b good to go... but it also depends on if you have a high addictive personalitly like i do...

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tottally agree i tried the aa/na seen for about a month and i couldnt stand it. its just not me, like you said its just not for some people, some people it works for but not me... i have a diffrent personality then they do... but i do know it works for some people but for others it doesnt.. u just gott find your own way of quiting.. like getting a hobby moving away from the situation always works for me... like i go hunting when its hunting season and when its not hunting season i go fishing and when im not fishing i ride dirtbike.. anything to keep my mind busy... thats what works for me not aa/na... seriously after every meeting i went to everybody stands around and just talks about there horror stories from when they were using and for me thats not what i wanna n hear cuz for me thats a trigger.. and was forced to go to rehab for two weeks cuz i was on probation and gave a dirty urine and same thing did no good...that was even worse than aa/na meeting thats all rehab was about where i went they would just talk about there past how to bang dope and coke how many millagrams of pills people were taking... it was a waste of my time... so basicly just pick up a hobby or somthing your interested in and it will help you control the substance... good luck

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agree again... all your doin is substituting one drug for another.. i find it funny when they say there clean now cuz the doctors put me on methadone so now i dont do drugs any more... NEWSFLASH. methadone is and opiode its just and opiate blocker and its much worse getting off of. i did the methadone thing and when i wanted to quit taking them it was the worse w/drawl i ever been through... some people just dont get it opana.

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disagree pat doctors just prescribe the stuff they dont really know what it does.. them doctores never went thru it... we the addicts actually experience the ways of the addiction live so if any body should be giving advice is us. doctors really dont know they just know what there told honestly... but like i said they never went thru what us addicts go thru... just somthing for you to think about pat... im not saying your wrong i jus disagree thats all....

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You can get in touch with me... U don't have to apologise, I was a raving maniac for 12 years!! I can give you a lot of good sites on PAWS and also just be here to listen..I usually don't give my email out. but this site has no other way to do it..Hope to hear from you soon

Pat

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Hey Cory, if we all agreed on everything the world would be a very boring place..I respect your opinions and would never try to sway them, and that is all I ask from others. I still however even though you are right that doctors are just book smart, when we start telling people to take this pill or that pill, and something happens to that person its on us. that is why I never tell people what to take before they speak to a doctor, let the doctor be liable..I tried suboxone before it was even prescribed here..I guess you could call me a lab rat experiment gone wrong. Suboxone almost killed me, my organs shut down, and it was horrible..I just happen to be that small percentage who can't tolerate it...As for AA/NA. glad you left, to me at least where I live it is a meat market. and I had to listen to people talk about how much they slamed. stole. in other words glorified war stories, who GAF what a person used and how much they spent A lot of new people went out and used because they wanted to try drugs they never did..IMHO it is a cult.....

Pat

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Hanna, I tried leaving you my e mail, but I don't know if it will show up..If not, I am on facebook
Patrice Bedrosian-Nagel
Hopefully you can get in touch with me through there
TTYS
Pat

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thank you pat... yeah all i was saying is that docotors really dont know what we the addict is really going through they just tell us to take these meds and they say we will be all better but really its us the people that have experienced it that know best... but yes doctors do know some things and your right you should confront your doctor first that way if somthing happens to someone the doctor is reliable.. tottaly agree there.... and as far as the na/aa programs for me they were totall B.S. but i do know some people that love it and it works for... but for me it wasnt... to be honest they made me wanna go back out and use again, becuase of the war stories... hell i was in rehab and thats all that was talked about what they use to do... to be honest i learned more about drugs than i ever did.. meaning i learned how to do drugs diffrently... i think everybody needs to find what works for them in order to get clean... if aa/na works thats great do that... if hobbies/interst work for you thats great do it btw thats whats been working for me... you just gotta keep your mind occupied in order to stay clean... but thanx for the replay its always good to hear other peaples thoughts...

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Hay don't u worry we know that the people we hang out with r just wanting for themselves. And yes we probley have problems and that's why we get high. But when u have been on opiate meds and been on cheese ( H ) for longer then u have been sobar it's tuff, u see it's all we know. For us being clean is not right. Oh ya and Mr. perfect, have u ever been addicted to narcotics?

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well if your only doing roxys which are perc 30s 2 a day isnt very hi to me anyways im pretty sure taking the suboxone the way your friends told you will get you through the worst of it but when your done u will have to fight the mental part of withdrawal which i think is the hardest keep your head up and get determined you can d it

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I just read your post and I wanted to give you my experience. I do agree with Suboxone changing your life and getting back on your feet however getting off the suboxone was harder than getting off of H. I am on day 6 of my withdraw from the suboxone and its driving me INSANE.. i was on it for 7 months and im glad i got my life back but honestly it makes me wanna take somthing else to get this withdraw goine. im a VERY strong person but suboxone is HORRIBLE coiming off of. I would take an H withdraw ANYDAY over this.

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Your post was extremely helpful to me. Thanks Matt.

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wow, is is my second time getting cean the fist time i was clean for almost 2 yrs on subs for about 1 1/2 . i was using oxcys. 15 30's a day and snorting two bundles of herion and ambiens, zans, lets jus say EVERYTHING . But its my 3rd day i feel bout 90% aside from not being able to sleep at all, subs saved life once and Im sure they will again. GOOD LUCK TO ALL OF YOU on this quest.

