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chad Says:
 
i was on subutex 8mg and ive been reading about these new subutexs with the 8 and the arrow on them. i got a different kind there zubsolv 5.7 mg/1.4 mg ? i dont understand is one of these pills equal to a 8 mg? there small white round tablet imprinted with 5.7 on the front?

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John Says:
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U know if u get back to suboxone now from tramadol just do it for one month And start with very small dose ,then u can get clean with almost no withdrawl

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jillybean Says:
 
I've been on suboxon for two years and my insurance want pay for it anymore they will pay for zubsolv my Dr switched me over yesterday to zubsolv I take 5.7 x2 a day I'm so sleepy and having headaches and bad dreams already my pharmacy said this dose is actually higher than what I was taking of the sub oxen I was taking 2 8mg a day of suboxon how am I taking more now than before because they are suppose to equal the same my pharmacy told me to take one instead of two he said the reason I'm having these side effects is because my dosage is actually higher now that I'm on zubsolv is that true why am I feeling different from the change over

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Amber Says:
 
Walter... Hello.. Just wanted to let you know that Bupe works for me in the same way as an helper with mood. I take bupe for pain management.. figured out it was the only thing that helped in multiple areas of my overall emotional, mental, and physical well being. I also don't notice much of a tolerance build-up, like that of typical opiate pain medication. I started Zubsolv last week ... so far so good...

Zubsolv Details

This link talks a little about the study specific to anti-depressant properties...A clinical trial conducted at Harvard Medical School in the mid-1990s demonstrated that a majority of unipolar non-psychotic patients with major depression refractory to conventional antidepressants and electroconvulsive therapy could be successfully treated with buprenorphine. Clinical depression is currently not an approved indication for the use of any opioid, but some doctors are realizing its potential as an antidepressant in cases where the patient cannot tolerate or is resistant to conventional antidepressants.

Both mental and physical pain are regulated by the same chemical networks in the brain. Depression is commonly accompanied by comorbid pain symptoms. Endogenous opiates, such as endorphins and enkephalins, mediate pain perception in the body. In the brain, they are significantly involved in regulating mood and behavior, and decreasing the perception of pain and depression. Even a partial agonist at the µ-opioid receptor (like buprenorphine) releases serotonin and dopamine in the CNS, but to a lesser degree than full agonists do. This slight release of serotonin and dopamine may also contribute to the anti-depressant properties of buprenorphine, especially those with a pre-existing mental disorder.

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Amber Says:
 
Walter... I recently went to see a Dr to get put back on Subs for chronic pain and mood/depression crap that comes with CPP. I never have been able to get to a comfortable point on regular opiates prescribed for pain ever again after I built up a tolerance for them. Bupe, however, worked very great for me. I took it for a few months for the physical withdraw symptoms of quitting OC. Even with insurance Suboxone is very expensive. Luckily, I was able to try month of Zubsolv for free w/coupon from my Dr. So far, it has been okay. I am pretty sensitive to changes in medication so I was expecting the worst. I think that they have worked equally well, and the taste is better. They do dissolve quicker too, for the most part... I think I just have a weird case of dry mouth most of the time.... Anyway, hope that helped.. I would deff give it a try... I know bupe is the only thing I have found that does an all around good job for me. Mood, focus, sleep, pain, etc...

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blide Says:
 
Ive been on Zubsolv the past 3 days, ive took subozone/subutex for the past 5 years daily. Zubsolv is absolute dog s***. I've took x3 the recommended dose and get absolutely nothing from it. Guess ill call my doctor on monday, of course hes gunna think im full of s*** and make me suffer through this s*** for a month. F*** zubsolv in my opinion, the way it feels right now, ill be in withdraws this evening.

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Walter Tang Says:
 
I was taking 16 mg's of Suboxone...The orange pills two times a day for two years...Then the county cut off my funding...It has been four months now and i have relapsed to 6 hydrocodones and 8 tramadol's a day...somehow it doesn't feel the same as it used to....like something has changed inside of me...Will zubsolv help me feel normal again and put me in a better mood?...My mood is not good...even though the hydro and tramadol don't make me feel that great like they used to before I started the two year run of suboxone, I can't seem to stop taking it...i really shouldn't be alive at this point in my life as i have been a hardcore drug user for just over 40 years...I am hoping that zubsolv helps me feel better--more normal--better mood--some energy and motivation...I know this is a tall order...I am on SSDI and only draw a little each month...so...Maybe Zubsolv is less expensive than the 748.00 the 60 8mg orange pills of suboxone were...even though it was getting paid for by the county...Anyone out there have ANY thoughts at all on my odd situation?

