Is My Daughter Snorting Focalin Xr? (Page 2)

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I may have found evidence that my 15yo girl is snorting her folacin xr, 20mgs. Is this even possible? How or rather why would she smash the luttle beads up? To snort them? What kind of high? Sincerely, Worried Mother

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Im 20 yrs old an I buy 35Mg focalin, its an amazing high but self control is def needed to not be addicted. We all where or are young, best thing, learning from mistakes.

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I have been on focalin xr since age 13 my tolerance is up but I really have ADHD and I found out by it going undiagnosed for my early school years. I am now 23. Focalin is a wonder drug for people who actually have ADHD. I went through my last four years of college while abusing it, by not taking what the bottle said and then started snorting it. All my college friends loved focalin, great party drug for people who don't have ADHD; but I never seemed to get as messed up as them. The only difference is that snorting focalin eliminates the time lapse coating so the pill hits you all at once. I am currently now on 35mg xr in the morning and around 2-3 I take a 10mg immediate release focalin and I prefer the immediate release. Now I never snort them because orally is much better the xr can become a problem I know I would blow close to 100- 200 mg's a day at my worst. It also definitely a gateway drug because after awhile ou just plain get sick of not being able to sleep and being on edge and paranoid. So after all this switch to other drugs like opiods and weed and xanax and Clonopin Valium.... The list goes on early abuse can lead to early onset of switching to other stuff and I never started snorting it until my junior year of college and the down spiral took 2 years to come to fruition and I wound up at rehab but now I'm better. I have soo much more self control because I've experienced the damage. Good luck and you should definitely intervene with your daughter or else your going to have a 21-22yr old who is a train wreck trust me. But if you let her run her course with it she eventually switch to another drug of choice so handle it carefully focalins side effects cause serious paranoia and also sever aggression depending on dosage she will hate you but in the long run she will thank you

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Let her feel the high. She will snap out of the phase. Every child should experiment at some point IMO.

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haha your 16? jesus kid. you sound like how i was at your age. I'm 22 and have been to rehab 4 times. grow up and stop bein so defiant it gets you NO WHERE

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i take focalin for a while, as an adhd person. i dont abuse it, but the pill it self can be pulled apart and the powder is what she's insufflating. its set up like that because some people cant swallow pills and so they make it so it can be disolved in a liquid instead of swallowing the pill as a whole

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Dxm quite fun along side bud

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Her insufflating it is very possible. The high is not as euphoric as something like coke or molly but it certainly gives you a speedy feeling. But one thing that is also very possible is that she crushed on of the pills. from personal experience i have dropped a pill and stepped on it not realizing little white beads had been released. for sure DO NOT FREAK OUT. a big side affect of this type of drug abuse is depression. your only going to make her want it more by losing your cool.

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Yes I've taken focalin xr when I was in school. It kept me focused when I used it properly. I took it in several years on via other methods of administration. It ruined my life. I had no true parental guidance, so I was never really scrutinized. It only got addressed when I was expelled. I'm in what is suppose to be my junior year, no prom for this kid. I still continue usage but I'm never home for anyone to see me on it. I haven't developed anything that she cause me to stop and I don't know why so I keep on trucking. Living in the moment. Anyone reading this inquiring for their children's sake please hey to the bottom of it and quick. Watch your kid take their dose and hide the bottle. If they con l can get to it kids will want to satisfy their curiosity. That's how I started, another kid told me about it. Needless to say he is off it and my life was destroyed because of it.

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I know this is very old, but this is very possible. I am prescribed 20 MG focalin XR and I often take them in other ways than prescribed. Taking them orally, I feel the effects after about an hour, and it lasts maybe 8 hours. Taking them via other methods, I feel the effects in 15 mins, and it is MUCH more intense than if I had taken them orally. Initial feeling wears off in about an hour, but I feel the effects for 4-5 hours when I do things my way.

