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chad Says:
 
i was on subutex 8mg and ive been reading about these new subutexs with the 8 and the arrow on them. i got a different kind there zubsolv 5.7 mg/1.4 mg ? i dont understand is one of these pills equal to a 8 mg? there small white round tablet imprinted with 5.7 on the front?

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Joey Says:
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I know what that is like. Work makes it a little more nerve wracking because one can easily worry that this process can have a negative impact on one's performance at work. You have the right idea though. GRADUALLY! Thanksgiving seems like a good goal! If at any point it does get hard, just remember that there is light at the end of the tunnel. I can honestly say that I am much happier now that I do not have to worry about taking it every day. Light at the end of the tunnel!!!

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Hope Says:
 
Hi Joey...thanks for asking. I'm still taking the full dose every day (1.4 / .36) because work has been incredibly busy and I can't afford to lose any energy right now. I'm hoping this next month will be a little less demanding work-wise so I can start taking half a pill each day. Right now my goal is to ween myself slowly and be completely off of it by Thanksgiving. Fingers crossed :-)

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Joey Says:
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Hope,

How are you doing now? How is your energy level?? Are you feeling better?

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Angie Says:
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I've been trying zubsolv for a week or two. No, in not feeling the same but have sense read more about it and am going to give it a try for another week. This was an insurance problem. I'm not able to get my insurance to pay until I've given the zubsolv a try. Dissolving the zubsolv seems so easy but it's not for me. It seems to cause more saliva and goes around my mouth and I swallow it. I need to put it in and not let it move until it's dissolved. You can always ask your doc to change it back and pay cash. I found the subtex to be the cheapest. Good luck to all of you. I use this drug for pain not drug dependence problem even though I'm Dependant now. I have found this to be a better alternative to other drugs and my pain is controlled by it. I was on suboxone 8/2 films two x's a day. Now I'm trying zubsolv 5.7/1.4 3 x's a day. I don't know about this but I'm going to give it a try. Here's to hoping...

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Hope Says:
 
I'm so happy for you Joey! I'm sure it's an awesome feeling to be COMPLETELY done with Zub! I cannot wait for the day when I can say the same. Tapering slowly is truly the key here. My body tells me, in no uncertain terms, if I'm weening myself too quickly. My ONLY issue is lack of energy. I feel it mentally and physically. But I've never been more determined to accomplish something in my life and soon I will be standing on the top of that very high mountain with you Joey. Everyone on this site is in my thoughts and prayers. And thanks again Joey for all your help :-)

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Joey Says:
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Hopeful,

Switching from suboxone to zubsolv is no big deal. I made the transition from 8/2 suboxone to 5.7/1.4 zubsolv no problem. I wouldn't even say I am an extremely strong willed person if that helps. I am totally off of it now though. I have been off of zubsolv, suboxone etc for about a month now. If that is your goal then that's great! Taper slooooowwly though.

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hopeful Says:
 
I do not have any experience getting off of the zubs I am having to switch to zubs from being on suboxone for two year and was looking to find any positive experience from anyone all I am seeing most threads I am only seeing people saying neg things which is scary. I was glad to see yours. sounds like you are doing really well! hope it continues

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PainSucks Says:
 
If I were you I would to a pain management clinic. Maybe you have already checked one of these out before but you never mention it and I think they could come up with a great plan for you.

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Joey Says:
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I meant to say 5.7/1.4 zub is equivalent to a 8/2 sub in terms of bioavailability. Sorry for the confusion!!! Good Luck!!!!!!

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Hope Says:
 
Joey, thank you for the advice. I will follow it!

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Joey Says:
 
Hope,

I also wanted to mention that, as you know, zubs can be tricky to measure which is why my doc switched me back over to subs because the Buprenorphine doses are in whole numbers if you use the generic tablets ( I think i said capsules in the previous message but I meant tablets). As far as the rate/frequency of tapering, go SLOW! Try going down 1/2 a mg per week (on Saturday) so it gives you two days to adjust before work on Monday. This is what I did anyway. They say that a 5.7/1.4 sub is equivalent to a 8/2 sub in terms of bioavailability which I am sure you knew that already. Anyway, just wanted to throw that out there as well.

- Joey

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Joey Says:
 
Hey Hope it is no problem at all.

I agree the exercise is great for anxiety. Okay, so, When I first started taking the zubsolv a year ago I was on the 5.7/1.4. I stayed on that dose for at least 9 months until I heard that a friend of mine in college finally tapered off of methadone entirely. I suppose that opened my eyes to the fact that I didn't need to zubsolv anymore. So back to the topic. I was originally on suboxone 8/2 for 1 month then my doc. switched me to the sub 5.7/1.4. And as I mentioned, I was on that for at least 9 months. Well, after 9 months, I began taking 3/4 of that pill (4.275/1.05) and that transition went fine. I didn't notice hardly any negative affects. As you may know my anxiety would play tricks on me like make me think I may go into withdrawal or something. In reality, I did not and everything was fine. So a months later, I go to a new doctor because I moved. I indicated to him that I wanted to taper off very gradually and he switched me over to generic suboxone tablets since they are easier to measure etc. He started me on two 2/.5 pills twice a day totaling to 4/1 each day. Well, within a week I went down to 3.5/.875 and a week after that I went down to 3/.75. Once I got to 3/.75, it started getting difficult. Do not let my story discourage you though because you sound a little more strong willed than me. Plus my anxiety is a bittttch. So anyway, I state on 3/.75 for about 3 weeks then decided to do the rapid detox and now, here I am. I feel totally fine. I am still experiencing the insomnia and the anxiety but it gets better each day. I can assure you that you will do a lot better than me!!!! I hope this helps.

