i was on subutex 8mg and ive been reading about these new subutexs with the 8 and the arrow on them. i got a different kind there zubsolv 5.7 mg/1.4 mg ? i dont understand is one of these pills equal to a 8 mg? there small white round tablet imprinted with 5.7 on the front?
171Michelle Martin Says:
I have been experiencing withdrawl symptoms while being on zubsolv. Can you tell me why? And if you take it twice a day how many hrs apart do you take it.?
5.7 is the same as 8 strip. Zubsolv gets in yr system quicker and w little waste, as a strip may waster 2-3 mg on a 8 mg strip. The zubsolv, to me, is stronger, but I also get way more neaseu than I've ever had. Really I want off all this. Be normal again.
Get off all of it I've taken it all and have been on Suboxone strips, Subutex and now zubsolv 5.7 and I'm on day 4 without anything and I have almost zero withdrawls.... I told myself if God brought me this far without a withdrawal I'm not going back however I will add in that the past two weeks I started tapering off. I would go one day without and then take one the next day after that I would go two days without then take one then I would go 3 days without then take another now I have a whole one in my bedroom that is a reminder of what I don't want to be anymore or ever again. I have a 7 year old daughter, 6 year old son and a 8 month old daughter and they are my motivation they deserve me if a addict of five years can do this you all can and before I stopped I prayed and begged God that if he would give me no withdrawals I would stop and idk how I'm not having withdrawals that are keeping me in bed other than my mindset of never going back and the prayer to God that had to mean something. All I can say the longer you wait the harder it will be and I do know everyone is different but this has been my experience so far. Good luck!!!!
First off the subutext does not have the blocker in it so I wouldn't recommend it. I take the zubsolv and I like it but I hear it will be hard to come off of. I guess we will see because I am ready. I take the 5.7 and my Dr says they are equal to an 8mg Suboxone or the other. I'm more than ready to be off it all though. Good luck to you and keep in mind if you are serious and want this, it will work, it will help. And those you tell you they make you high are either livers or taking other drugs as well. I don't care what they say.
I was on zubsolv for 2 weeks, I'm on day 6 no zubsolv and it gave me the worst withdrawals I have had in a long time. Had to pop some norcs to get me this far starting to get over it, stay away from zubsolv
166Just another head Says:
I would like to add though... My doctor did tell me that he had several patients complain about the Zubsolv not working as well as Suboxone but he up'd the dosage to the 8.6/2.1mg and had better results from his patients
165Just another head Says:
I took Subutex 3 yrs ago, switched to Suboxone pills, then strips past 2 years and now the past month Zubsolv. The Subutex was a "high" taking them but definetly hard to taper off of. I liked the Suboxone but seemed I was always sleepy & gained a few pounds on them. The Zubsolv definitely is better tasting & has virtually eliminated any cravings or withdrawals but I feel absolutely no type of high or euphoric feeling. I was taking 10-15 Loritab & 1-3 OxyContin a day & the Zubsolv only took prolly 10 days/doses & I have NO withdrawal symptoms. It works & if your serious about getting clean & feeling normal again it's the best in my opinion...
I've been on Zubsolv for a total of 5yrs. The 1st time I lived in Pgh., then Cleve. I went to two different docs in Arizona. And Arizona has never heard of them. As I was moving to Cleve the docs in Arizona just started hearing about Zubsolv. They work great for me and taste a lot better than Subs or Subutex. I got Subutex in Arizona.
My dr told me they were equal to an 8mg strip. Although. I was wanting off all of it all together and told him most of it was in my head so he may said that to wing me down a bit. I like them much better. I've been in suboxone for far too long and I just want off all of it. I'm positive I'm strong enough, it's just that ritual or something. Idk?? We have tilled about getting the shot but I do not have an issue wit drinking at all never have and would like to be able to have a glass of wine with girls still or a Long Island tea at the comedy show. Can I get any opinions on that??