When taken orally, there is almost no mood elevation for me. But with other methods, it immediately puts me in a good mood, and I feel great. It's very addictive.

I have binged on them when doing long projects for work, so much so that I took 90 MG on a Saturday and 80 MG the following Sunday. Fearing that I was becoming more dependent that I already am, I did not take any the following Monday. I was exhausted. Done. No motivation. I literally had to muster everything I had to get from the bed to the couch. The next day I took 10 MG orally and took 20 in an effort to get out of bed and make it to work. I felt alright, but was tired and unmotivated.

Next day I took 20 orally. I felt alright, and felt like my body / brain was starting to return to normal.

The next day, and every day since, I have been taking 10 orally. I feel alright on that dose, but the temptation to misuse them is something I deal with almost every day. The best thing for me to do would be to ask the doctor to change my prescription, but I'm too weak to turn away from the drug at this point.

Part of what I am / was addicted to was having a secret, my little bathroom trips where I would prepare the medicine for administration were neat little adventures that only I knew about. Having that secret was a big part of what I enjoyed about it.

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So can speak from a few sides of this... LADC-MH (License Alcohol Drug Counselor with a side of mental health) basically counsel anyone... Parent of two kids that take after me so pure handfuls and I will be dealing with this with at least one. I am very interested in how this turned out. I saw some good comments and some not so good comments. I can say from my experience I would let the doctor know of your concern so they keep them on the least abusive meds... if the doctor is a tool he will yank the meds but if he truly cares about helping he will work with you. I can say from my growing up I learned from hard knocks... My parents sheltered me quite a bit and I am too rebellious to follow good directions.... finally pulled my head out when I had something to actually lose. By the way if it hasnt been made clear the XR version does get abused but its a lot of work from what I have been told and overall focalin isnt that great after the first couple of times. I have made a point to not shelter my children from the uglier side of the world... my 8yr old has already donated time at one of the local homeless shelters and my 14yr old spent a short period of time in juvi and then in county through some connections. The glamour is long gone about the fun the drugs can be since they saw the results. Don't know if they will end up using anyways but tried to show the not glamorous side and we run an oddly open house... so talks with them happen often and unless they really venture out of the neighborhood there isnt a parent I am not on a first name basis with. I believe strongly in transparency and it takes a village to raise a kid. Try going solo and attempting to control them is almost pointless. I don't work with kids because I truly lack the heart for it (usually an issue with the parents that manifests through the kids so its like running on a wheel) so I stick with adults but hear the stories from others that will work with the kids and rarely is it from a lack of the parents trying (unless the parents are into drugs also) usually is a strangling thing and except locking them up which in previous places I have worked they still get adhd meds and then cheek it despite us checking and go back to their room/shower and do it... that was my first 2 places... not by choice but one has to eat and the only other option was dhs... so into state funded adolescent facilities till i was able to land a job in a that I can go home with a clear conscience.... most of the time...when someone fails you always have to wonder if you missed something or if it was going to happen no matter what.... no one knows but odds of relapse are much higher than odds of success.... like to the point if someone relapses it doesnt surprise me at all... i just care they get back through the door and we can try again. But finishing up with your daughter dont over shelter... kids already think they are invincible and the more sheltered they are the more that grows imo due to a lack of being in touch with how life can go.

