How Long After Taking Subutex Can You Take Another Opiate?

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I took an 8 mlg subutex about 24 hours ago. Is it safe to take roxicodone or other pain meds?

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No, they need to be separated by about 72 hours, in order for the other pain medications to be effective.

The FDA classifies this medication as a narcotic analgesic, so it has the potential to be habit forming and may cause side effects, such as nausea, dizziness, drowsiness, dry mouth and constipation.

Is there anything else I can help with?

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Subutex has no opiate blocker in them so you should be fine... suboxone on the other hand has an opiate blocker therefore depending on your body's tolerance and whatever you may or may be able to take other opioids... But I know from experience Subutex is different from suboxone, another opiate medication should work.

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I took a 1/4 dose of Bunavail this morning. How long will it remain in my system? Also, can I take a valium with it or are they contraindicated?

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The bupenorphine is the blocker dummy...therefor subutex also has a blocker. ...

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I am on Bunavil. Yes you can take a Valium with it. I take colodopins and Xanax with mine. Just be careful and do t take large doses for combining the two in large amounts can cause upper respiratory distress.

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Why are you posting replies when you are obviously completely naive about the real effects of subs??

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My reply was for Verwon as I see him giving really generalized uneducated replies on many suboxone posts ... this is some pretty bad forum software as well ... when I hit reply in his box it should connect to his reply ... just sayin ... I did find some real advice on other posts of this forum however .. love to all

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Why do people on these drug threads act like such ****s??

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Look dawg, I took 3 perc 10s and I'm on 8mg sub's myself and I feel great. It just depends on you, not the pills, cuz I only waited 24 hours.

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Wow, a lot a misinformed ideas floating about. Subutex vs Suboxone. Buprenophine, the primary blocker of opiates, and add Naloxone, and withdrawals most likely to intensify. The main proponent is Buprenophine, but more important is the Half-Life of both Buprenophine and Naloxone. Buprenophine has a Half-Life average of around 35-45 hours. Naloxones Half-Life is shorter at around 6-12 hours. Although Naloxones Half-Life is relatively short, taking any opiates sooner then 72 hours is most likely to be wasteful, and could be painful. Naloxone is supposed to be a way to stop abuse via injection, but it does more then that. Naloxone is supposed to have a very low rate of absorption, but personally, I' am not so sure. I take Subutex, but on a few occasions had to take Suboxone, and I thought my head was going to pop. Suboxone has a 4/1 ratio whereas Subutex is straight Buprenophine. Precipitated withdrawals would be horrifying if you were to take an opiate within hours of taking Suboxone, but you'd still get negative results taking an opiate after the Naloxone wears off due to the long Half-Life of Buprenophine. Personally, I'd put at minimum a 72 hour, or greater space between mixing Subutex with any full opiate. It's very important to consider the Half-Life of any medication. Personally, I think the drug companies market Suboxone, and the FDA goes for the ride on a gravy train of profits. If 1mg of Naloxone can cause such a massive headache, what else is it doing ? Subutex gets the job done, and personally, I believe it to be much safer for daily consumption. Just remember, Half-Life is a major factor with any medications.

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Lost my pain dr and primary care dr primary care was no help I do have chronic pain but don't like how I feel when I don't have med tried to explain to them I am tolerant to pain med and need more then is perscribed so I heard about subutex and from oct till now a friend has given me a few to get by but not sure if taken right dosage want help from a sub dr told her everything and after I told her I was getting from friend from oct till till now she said oh ok then hung up why would she do this when I'm reaching out for help please I need help don't know what to do

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Never tell a doctor that you are getting meds from someone else because it is completely illegal to take someone else's prescription that is why the doctor hung up on you. I have been on Subutex for four years for chronic pain and it works great for me. I am prescribe 16 mg a day and I usually take between 4 and 8 mg a day sometimes more depending on my pain level. My doctor is not a pill mill and treat me very well he writes my prescriptions for six months at a time. If you have any questions about Subutex I would be more than happy to help you

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I did not know what to do because they would have taken a drug panel and then found this in my system, so that is why I told her the truth. So what would you have done?

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Can you take Ativan for subutex withdrawal for anxiety? I'm in my 96hr and starting to have anxiety.

Can I take tylenol-3 to help with withdrawals? Will it help?

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I agree new to this shame you cantando get amswers from a velocímetro doctor i feel Like i am so misinderstood by pain managament doctors in in the twilight zone Leed surgery but they wont hice me meds so im taking zubsolv for pain

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Wow .my phone is stuck in the foreign lánguida zona

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Ativan will help its a benzo. If you were on Subutex for a long time the withdrawl will last you at least a month.

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i posted and my phone seemed to have been stuck in a different language. it was titled pain management doctors and how demeaning they treat you

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Wow I guess I won't be getting into anymore discussions if people are going to call us dummies. The only dumb thing is NOT to ask questions.

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no unless your doctor gives this to you don't take nothing

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Re: Kitkat (# 2) Expand Referenced Message

Sorry to inform you but you're wrong - bupe itself is a partial blocker.

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Re: Kelly (# 28) Expand Referenced Message

Your doctor should be able to give you all the info of when you can take what unless they are not your meds.

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Re: Jj (# 4) Expand Referenced Message

That is NOT true. Subutex does not have naloxone in it. That’s the opiate blocker. That’s why they prescribe the Tex to pregnant women Incase they need pain medication.

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People Mistakingly call Suboxone Subutex. If you took subutex you can take another opiate. I have been on Subutex for four years for chronic pain. If I want to feel the opiate high from another pill I usually wait 24 to 48 hours after taking Subutex. Subutex is very powerful and last a long time.

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Re: sleepy G (# 9) Expand Referenced Message

Its been 30hrs since I took subutex 8mg. Can o take a few perk 10s and feel them?

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Re: Jj (# 4) Expand Referenced Message

No actually bupenorphine is the narcotic, nalaxone is the blocker!

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I've been taking subutex (the M924s) 8mgs for 3 days now, but haven't taken any in a day and a half. I don't feel too bad, but I only took them for 3 days. I was taking oxy 80s for a week before that and the only reason I took the subs was because I didn't want to be sick. Is it safe for me to take an opiate again? I do concrete and am feeling pain! Please let me know.

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Re: Jj (# 4) Expand Referenced Message

Actually the naloxone is the blocker DUMMY.
Before you start calling other people dummy do your research.

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I’ve been on subutex for 8 years and I'm sick of it. It has made me start taking Xanax for 2 yrs because I feel so anxious! I want to stop all of it. I don't leave the house anymore. I have been in the hospital 6 times for pancreatitis and was on a dilaudid drip and a shot every 3 hrs. I’m hurting and need to switch again but want to try to stay off the subutex. I’m sick of taking it! It’s been 30 hrs since 4 mg that’s all I take for 2 yrs. When I take something for pain I barely use the Xanax. Please, do I wait longer? I don’t know what to do? I'm tired of medications period!!! Please someone tell me, will I get sick? I can’t remember from 2 yrs ago in the hospital. I know when I went to the er they gave me a shot of dilaudid but I felt fine.

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Re: Verwon (# 1) Expand Referenced Message

Dude. If you dont no what ur talking about. Dont say it out load. Or type it ona forum.

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