Endocet Vs Oxycodone (Page 10)

I HAVE BEEN ON OXYCODONE FOR OVER 2 YEARS AND MY DRUG STORE RAN OUT AND GAVE ME ENDOCET? SAID IT WAS THE SAME THING BUT MY BODY TELLS ME THAT IT'S NOT THE SAME. HAS ANYONE ELSE HAD ANY PROBLEMS WITH THIS CHANGE?

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I talked to my pharmacist today as he called me. He DID answer my questions over the phone and I say this because most pharmacies will not even tell you what they have. Anyway, he put on my, my husbands, and my mothers files to NEVER fill any of our meds, doesn't matter what the med is, with Actavis brand. Now, I still have to make sure every month but I do know they have never given Actavis oxycodone/APAP or hydrocodone ( generic Percocet and Norco respectively). I got these from Walgreens because I wasn't going to make it to my pharm on time. My pharmacist said he was going to tell his customers about this and he wished everyone asked questions like I did. Well, first of all, it helps when you know what questions to ask, right? Lol. Not only being a nurse but because of chronic pain, I research everything. I read anything that has to do with the medical field.....it interests me. Now, I will say this......YOU HAVE TO BE THE HEAD OF YOUR OWN MEDICAL CARE! I have always told my patients this. Don't just leave the dr office without knowing exactly what just went on. ASK QUESTIONS OF YOUR DR, PHARMACIST, NURSE, WHATEVER! We cannot guess how you feel or read your mind! If meds are changed DO NOT assume your doc wants you to continue with all your meds! He/she, a lot of the time, are changing a med for a better one ( in his opinion) if current one isn't working the way it should. I have had many patients have serious reactions because they did not stop a drug just added more. Some docs are not good at explaining this....they assume a patient knows everything about their meds. Not so. Do not think it's a stupid question.....the only stupid question is the one not asked! Don't let anyone's attitude deter you from asking what you want to! Anyway.....back to the topic.......

My doctor put me back on hydro today even though it causes headaches....my request. I would rather put up with the headaches than what I have been going through with actacrap! My pharmacist told me, also, for some reason Actavis is 3 times more expensive, his cost, than the other 2 brands and he said something sure isn't right there! So, I wonder, are these big chain pharms getting kick backs for carrying this crap? I, in 2 weeks, am also going to tell my doc to write NO ACTAVIS BRAND MEDICATION! The hydrocodone I took today, from Qualitest, gave me more relief than the oxy from Actavis did! I have to take 2 tabs but that's ok with me as long as they work! I take them up to 3 times a day and I could have taken the Percocet from Actavis 10 times a day with no relief and BAD side effects! Of course I didn't take them ten times, just an example.......they are freaking crap! I ended up seeing my doc today because of the horrible GI problems I have been trying to take care of on my own. What that med did to me is un-freaking-believable! I almost went to the ER last night! This is why I had my pharmacist put NO ACTAVIS ANYTHING in my 70 year old mothers file. What I have been going through would have killed her! I kid you not! For goodness sake, I don't think this is going to come to a quick solution! It took them about 7 years to fix their Wellbutrin XL 300mg mistake. Oh, this gets better (insert sarcasm), the FDA approved the 300mg WITHOUT having it analyzed because the 150mg Wellbutrin XL worked so of course the 300 would work! I read this on The People's Pharmacy website. Many people commit suicide....they used this med for BiPolar disorder and major depression. Evidently it never occurred to them that it was an FDA/pharmaceutical mistake. They thought the med just wasn't working anymore and they had had enough! The FDA said something like this..... " we don't know HOW we let that happen but it did." Can you freaking believe that? WTH is next?

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Oh, I brought up Amneal to my pharmacist. They do not work for my mother and I don't want her getting them anymore. Qualitest, for a generic, seems to work best for her! I have to agree. Amneal is crap but they sure have not caused the horrid side effects Actavis did to me! IMO, Qualitest makes a decent oxycodone/acetaminophen ( Percocet) as well. I went back to generic Norco from them. I do not EVER want to chance what happened to me from Actavis oxy to happen again. Hydrocodone isn't the best for me but I can at least live with it!