Growing up I was fairly social and had friends that did and didnt use substances... in turn i know a fair bit of dead people between growing up and my job. We all grew up fairly spoiled not really wanting much to the point on person got a motorcycle and within a month most of us would... my parents were smarter with their money than others which is why they still have quite a bit but others dumped stupid amounts of money into treatment inpatient was the big money sucker.... I know two families that are missing a kid due to heroin... one didn't even make it back to his parents before he died... forgot the relation to the staff of the person that they released the kid to but he had a shot waiting for him in the car not taking into consideration that he hadn't had an opiate in about 4 months.... dead in the back seat because they couldn't decide fast enough he needed to get to a hospital... (umm yeah common sense even to me then... more than a small nod or if they turn blue its an ambulance call or back of my car if I am less than 5 from the hospital.... sorry not having that on my conscious and that was made very clear to everyone... and no that didnt make friends but whatever some you need and some you dont) It was kinda pushed under... family friends or something... they at least agreed if he was going to relapse then it almost didnt matter when... i slight hold a grudge because life is too important to bother with images.... we didn't play much with the lighter things because they were rather boring but hey we couldn't be touched... parents always there to bail us out or cover it at home because appearances. So please don't make those mistakes... no one will stop till they are ready and at the beginning it is all a lot of fun... by the time a chunk of them have either quit or had enough bad experiences many stop on their own if they can....so I live in the midwest and growing up cartels were not present... now its who you get your meth and heroin through... the parts of town i wouldnt drive has changed greatly and on the other hand its cheaper and more accessible than ever.... cops bust some young kid that barely speaks english and there is another out there within hours according to local pd. Just a different game than many of us grew up in. Heroin used to be a drive out of the state and had to buy in decent amounts or it wasnt even worth the drive. And yes I know this thread is about focalin xr but to give you an idea of the progress started with stealing parents alcohol which was kept very stocked and i think i got in trouble once for it.... which it was an every weekend thing to grab something... then onto pills and pot... oxy was much easier to get back then... decided to try out meth for a bit but oi that did a number on my emotions so dumped it... ended up doing mostly extasy (called mdma or molly now) and maybe a little too much mushrooms and lsd.... very good times and the best part is i didnt die and ended up learning from it.

I would like to say college is a good education but I always had to giggle on the inside about the people that had never touched anything more than alcohol or pot and swore they were addicted to pot... im not going to judge much but i wanted to facepalm anytime someone said that... I didn't bother talking with many of them but a handful I had in enough classes you couldn't avoid it so talking happens... My side I drink on ocassion. There side is they were sent to rehab for alcohol and pot... alcohol consumption was sometimes high but usually not even into the life threatening zone... who knows maybe if they hadnt ended up in rehab it would have progressed but i will just admit i want to pat them on the head and say go have some more experience and when youre in trouble call me. Hard to beat experience which is why my teachers gave me quite a bit of preference... there is something different between someone that has seen the uglier side and only the picket fence side.... now I will throw this in before I catch too much hell.... Yes I see soccer moms and people that are much smarter than I but still cant figure out how to stop drinking or taking a certain pill.... harder drugs in that crowd is rare unless its cocaine (powder not rock)... for their lives it is usually destroying at least their family system... they usually end up with kids that I try to push towards alateen or if they are older aca... big fan of aca for those affected by an addict. They dont realize the odd thinking until they are exposed to people being open about how their lives are. If you can relate to dont feel, dont talk, dont trust.... it might be worth looking into... i can fit all three but its usually during times that i am hearing something horrible so emotionally i distance myself so i dont judge... and the dont trust... yep... only entrust that youre doing your best... anyone else that walks through the door most dont have a track record of anything long enough to be trusted further than you can throw them.

alright enough of a run on paragraph. if the OP is still around let me know how its going. Not going to council if I can hold it back but would like to hear a positive story... the few that do make it are why i can stand my job... also never expect someone to make it... those burn out so fast.... studies and stats usually dont lie much so no reason to think different.

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That's why your are not considered a responsible legal adult- you should spend more time listening and learning from the wisdom of experience and how to grow into a successful wise adult yourself and not writing such ignorant posts of such.no teen of such age should be dabbling in such dangerous behavior you have no idea what it leads to and damage it will do to u n your loved ones lives- go read a book and prayers your way that you have brighter more positive things to do with ur life to come. It is a big deal and maybe someone needs pay more attn to what path ur going on - sad if u only knew----

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The only thing ide like to add is look for shotglasses ,that's how people usually crush the beads ,the use it like a mortar and pestle so the beads don't fly around, I know from experience, it's very very commonly abused.

