How To Inject 30 Mg Op Oxycontin (Page 4)

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I've been taking oxycontin oc with different mgs. and now I just recieved these new oxycontins that are 30 mgs. op and I cant get them to break down so that I can inject them I'm really going through some terrible withdraws. can some one please give me some advice so that I can? Thank you

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wtarin1:

First of all, I do not have to disguise myself as anything, as I never give any Medical advice, or step beyond my boundaries. This is a good forum, to help those who need it. If you cannot see this, then you need to expand your world.

Secondly, the things you write (incorrectly) on this forum are simply ignorant and not helpful at all. You are obviously not an educated person, or a person who knows NOT how to help, or support those who are addicted, or dependent on certain medications.

You have so much anger in you and you just spew ridiculous statements. Religion DOES NOT belong in this forum, as you cannot assume that 100 percent of the participants believe as you do. That is very egocentric and frankly, ignorant.

As far as your comment about somebody reporting you as Spam, I have never done such a thing. Maybe you are taking too much of your medication, making you paranoid. I would suggest a very immediate check-in with your physician.

Hatred and statements that you make on this forum are not helpful at all. As you said in one of your last posts, you were going away and calming down. I think that is an excellent idea. Unless you have anything HELPFUL to add, instead of spreading hatred, you do not belong in any forum.

Now, go read your book of fairy tales and hopefully that will give you Christians strength, or whatever it does for you, just like a four-year-old child.

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Please dont assume all christians are ego-centric, cruch leaning people. Im a christian, and i live with the major struggle that it inter-vienious oxycontin, heroin, delouded ect. Its not fairy tales. its a book that gives me hope that im not a worthless junkie...like other christians tell me too. Dont hate my christ, ...its not his fault that the majority of his followers are ignorant, weak minded, generaly s***ty people. Im a christian, and a Drug user, and i love all of you,...even the low life who dogged the doc.

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Dr. Abraham - I'm going no where. I will stay here if not for anything else but to bug you. I have never, my friend, never abused my meds. Or would I. I am a very educated person also. I don't preach "fire and brimstone" here either. My "fairy tales" are read all over the world, to the choice they choose. Have a good evening, Dr?

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The covering on the Oxycontin tablets is marked as SR on the script box which = 'slow release'. They are made this way so that it slowly releases through your system over about a 12 hour period.. Sometimes I just suck off the outer coating if I want it to start working a little quicker - also another reason for me is that because of 2 bouts of bowel cancer, I no longer have a bowel so I have less intestine in which the tablet can be used. If I didn't speed the dissolving time up a little, I would end up with a partly used Oxy in my bag.

I agree with comments further down. For those of us who need this medication for genuine pain control, we have to jump through more hoops at the pharmacist to keep track of our use. One of my friends commented to me that I should be very careful about just who is behind me when I am getting my scripts filled. I've taken her comments very seriously. I'm not judging others but I don't want to become a victim of being mugged for my meds.

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You know this is not even funny, if you are abusing drugs its people like you all, is why people who need this can't get it. It was a good drug, until people started abusing it. Who ever out there is doing this, I got a word for you, you are either going to prison or the grave. Trust me I know for sure. You deserve with drawels.

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Bravo doctor Abraham! Tell it like it is..This world is not a place where everything is beautiful..And right from the start in the US they throw out -All men are created equal! oh really?? Sell that to the fundamentalists!!! This world is a bitch, and people suffer tremendous hardships. Money and profit. guides everything including these chemical pushers that sell a pain pill that costs almost a thousand dollars a month and hook you while a herb that can be grown on your back porch is kept illegal... for those who suffered in war, accidents, been beat to near death for a rich man capitalist -The truth is when you need to take pills to relieve the damage done by making a living. Grandpa drank and this generation uses and all is because not all are created equal... Unions are dying and the fossil fuels supply will force you to work harder and harder for the the lifestyle that is fleecing the world, wall street thugs don't care about anything you will see.. Pray for our return to oxy and all that give their bodies to make a living....

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Yes, one Q? 4 U/ Why does it not phucking preform as wll as previous. I am not abuser.

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wtarin1:

Let's please keep in mind WHY this forum exists. It is not for anybody to debate, or interject their religious philosophies. I recommend that you read the original posting and stick to that subject. If you do not have anything helpful to add, then I would probably not write anything more.

It is very apparent that you really need to seek some kind of psychological help (this is not a negative criticism), but your hatred and your irrationality is so apparent to all in this forum.