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Trish, you are absolutely correct! I am SO SORRY that comment was made! Some people should never leave comments! I have never judged ANYONE on any kind of controlled substance! Not even an addict! It's none of my business why people take the meds they do unless they are my patient and I still don't judge them for it! It's very easy for people to do when they have never had to endure chronic pain for any reason! You cannot judge another persons pain.....2 people with the exact same disease/injury can have 2 totally different levels of pain! I swear, we are treated like if we had a choice we would still take these awful meds! I would love to be able to enjoy my life, pre-injury, without meds, but that is never GOING to happen so I can only do the best I can day by day.
I understand people emotional pain and anger towards drugs, even legal ones, but it doesn't give them the right to judge everyone! Again, I am so sorry. I hope you are feeling better and your prognosis is a good one!

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Oxycodone is one drug. Endocet is tylonal and oxycodone It actually works faster. But you opiate receptors may want what they are used to. You body knows the difference.

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Which drug stores still carry Endocet? My Riteade says their changing suppliers and will no longer be able to supply Endocet. The gen. Generic of Percocet does no more than Tylenol for my husbands pain. The formulary drug for BCBS doesn't even list the brand name of Percocet. I live in Bucks county but I'll go any where to at least get the Endocet.

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What a truly nice apology. Well done.

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I fell bad, terrible for your loss and I understand your harsh feeling towards the pain clinics. As in my case I had a car accident with 4 slipped disc and rheumatoid arthritis sevral fingers are twisted and at times I cant use my hands and feet. But in defense of pain clinics im on low dose pain meds and given drug panels every month and a pill count. Like everything else theyre good and bad in everything. God bless and peace be with you and your family

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I have been on endocet 10/325 for over 10 years now. I rx'd 2 every 6 hours. Over a the last 5 years I have went from 220 lb to a low of 100.3 lb fully dressed. After trips to several drs, and all of them doing complete physicals no 1 could explain what was going on with me. 1 day I drove by a brand new DR's office so I thought I will stop and see this Dr. I went in and seen her and after taking my medical history ( which is quite extensive, I was in a motorcycle accident in 6/82 and broke every bone on the right side of my body, then a car accident on 1985 that I reshattered my right knee and suffered numerous permanent back injuries, to date I have had 13 corrective surgeries and I am still in a mountain of pain) well after telling the Dr that i had been on class 2 pain killers for the last 32 years she immediately came to the conclusion that the narcotics had taken my apetite away and were starting to effect my hearing and vision. She put me on a 2500 calorie high protein daily diet. That was 4 months ago. I have since cut my percocet consumption from 240 month to 90 and some days I don't take any. 4 months ago I weighed in @ 100.3 lbs. I now weigh 138 lbs. I feel much better but I continue to wonder why over the last 4 years all the Dr's I saw none of them could tell me the opiate use was at the center of my problem. Could it be they were to busy writing my scripts so I would come back to them???

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I was passing a kidney stone and the cvs gave me endocet and didnt help me at all

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Hi I'm so sorry your having this issue but I'm completely opposite I need endocet and can't find them anywhere I'm very sick any help where I can go to fill my script

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Nica - I know if you go to Walgreens and ask for endocet they will order it for you they usually don't have it in stock but I have had it ordered for me many times without a problem just usually takes a few days for them to get it in - however I guess each state is different so you might have to check around to CVS and other pharmacies too. I wouldn't call them though I would go in and show them your rx because they won't give out any information over the phone.

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Endocet is ceasing to be available NOT because it isn't available, but because the manufacturer charges more for it than Watson and other generic manufacturers charge for their oxy/apap versions.. I'm having to switch Medicare Part D plan to a company that reimburses more for generic oxycodone/apap. My current one pays $136/180, there are several that seem to pay $174/180. My pharmacist was losing $11/bottle over his cost.