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I am prescribed 25mg focalin xr and I, along with many others crush up the beads and dissolve it in water. The beads are very hard to dissolve and takes very long, that is why I crush them up first. I also do this because It is easier to control the amount I am taking. I like to take half or 3/4 in the morning and the last bit when I am coming down and need a little boost.

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You are a alcohol and drug counselor? The post you responded to was a lady frightened because she is afraid her 15 year old daughter is starting to insufflate amphetamines and all you did was minimize it because of your (obvious) reckless and dangerous addiction to drugs and alcohol. Once an addict always an addict. Only an addict would think that a 15 year old girl crushing her prescription needed to continue to be on it. If she wants to abuse it you can find a way and with the internet its just a click away. You also provided her no support or advice but you did however give in detail your life story. I find it hard to believe you are a counselor when all you can do is talk about yourself. But usually drug counselors are addicts who are abstaining. But the rate of relapse is very high. Here's a hint. If you're going to just go on and on about your self and minimize the fact that a minor is engaging in life threatening behavior and could be forming an addiction which could ruin her future, I would leave your so called title out of it.

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ok. i should start from the beginning.

my mom was prescribed 40mg x30 along with 10mg x60 of focalin. they would be gone in less than a week. (three or four people taking them.)

honestly if you are scared she is going to get addicted then i dont know what to say. because even though coming down off of it feels HORRIBLE. i never have a need for more. if i can get some, great. if not, well it was probably for the better and i dont care.

it can be dangerous.

****** if she starts to ramble on and on about all kinds of stuff and she usually doesnt. then she is most likely insufflating it.

once i start talking i usually cannot shut up.

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Probably, I'm a recovering drug addict. So also look for a dirty spoon, burnt spoons, needless, and needle pricks, bumps, bruises, and dark lines running from her arm. Don't treat her like a criminal. Doing that will push her more into isolation. She needs you. Get her help. Try to be understanding.

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I guess you gotta expierence the real world first before you can say that. Yeah she's insufflating it, stop her.

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My daughter used heroin again last night. She called me right after at work ( I'm a RN) and confessed. She felt that I should be relieved in some way. I'm so tired. I love her more than I can express but I've exhausted all the resources available to our family and my daughter. I wish we had the funds to send her to a nontraditional rehab. I am totally and completely lost. We need prayers please.

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Yeah your daughter is most likely abusing it. Dependent upon what your evidence is. Anyways she may just be curious, like many teens that start abusing drugs, and is seeking a new experience. This is the worst case scenario because eventually she will try harder and harder drugs. It is also possible she is feeling swamped in school and is using the drug to excel in areas that are causing her trouble. Talk to her and possibly her doctor or a child therapist. But in the end it really doesn't matter what you do because she will do what she wants, as kids do.

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A friend gave me a few 5mg focalin
to try today (6) for my ADD and OCD, and me as a past opiate abuser decided, "oh just take them all at once." I weigh almost 300 pounds (insert sad face because I've tried over and over to loose, but can't. So, I figured my body will be fine with it. And, I've been on I guess what you calla high, but a.different high than my medication I take for herniated back discs gives me. Very talkative, speedy, getting things done. Also, not crabby or being ill with anyone on this focalin as when I take my opiate, I am mean and very moody when coming off the high. My problem is, I found myself calling said friend and asking for more because this was the "high" and "speed" I needed. I've taken 2 additional tabs every hour for the last 3 hours for a total of 12 of the 5mg tablets so that is 60mg so far and I almost feel I won't stop until I'm out of them. But, I feel like this is what I've needed for me moods, anger, laziness, you name it for months. What would you do to ask your doctor to put you on focalin without letting them know you've tried it. Am I crazy for wanting to change from an anxiety medication called imipram to focalin? I even feel it would keep me from doing the 4 opiates I am prescribed on a daily basis. I'm kinda just wondering all types.of different things at this point!!!!

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