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Thanks! Inspiring-i can do it too.

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I had an aneurysm In 97 it ruptured basiliar arterial anny. I survived and am one of the few who have. I waited two years for the 3d coils to be placed inside the
Aneurysm. It was a success I had the greatest intra vascular neuro surgeon the problem was the pain and the fact that every heart beat the sac was filling up and I was basically walking the green mile of life every second. It was a very painful and rare experience.
I was put on of course lortab and perocet for many years, I'm 41 year old male and have been through hell.
I got off the Valium the pain killers and then had another set back with an injury, I was like great here we go again. So I was put on lortab 10 and norco, I did fine and got off again cold turkey twice. It's not fun as we all understand. In 2004 I was getting tremendous and I mean the most horrid headaches imaginable because when I ruptured blood residue got between a membrane and is still there it's extremely rare and is some pain I wish on nobody. So then I was put on 30 milligram oxycodone. Started off with maybe one a day and by 2007 I was up to 12 30's a day.
I'm stubborn so I went cold turkey and ouch I was in the hospital... The pain and w/d after all the years of pain and then the factor of needing it was insanity.
I can't believe I'm still alive, lost both my parents and if course got back in lortab 10 for emotional and still pain I'm taking maybe 14 a day which is horrible I feel them but I'm sick of the grind. I have to go on the street to get my amount required to feel normal. I wont touch oxys I have used a couple but don't crave them. Recently I've just gotten to the point I'm sick of this s***. I use xanex to relax and to me it's the easiest to get off of, everyone is different. I've done the oxy hell I'm just sick of the chasing to get my amount. The time the money the bs,
I think I could go cold turkey but I'm getting older now and now when I get sick I throw up so hard the pressure us not good on my neck. Some people say that lortab ain't s*** but 14 a day with some xanex is just old. I'm goIng to a suboxone doctor because I have to work and I don't have the down time to just kick.
Is suboxone that bad as I've read and if it's worse then oxy withdrawal after 11 30's a day for 3 years there is no way. Im not as young and the thought of w/d right now is tiring plus with paws and depression.
I'm confused I no the half life and it's heavy shot but can it be used properly and detox if done properly.
I was thinking about getting on an antidepressant to fight the blues. Everyone is different, I hate the judgmental people, how disturbing, life is about support and love. Some people are so cold and hateful.
Ive been through the ringer and losing both parents has me thinking it's time to just live without having to pop pills. I know it's a trade off, one or the other. I'm just having second thoughts about subs. But I want to live and I know I'll probably slip back from pain, I think it's in the mind so much, just not knowing paying some a** 3 for one blue pill us killing my state if being.
I could get whatever I wanted pain but it seems alot if people the ones who extract stuff and abuse which is a disease to me not to judge. But it has screwed up my ability to get pain management without the doctors tripping. I'm ramblIng and probably all over place but is suboxone at small doses and then weaning really a good idea? Is the w/d worse then oxy? And can it be used if done in a correct fashion? I probably have one more cold turkey left in me. But 14 loris a day is still going to take awhile. I don't have the down time, any help would be appreciated. If you respond nicely great, if you want to put me down or say something silly then please don't respond. Thanks.

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I'am highly suggesting that you do not go on to suboxone i was a heroin addict for almost 10 years on methadone for a few and xanax by far xanax is the worst detox because you can have seizures and if you have had an aneurysm you can die I know about his cause of my father but back to the suboxone they make you feel horrible while you are on them your always tired irritable depressed and getting off them is worse because the PAWS take so long to go away I detoxed heroin cold turkey and it took only 10-12 days while the PAWS are much more intense then the ones of suboxone when its over it is over I took suboxone for about 2 yrs and now I am almost 4 weeks off them and still experiencing PAWS Iam tired all the time restless depressed angry and I'am on anti depressants not working be careful with suboxone it is far worse in my experience an the PAWS cans last a couple of months

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Good morning everyone! I am on day 4 of suboxone and so far so good... I had taken 2-3 30mg percs a day for the past 2-3 years and just couldn't take it anymore. I reached out for help and an IOP program tried to force me to go to rehab. I don't have the time or $ for that so I bought subs on the street. Took 2 8mg Monday, 1-1/2 Tuesday, 1 Wednesday, and half today. Quick tapers DO WORK! I wish all of you luck - this is my first time trying to quit the percs and was scared outta my mind but I'm feeling amazing so far!

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Same w sobo and both worse withdrawals than any kinds of pills

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Wow I'm sitting in a hospital room with my son and he has been trying to gt off heroin for several months now bt alternating cold turkey w subs as well as cold turkey and using benzos for first few days nothing is working ! He decided to go to detox n hospital this is second day and he begging me to gt him benzos to gt thru next few days he is 24 was shooting 4 to 6 balloons day my question is would a couple clonipens to keep him from leaving b worth it or is he still in the I wasn't addicted to this so it'll b okay mind frame? Help I know wat the right thing to do is obviously I also see him leaving hospital AMA if he doesn't calm down

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