Okay I'm starting to believe this is a smart forum. I went from 2 years on a nice white, round 8/2 pill generic to Zubsolv. It did take about a month, but with the benzos, gabapentin, and cymbalta… without any drinking or alcohol and I feel great every morning. Wach what you read on here
161Dump Baclofen Says:
This is another way that buprenorphine can be manufactured and the drug companies are making MILLIONS. There is no reason that the Sub 8/Nal 2 should have been approved. Lessening the dose a couple of milligrams is just another way for them to put another buprenorphine project on the market for the sheer $$$. I would tell the MD that the drug wears off quicker (it does), and the lesser dose puts you in a state of withdrawal and you want to be put back in the 8/2...tell him that it is FAR LESS EXPENSIVE and far more EFFECTIVE than Zubsolv--and you can't afford it. Period. They have made a fortune thanks to "we opiate addicts" and it's a crime...something needs to be done.
Zubsolv is TERRIBLE. It's nothing like subutex or suboxone at all! As addicts the stimulating feeling we get from the drug is a big part of it working towards recovery. As an addict when i did dose it was with whatever drug was around, mostly opiates. The "euphoric" feeling helps satisfy your body and mind needs which for me was the first step on a long road to recovery. Not to mention if your taking illicit drugs you never know what your gonna actually get. Personally having taken subutex, suboxone and Zubsolv, the first two are great but Zubsolv is bulls***. If they have any good reviews its probably someone from their company...good luck with everything. I wish you the best.
Yea dude I've been on suboxone generic tabs for 3 years (with a couple klonopin, they have been very therapeutic) BUT ive been switched to this bulls*** Zubsolv 8mg equivalent. There is no euphoria, no energy, I get grumpy, and most of all I just get tired and hungry. If I take a nap, I'll be in full withdrawals in the pm. This medication is, as of now, just keeping me well for a slight time from not having the medication itself. I'm pissed, I won't have any Zubsolv for tomorrow, then I see my apathetic a**hole doc the next morning. I gotta see wtf I can pay out of pocket bc unless my body gets used to this zub-s*** fast, its time to waste another great summer getting off a medication.
Daisy I agree with you . I like it a lot better than the suboxone myself . Can u please tell me what company or website I could get this savings coupon from because for thirty a month with a $75 coupon and no insurance it is still costing me $175 for thirty
I've been on methadone, then sebutex, then suboxone, then zubsolvs, then back to suboxone...I am currently prescribed Three 8mg strips per day. Prior to this i was taking Three 5.6mg Zubs per day. I must say the suboxone is stronger, but the zubs will still keep you feeling okay. There not as bad as to think you will take them and still feel sick.. like some people claim. The zubs were designed and marketed to be equivalent to an 8 mg suboxone but in my opinion they do fall a little short, but not much.
Get off of ALL of sweetie. Just wean yourself off of everything. ..please
I feel exactly the same. Took subutex for over 2 years then forced to switch to this Zubsolv garbage and it feels as if I haven't taken anything since my last dose of subutex, this stuff might help some ppl but it doesn't work for me. Now I'm stuck with it AT LEAST for the next 3 weeks and have no assurance I'll get switched back when my next appt comes around. I'm definitely calling my Dr and addressing this before going back because I'm not gonna continue paying for something that's not working.
Chris, i simply agree, i have been on 8 mg films for 2 years. Last month my doc had to switch me to zubsolv, because of my new insurance, (go figure) don't fix something that isn't broke, but anyhow, I've been on the 5.7's zubsolv and I can tell a BIG difference between sub 8 and zubsolv 5.7, meaning zubsolv isn't near as strong and I agree dosing should be adjusted. I was on 2 1/2 films a day, now I'm on 3 zubsolv's, but it does take more of a dose in my opinion but everyone is different. I honestly dont mind them, they r 35$ cheaper for a month supply (for me) but all around I guess tomorrow morning ill have to tell the doc to up it to 4 - 5.7's a day or 3 - 8.6's. If anyone has experienced this or has had the next dose up from zub 5.7 please share ur thoughts and opinions.
Orexo's claim that 5.7 mg of Zubsolv is equivalent to 8 mg of Suboxone is BLATANTLY MISLEADING. The data that they use to support this claim is comparing the Zubsolv tablets to the Suboxone tablets, NOT the films, and studies that have compared the efficacy of the Suboxone films vs Suboxone tablets show that the bioavailability of buprenorphine from the films is significantly greater than from the sublingual tablets, in the range of 16-28%. So despite what Orexo claims most people switching from Suboxone films to Zubsolv tablets will need to adjust their dosage.
You will have withdrawals. I would highly suggest you get one more refill and wean yourself off. Good luck sweetie.
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