Write back.

- Joey

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Hope Says:
 
Thanks Joey! I'm so happy you're doing better and as for your anxiety, we both know that exercise is great for that. If you don't mind me asking, how long did it take for you to stop Zub altogether? The number of days/weeks/months from the moment you started reducing your dosage? How long did you go between each dosage reduction? I hope you don't mind me peppering you with questions. I really appreciate your responses and support Joey :-)

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Joey Says:
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Hey Hope!,

I have to admit, you are being stronger about it than me. I think your plan sounds good. First of all I did a rapid detox at the RDD center in Michigan. They basically assist you through the withdrawals. My taper schedule was kind of weird. I asked my doctor to switch me back to subs because they are easier to measure etc...I went from 8/2 of sub to 3/.75 of sub using the generic brand pills. Once I got there, it got difficult for me (it was the anxiety) I was diagnosed with an anxiety disorder when I was 5. So I am willing to bet your symptoms will be less intense than mine. Anyway, once I was at 3/.75 of sub for awhile I eventually decided that RDD was the best option for me. The only withdrawal symptoms I am experiencing are insomnia fatigue (like you) and anxiety. I am also an avid exerciser. I will run/ swim later.

Expect insomnia and fatigue and some anxiety. Be strong girl. Keep me posted. It's possible you won't experience anxiety though. Everyone is different. The universal symptoms seems to be the insomnia and fatigue though.

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Hope Says:
 
Joey...I waS remiss is saying CONGRATULATIONS to you! I can imagine how happy you are to be free and clear of Zub. Suboxone and now Zub has been a lifesaver for me. I had severe stress headaches which led me to florins with codeine which then led me to taking too much. Trying to stop the codeine was horrendous (I was taking 6 a day for a year!) so the Zub helped greatly. Now I want to be completely off EVERYTHING and just take my vitamins. I also started working out every day about 2 months ago with the hope that it would help my energy levels. I can't really tell if it has but I will keep it up because (1) it's good for me, and (2) I like what it's doing for my body. I really look forward to hearing about any symptoms you're experiencing when you stopped the Zub and I'd also like to know what your schedule of decreasing was. Thanks :-)

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Hope Says:
 
Thank you Joey!!! I am not going to take any drug to help my weaning but thanks for the tips. I have experienced sleeping problems but it's not debilitating. Getting up at 5:15 am to work out is super tough but that's a high-end problem so I'm not gonna complain. My plan is to start taking the 1.4 / .36 Zub every other day for a week or two and then cut the pill in half (halving the dosage) for another 2 weeks. How is your energy level Joey? That is truly my only problem...lack of energy. I have not experienced any other withdrawal symptoms when decreasing dosages. Again, thanks...it's nice to know there's support out there <3

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Joey Says:
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Hope,

Sounds like you are doing well! You are getting very close now.

If you make the jump from the 1.4 mg zub, you will experience withdrawal symptoms. There are medications which help with that. Clonidine, neurontin, Valium and a few others. You will need to taper off of each one of these meds very carefully though... Especially the Valium. Abruptly stopping could result in seizure and possibly death. You can do this!! Hell, you may not need these meds. I will tell you that you will probably have insomnia for a week or so. But each day gets better. Keep me posted!!!

I am officially 2 weeks clean from Zubsolv. I was on a half of a 5.7 each day so I made quite the jump. Good Luck!

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Hope Says:
 
Can anyone chime in on how long it took them to not feel weak and tired while decreasing their Zub dosage as well as after they stopped taking Zub? I started with Sub 8/2 in Feb 14 and am now down to Zub 1.4/.36 once a day. I will start taking it once every other day starting tomorrow. My ONLY issue is a lack of strength and tiredness. Once I stop, when can I expect to feel more energetic? Thank you in advance for any advice you can give!!!

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Why Says:
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You are a drug addict just like all us on this page most people I know get hurt or get a tooth pulled next thing u know u need more and more admit what u are an addict

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Hope Says:
 
I switched from Sub 8 mg/2 to Zub 1.4/.36. For the last 45 days of the Sub I had cut it down to taking half a daily dose and had no issues (other than a little tiredness). I actually forgot to take it at times. Because of insurance issues I'm now on the Zub and have no problems (other than a little tiredness again). I want to get off Zub completely. I do not take any other meds (just vitamins). Any advice from someone who has successfully done this would be greatly appreciated.

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