Again, I will not bother the rest of these members with your nonsense. Everyone here is to educate themselves, not to get into any kind of a religious debate, or how "educated" you are.

I would be happy to debate you, or discuss anything you'd like, but just not here. This is reserved for those people who have the courage to reach out and ask the difficult questions and find the appropriate answers.

As far as your last post, you absolutely do not "bother" me, as I consider the source and your level of knowledge on this subject. From the very little you have written, you know nothing about addiction, or how it is treated all over the world. Maybe you should open your mind and do some research before you post anything else.

May YOUR God bless you!

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hey it really works if u cut the pill down with sissors as fine as possible. then put the bits in a spoon. heat with a lighter until it turns dark brown. put at least 50 cc of water. heat it up some more then just draw it up. it will b dark brown. find a vein n go 4 it.

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Oh Dr. - I am VERY WELL informed about addiction. Believe me, I do. Again, if you didn't get it the first time, I am not here to discuss "fire and brimstone". We ALL have our demons don't we? We kick them down one at a time also. I want to know how others are dealing with the new "lock down" on opiates from our Doctors. Or how the new formulation has effected them, as like myself. I just came from a pain clinic, execpt he had nothing new nor enlightening to say. Apparently, the FDA, has come to the inconceivable notion, that it is all our fault. I am speaking of "not locking up our meds while our children are getting them". I believe that you have singled me out for my intelligence and the contention, is neither good for you or for me. So please, sir, back it off. There are bigger fish to fry.

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Oh FISH!

Again, I'd be happy to test your intellect on ANOTHER forum, but NOT HERE!

I haven't read a single, enlightening, educated thing you have written. It is all vial, hatred and anger. As I mentioned before, PLEASE see a Psychiatrist and really deal with your emotions.

Have you spoken to your pain physician about Butrans®? It is a new medication, in the American market. Maybe that might help you and you won't be so angry with the world, because you cannot get all of the narcotics you want!

By the way, people that continually HAVE to mention "how educated" they are, means the exact opposite. You definitely have so much learning and research to keep you busy, rather than acting as if this forum is your personal Dr. Phil!

Talk to your Doctor about Butrans. It is made by the same company that offers Oxycontin (Purdue Pharma L.P.). It comes in a skin-colored patch. It is extended release and may help with your pain.

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AMEN sister! nah' for real though, I believe that ALCOHOL is much dangerous than taking a few purcs, etc...I don't believe in taking them with needles, but hey, "to each his own"!...just like I'd prefer a Caffreys beer over a Miller! So, what is the deal with the Dr's hault on everythung? Raise the taxes on it and start stocking it on shelves! Not talking bout' the heavy stuff, i.e. - morphine, OC, eyc...just start with the avg. norco/hydros! People, like myself, who have had a "hangmans" fracture from a car accident, broke several C verts and T's in back. I have very high metabolism, very very high, so much, I eat like 5-8 meals a day...so does that effect my pain tolerance level any? and y is there a liquor store/beer store on every corner, which makes people more "out-of-it" and DUIs, families messed up b/c drunk driver, etc...weigh pros and cons...A. Abuse levels would lower, people would "respect" the "pills" more, AND I guarantee you'd see far less fatalities due to drunk driving, less "bottle-guzzlers", more people off the streets, and if anything, at the worst they'd have to open more rehabilitation cntrs...so?? WHAT'S the BIG DEAL and WHY? Is it political? or political?

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Hello; I am having a terrible time with the new formulation of oxycontin ~ I know it is not psychosomatic, as my goal has always been to cut down my pain meds. if I could/can, and my Dr. is well aware of this. I have a complicated mess of issues ( traumatic accident/ crushed L side cyatic above my L butt cheek/lower back + 7 discs out) this gave me bi-lateral peripheral neuropathy in both legs and feet w/ severe 24/7 pain-left me prone for 3 yrs. The Dr. I had would not give me ANY pain meds at 1st "not gonna give you narcotics just because you SAY you're legs/feet hurt". Anyone familiar w/ this condition can tell you it can be excruciating. I tried and tried to do phys. therapy, usually ending in me poring with tears (not emotional kind) and passing out. The asshole-(sorry, Dr i mean) finally gave me 10mg oxy a day. ;) To me, it was like throwing a band-aid at a punctured Aorta artery-an insult. I tried so hard I tore both my Radial Nerves in both forearms! The whole phys.therapy team went with me to this Dr. as I 'fired' him ( I had to secure new Dr. 1st, on medicare they did not like, because i lost my job and 'COBRA' ran out) Finally, a guy got me in w/ a knowledgeable Dr. "One time only, I don't take medicare" I had this list & speech all ready-he just asked me to do several things, stood back and said, "My God, man, you are not getting proper treatment! I will be your Dr. from now on." What a pitiful sight I must have been. A 190lb. athlete reduced to a wimpering blob of 155 that shrieked at anyones touch. He gave me 120mg. of oxy ER right there. My life changed again that day!

