How Long Before Testopel Pellets Start Working? (Page 8)

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Just had Testopel pellets inserted in my backside. Forgot to ask doctor how long until they take effect. He's out of town.

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While Testopel may be ok, BioTE Medical is better, with a true bioidentical pellet, procedure for implant that does not require stitches, correct dosing for each individual instead of a trial and error method utilized by Slate Pharmaceutical! And it is my understanding that insurance will only cover 6 pellets, which is only a dose of 450mg. Many doctors that have used more than 6 have found themselves in the position of having to reimburse patient for costs not covered by insurance. Not near enough for many men with significantly low T and Free T levels. Also, if you are using Testopel, is your doctor monitoring your rbc/hgb and estradiol levels?

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Shrinkage can be minimized if your doctor knows what to have you take in the way of a natural supplement. Doctors trained in the BioTE method know how to minimize that as well as preventing gynecomastia* which can occur when T levels are increased.
*man boobs

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I am a little confused on your post Ginger. I see that you are advertising for BioTE yet you did not give much in the way of why it is better, other than a stich or two and a trial and error method. Please elaborate. I am not a testopel user anymore but would love to hear more information on the BioTE you mentioned since I have not heard anything about it, ever.

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well i have to say my case was one of the failures. my testosterone was at around 275 when starting with the pellets and went to about 675 within a month and i left nothing. a month later, it already started dropping and went to 550. Lots of pain and no result. Very disappointed.

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I was kinda getting man boobs BEFORE my Testopel implants. Afterwards my chest tightened up a bit & my historically "puffy" nipples tightened up and became erect as well. It was nice to see the positive change in physique, and with more energy & motivation to hit the gym things are only getting better. Right now though my Doc says he can't get them so hopefully they flood the market again before I need my next set.

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Maybe our government is buying up all the T like they are doing with the ammo so as to somehow reduce the cost for all of us? :)

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Testopel has an additive in it that allowed it to be patented, PVC. Bioidentical testosterone is naturally occurring in nature (yams and soy) and therefore cannot be patented. Testopel's big sell is that they are FDA approved. But then so are lots of medications that are currently at the center if major law suits for very undesirable, even fatal side effects. BioTE certified practitioners are trained on how to correctly dose each individual, which is key to proper hormonal balance. The pellets used by BioTE have 32 years of research in establishing the exact parameters for proper absorption that should last 4-6 months, based on how physically active and how stressful their life is. Our pellets are held to a 2% variance, where most other pellets are allowed by the FDA a variance of anywhere from 10-30%. Testosterone therapy should improve sexual performance for men, unless there is a valvular issue, determined by whether or not an erection can be maintained while lying on their back. If a man is significantly low, it can take a couple of rounds for the HRT to take affect. Optimal post Total T levels are 800-1100, where a man will see the best results and least side effects, ie. acne and water weight gain which are both transient and treatable. BHRT provides breast( yes, men get breast cancer also, 5%. And they are more likely to die from it than women are), bone, brain, heart, and prostate protection.

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I replied Mike, but may have been to long winded, as they sent me a notice they need to review it before posting it, lol!

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More and more men are being estrogenized. Man boobs and wider, plumper hips. That is largely due to the amount of passive estrogens in water supplies and animals that are treated with estrogen. Cows for example are put on estrogen before going to market as they can gain up to 100#'s in a short time. Also given to increase milk production. Xenoestrogens leach out of many of our plastic drink containers, especially if they get hot. This is phenomenon is typically only seen in industrialized nations.

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Ginger, I also am confused by your many posts and wonder the value of trying to "sell" your product on this blog. I went to the site for your product and honestly their was little information about the product and nothing about FDA approval. The closest "provider" is 147 miles away from me which is puzzling since I live in Boston, truly the HUB of medical schools and practitioners. I have only read two posts on this blog that mentioned stitch sutures - the minority with testopel insertion so I think you make a weak case there. I suppose my last comment is that the value of this blog from what I have read and posted is that men can freely help each other through their individual experiences with testopel and ther treatments (positive and negative) and that we're not trying to sell each other on new products but provide information that may help others...

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"Xenoestrogens leach out of many of our plastic drink containers, especially if they get hot. This is phenomenon is typically only seen in industrialized nations." Things are starting to make sense why I have extremely low T. I've spent over 3 years (not consecutively) in Iraq and Afghanistan. All I drank for those 3 years was bottled water & half the time it had been sitting out in the sun. Iraq can get into the 130's in the Summertime. Plastic bottles & hot sun I guess leaches Xenoestrogens into the water we have been supplied as Soldiers. Now my T level off therapy is way too low. My worst count was 130 something.

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Sorry David. I did submit another post as I stated earlier, but for some reason they said it could be a few days before it posted. This BHRT originated in Arizona, then expanded into Texas. We just went national last October and have added providers in 16 states and continue to grow and see great results in patients, both men and women. I understand that Testopel is off label for women and any dose greater than 450mg(6 pellets) is also off label and therefore not FDA approved. All I wanted to do is point out an option that may work better for some men and certainly an option for women! I have been on testosterone for 2 1/2 yrs and it has been phenomenal!

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Ginger, I am not sure why you say that only 6 pellets are covered and FDA approved. My doctor is one of the leading experts on HRT, has written many extensive papers on the subject, speaks regularly about it at conferences and has been published in many medical journals on his research of the subject. I sent him an email asking about this and he stated that this was incorrect. I routinely get 12- 14 pellets when I get my refill and have not experienced any of the side effects you have highlighted. I have to agree with David in that I do not think you should be on here "hawking" your product. That is not what this forum is for.

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I'm not hawking anymore than anyone else that talks about gels, patches or injections. Merely pointing out that there are options for pellet therapy. I never implied that receiving any dose over 450mg was bad, just that their FDA approval is specific for men and only for 6 pellets. Doctors certainly can dose off label, and in the case of Testopel, they probably do quite frequently so that their patients can see symptom relief. Is all the grief you guys are giving me because I'm a woman? I hope not, like I've said before, I am on testosterone pellet therapy and have had great results! Ask your doctor if he would put a woman on Testopel, Testim, Androgel, or any other testosterone therapy. Most women by age 40 have cut their production of testosterone by at least 50%. So when they stop their estrogen production you can understand why they are so "hormonal"...lol!! Testosterone accounts for about 90% of their symptoms! Thanks guys! I'll leave y'all alone, and accept my apologies if I have offended anyone!

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simple fact....we are all users, not vendors.

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Agreed Chris, I am a user also, but most forms of testosterone therapy are not available to women....I just happen to be passionate about my treatment as all you are with yours. I may have wrongly assumed the men on this blog might like to be informed of all options.

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To me .... it's not the information that was passed along, but your decidedly 'questionable' attitude that went along with it. For me, personally, I am always wanting for any information that I can get re: HRT. Just my opinion.

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I didn't read all your posts. You may have got carried away a little. Still though, I'm glad to learn about another form of pellet therapy. i've been on Testopel for a year, great results, but always on the look out for something better/cheaper. My Ins pays ok, get 12 pellets . So don't agree where you said wold only pay for 6.
Thanks for the info

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The first turn off for me is when people start railing on other products to boost theirs up. If your product has any credibility it will be able to stand up on its own by you just stating its pros and cons. It sounds too much like a politicians speech (or an informercial) when you have to point out what is wrong with the other product just to make yours sound better. moving on.....

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Agreed

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