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Rubin Says:
 
No according to my doc, 5.7mg of Zubsolv will give you the same effect as 8mg Suboxone film. Zubsolv dissolves very fast and hence gives same concentration of Bupe in your blood. However, since you don't swallow as much saliva (with some bupe) the side effects like constipation will be less.

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vixen Says:
 
If you take the 5.7 and the 1.4 together it is suppossed to be the same as 8mg sub

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Louis E Baxter MD FASAM Says:
 
Hi, Chad. This is a question that would be best answered by your doctor to ensure that you are prescribed the appropriate dosage. ZUBSOLV (buprenorphine and naloxone) sublingual tablet (CIII) is available in two doses: 5.7-mg/1.4-mg buprenorphine/naloxone, round tablet and 1.4-mg/0.36-mg buprenorphine/naloxone, triangular tablet. ZUBSOLV is indicated for the maintenance treatment of opioid dependence and should be used as part of a complete treatment plan that includes counseling and psychosocial support.

Because ZUBSOLV tablets deliver more active ingredient to the bloodstream, it allows patients to use a lower strength, thereby reducing the amount of available drug for potential misuse and diversion. In fact, ZUBSOLV contains less buprenorphine than other buprenorphine/naloxone-containing sublingual tablets but achieves similar systemic exposure.

An effective treatment approach for opioid dependence is a comprehensive one that includes pharmacological therapy, counseling, and psychosocial support.

Do not inject ("shoot-up") ZUBSOLV. Injecting ZUBSOLV may cause life-threatening infections and other serious health problems. Injecting ZUBSOLV may cause serious withdrawal symptoms such as pain, cramps, vomiting, diarrhea, anxiety, sleep problems, and cravings.

ZUBSOLV is a controlled substance (CIII) because it contains buprenorphine, which can be a target for people who abuse prescription medicines or street drugs. Keep your ZUBSOLV in a safe place to protect it from theft. Never give your ZUBSOLV to anyone else; it can cause death or harm them. Selling or giving away this medicine is against the law.

Note: I am compensated by Orexo to provide expertise and for my time to post.

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Daisy Says:
 
I hope I am doing this right, as I am new to message boards and forums...

Anyway, on topic, I just switched to zubsol 3 days ago and will share how it has been for me thus far. I used the coupon my doctor gave me, which can be used twice a month. Of my prescription, I filled 12 tabs at 5.7mg (equal to 8mg suboxone) for about $25. This is a decent savings from what I was paying for the suboxone film with coupon. The pill itself is better in that it is smaller, devolves better, and has less of an aftertaste. The bioavailability of zubsolv also seems to be noticeably better, which brings up a concern...tapering. I had decided it was time to taper from the film, an easier decision to adhere to when you don't really feel the effects of your medication. But the new zubsolv worked for me the way the suboxone tabs did the first couple days I took it, giving me that slight euphoric feeling and a nudge (motivation). But perhaps this too will only be the initial reaction, lasting just a couple/few days, and instead will do a better job of allowing me to go longer between doses. It's going to be somewhat more challenging to cut the dose down, as this pill is small and not perforated, but will figure that out since it is far superior to the film in every other way.

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Verwon Says:
 
Subutex contains just the narcotic Buprenoprhine as the active ingredient, so an 8mg tablet of it contains that much of the Buprenorphine

Where the Zubsolv is actually an equivalent to Suboxone, because it contains the Buprenorphine (in this case 5.7mgs) and Naloxone (in this case 1.4mgs).

Learn more Subutex details here.

Learn more Suboxone details here.

So no, they aren't equal to the 8mg Subutex tablets.

This medication is a narcotic opiate, so it has the potential to be habit forming and may cause side effects, such as nausea, dizziness, drowsiness, dry mouth and constipation.

Is there anything else I can help with?

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