In 1 1/2 yrs. I had all my discs back in, walking with arm crutches fairly well, still in major pain, but hey, when you have been to hell, the side of the barbeque pit ain't that bad. Later that year i began having pain in the upper part of L side of my body and they found a tumor in the R Parietal Lobe of my brain, "unoperable, terminal w/in a yr." I started having seizures.

Well, that was 7 years ago. I am not 'cured', but I'm not dead, either. I had to get a new 'Dr. as mine moved on, and he basically just refers and maintains me-kind of like and old classic car, part way into reconstruction. Well, I am allergic to a lot of things-had some oxy saved up (they are with a parent, in lock-box.) I offered this as a sort of 'olive-branch' to the new Dr., to show trust. They have known my mom for many years-she won't even take an asprin without "OK" from the Dr.---so I get a 'day-pack'-no access to bottles, etc..

Well , she would rotate new with the ones I had extra-That way I could go on a vacation and not freak out if it was near end of month, etc.. Well, my Dr. did not inform me of the formula switch, nor pharmacy, I did not read it in news. I started to become very ill again, almost as if I was 'backsliding'. Pain increased, itching terrible, low fever after ingesting, burning sensation in my stomach, I thought it must be the brain tumor, so another round of MRI's , hospital, blah, blah. I waited, got sicker. "No, not this, that etc.." I finally realized it was the Oxy and started looking and found this - although I would have posted under another thread. I felt relieved to know I was not the only one! OH-BUT WAIT! The f***ing co. says "they're the same, just fixed so people can't shoot or snort them" Well, I did neither, and do not pass judgment on those who do - I have not been in their shoes, but damn it all if I can get my Dr. to take my side and change or something. These are making me SO sick. I can not eat again. 22 hrs. in bed, AGAIN! I feel like it is poison building in my system. I put myself through withdrawal ON PURPOSE, to take the pain over poison. Everytime I get ready to call the Co. and get the # dialed, I PASS OUT! This took me 6 hrs. to type. Finally going to plead my case w/ Dr. again, with this new source saying - see it's not just me. God help us all that are struggling with this. Any Med. alternative that are realistic suggestions, I would appreciate. Thank you; p.s. Dr. Abrahms - if you are - stop bantering back and forth with wtarin - it takes 2 to tango - and you are doubles peaking. He can't fight alone.

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If you are looking for an alternative for oxy you need to try opana er. Highest dose is 40mg but dr can write to take more often. Its a miracle pain med for me and I was taking 80oxy 4xaday. Anyway. Try opana and see how it helps you. Another good thing about opana is if you eat it will increase the effectiveness of the drug so you can eat and not have to worry that your pain med effect will decrease because when I took oxy in the past if I ate I realized that my meds were not working as well so I wouldn't eat. Now I can eat and still have pain relief. Hope this helps you.

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WarWalker - You are absolutely right. I will NO longer be the battering ram for the Dr. I am so sorry for your situation. I am not as bad as you but I was also told I only had two months to live, that was 7 years ago. And I like you had no warning about the switch. The switch has caused so many problems for so many people. We are helpless to the doctors and Purdue. Just praying they will see the error and help us chronic pain suffers. May God be with you and my prayers are with you.

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Thank You for the replies, wtarin1 and OP;
Even though it was like pulling teeth:"I have other people on oxy, you are the only one complaining"- as the red blotches stretched out from my hairline, I fought to hold back the vomit and could swear that the pain banging in my legs, feet, neck and head were so loud that anyone could hear them. Even so, I still know how to communicate in a civilized manner- I explained my symptoms, the time frame and my OPINION of what was happening. His nurse (who has been there also for most of this whole ordeal) was 'staring' at me and said, "you look terribly pale and are getting hives on the back of your neck" The Doc still didn't want to hear it. I took offense to his saying I was 'complaining' and comparing me to other patients. I told him I had called FDA and Purd. Pharm., and I was "NOT the Only one" - could provide the #, although I thought that after 9 years of me being straight-up and never having an issue w/ meds. - I did not think I needed anything more than my word and his exam to see that something was wrong.