I recognize most with traditional employer health plans don't have that option. I think the only option is to harass the insurer (yeah, lots of luck) to reimburse actual cost, not some contract rate made up a year ago.

Part of the problem is that because it is the same manufacturer as Percocet, drug addicts seek out Endocet, on the theory that they are identical. That wasn't my experience, but after good luck with Endocet, when I took Percocet for a zillion dollars more a pill and I didn't start laying golden eggs, it just didn't seem worth it.

I FEEL like I do better with Endocet than Percocet (again, no golden eggs). Watson feels like half an Endocet, some of the others feel like less or even very expensive sugar pills. I personally find it fascinating that some do better with Endocet, while others vehemently prefer Watson.

The gene for the liver enzyme that metabolizes oxycodone is one of the most variable in the human body, slow metabolizers, fast metabolizers, even ultra fast metabolizers are VERY common. 22% of Norwegians have problems with oxycodone due to altered metabolism. I suspect a small variation in formula could make those variations worse. I have no evidence to think this, but I suspect generic manufacturers fudge their batches, putting in a few less percent here and there when they no there is no inspector around. Perhaps they're cheaper because it really is quality control..

In a number of supplements and meds, various isomers of the active ingredients make a BIG difference. We've all heard of L-DOPA, but no one hears about D-DOPA. Same molecule, just mirror image arrangement. Sometimes our bodies only like, or accept, one configuration. In another example, the L (left) isomer of a plants fragrance smells like mint, the D (right) isomer smells like caraway. Adderall gets screwed with now and then with some fudging of the isomers. I suspect our various genetic differences make one or the other better for some of us, but nothing in the literature says oxycodone has to be 60% L isomers and 40% D isomers (or whatever), so cut-rate companies make whatever, not identical molecules to what is in percocet.

Since there is variation in what's good for whom, in studies we cancel each other out and it looks like all oxycodone/APAP generics are the same. Hopefully, as we get more genetically personalized medicine this will get worked out (my full sequencing was supposed to be done 2 yrs ago and I'm still waiting--computers aren't always all they are cracked up to be).

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I thought endocet was percocet? Percocet is oxycodone and so it endocet.

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CVS may have Qualitest, a company owned by Endo, which manufactures Endocet. Try that and see if it helps.

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This is not true it dose matter if you have been taking the brand name drug and then take the generic there not them, I wish people would stop saying that everyone is different thank you every much...

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It worked better for me and I was told that it was made by the same makers as the brand name, Percocet.

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Response to jojo...I agree with all ur posts.

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My personal opinion is people react to meds differently. The ENDOCET has not helped me at all where as the oxycodone I was taking before did.

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Hello Jim, First of all, you have to understand that everyone's body is different! If you want to get really technical about it, then you can say that Oxycodone and Endocet are the same; but that is where the comparison STOPS!! I honestly could not care less if some proud and cocky "expert" "declares" that there is NO difference between the two!! Oh yes there is!! Definitely and most certainly: FOR ME!! Oxycodone (10-325) will stop my pain for two hours, whereas Endocet (10-325) will stop my pain for six!! Absolutely and most definitely!! And personally, I cannot stand the practice of CVS Pharmacy! If "they" do not have the brand you want, they will NOT even call you to find out if you would be satisfied with a substitution!! You must be proactive and educate the workers at your pharmacy to do the obvious, or they won't be smart enough to figure it out! No one, these days, thinks outside the box!! It is a sad commentary on the state of the intellect of our country, while at the same time it's also quite hysterical!!

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Someone I know takes 7.5 perks but ran out early and was hurting pretty bad. So she took 10/325 / E712 Endocet to last the 2 days before she went to her pain doctor, but she also had a u/a and is worried that the results will come up diff. So if anyone that knows could tell me if it's the same or diff would help so much? Hoping to God for her as she been on meds for yrs and wont to be ready to look for a another doc.

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