He angrily got up and stomped to the door-"this bull.." He returned and I said, "Look, if you were allergic to peanuts, I certainly would not call you a 'complainer' and feed you more, that would be bull..." He had been giving me 80mg oxy x 3 or 4 a day - I had never asked for more in 10 yrs., even asked to go to 3 when I was doing well.

He gave me Opana 20mg x 2 a day for 2 weeks. I asked if that was enough to stop w/d symptoms as he said 'stop oxy and take these' ~guess we'll see. We can discuss dosage in 2 weeks. Well I will say two last things=--- Praise God! These opanas work! Trouble is, 40 mg a day is not enough to switch for 240mgs. of Oxy. So, I am feeling better during the day, then up all night w/ allergic reaction to those crappy 'oxy-meltedplastic-glue new things. Second, I asked nurse afterwards as his behavior stunned me~she whispered, "he has to fill out some forms + you being on Medicare and all" - Well, la-ti-f***in'-da, I'll be crying him a river after 2 weeks of no sleep, not breathing and itching my skin off. Thanks for the thoughts and prayers, guys-here's hoping I can get the opana dose adjusted in 2wks.

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@"Wordyman"-No one asked you to-leave these posts to those in need. Not all are 'junkies'.

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I posted an "update" specifically for 'OP' & 'Wtarin1'~as well as anyone who may get help/comfort/ or like me, the ususal catch-22 ( ie....'The great thing is you won't die!!!~~The downside is, well, you'll wish you did, ;>} ). Anywho it took me quite a bit to post & I must have passed-out from pain-not long- it was still there so I finished, though it has not appeared?

Thank you, OP, for suggesting Opana. I took on empty stomach as directed and could really begin to feel the pain easing up, so I know it would probably work for me. The problem is my Dr. got out his little 'comparisson chart' and said well, 80mg of Oxy is =to 20 mg. of this (Opana). He knew I was taking 3 x 80mg of oxy a day before. I told him for last 3weeks I had put myself through withdrawls down to 2x 80mg a day; I felt as I was being poisioned and it scared me enough to go deeper into 'Painland', though by no means was I OK on that dose and reverting to 22 hrs. prone & suicidal thoughts. He handed me a script, said,"stop oxy's, take one of these in AM, onePM and I'll see you in 2 wks." So, to get a good idea if they work like the three 80mg oxy's that barely made my life livable, I am to take a total of 40mg of this other A DAY?
After 10 yrs. of what I am sure is a certain amount of tolerence? "Well you said you were down to 2 oxy's".

Heavenly Lord, man. Have you not heard me? LOOK at me~I am full of red blotches, can hardly breathe, itch everywhere and just projectile vomit everyplace I go-I said I felt it was the lesser of 2 EVILs, I want to avoid eating DRAINO' if I can. Soo.....I am taking the 20mg Opana (2) during the day and 1 80 oxy at night. It is clear now that I do not feel as sick and the blotches go away during the day; although this will be the 3rd night w/ no sleep Can two 20mg of Opana really replace 240mg. of oxy?

I would imagine some are thinking , "Jeez, get a new Dr." Well, where I live , they see 'disabled', GSW w fragments in body (no, I'm not a criminal), oxycontin, medicare, etc... and forget it-they suddenly become 'full'. Any way, I wanted to say Thank You again to OP and wtarin1-the advice and prayers mean alot-and will go both ways. God Bless.

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WarWalker - I have been thinking about you all weekend. Does the opana work for you? I was sent to a pain clinic that was an hour and a half away from were I live and can you believe, my doctor didn't send them anything about me? NOTHING, the doctor wanted to know what "he could do for me"? I was so disgusted. And no, our doctors don't listen to us, even though we "live" in our bodies. Please try to stay strong, easier said than done, I know. But please do let me know if the opana works for you. Maybe I'll try to get my doctor to switch me. I am so tired of being in pain. God Bless!

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Why don't you stick to minding your OWN business and maybe, just perhaps stay the hell OFF of injecting sites if they offend you and ur purse so much. Always some a*hole preaching some s***. Why dont you to SPELL before u start preaching to the chior... How dare u even assume to know what people's situations are are begin to preach to them, no less? For shame on you .. Oh, and another 'preacher' checking out sites for injecting drugs.. What a hypocrite.

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