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Here is good one. Most of these comments are exagerations and symptoms of problems, but I have been taking 40 mg ofViibryd for 2 years. The doctor I am working with has a nurse , who is pill counter. FACT. If you are disabled,on some kind of assistance, have a history of hypertension, anxiety, depression, you are immediately suspect. The assumption is everybody is junkie. I call for refill. I get a supply of a month. Nurse calls me back, and accuses me of hoarding pills, being indolent, stupid, and irresponsible, and a liar. Really?? End of story?? They say do not stop without consulting your doctor. NEVER TOLD ME THAT DOCTOR WOULD BE THE ONE SUDDENLY LEAVING YOU OUT THERE, WITHOUT REFILLS!!!. Gee. I feel better already. Never had any problem taking them, but this is my punishment for being part of the great 47% of Romney's unwashed. One of the most irresponsible things I have ever heard, seen, or experienced

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I can certainly understand your frustration with the whole pharmaceutical industry at large. At the end of the day, patients are just another number, not really treated much better than a domesticated animal unless they shell out more money.

I honestly think no matter who would've won the presidential election that both parties are still puppets being controlled by the same higher form of government who really has the final say as to how things go down. Maybe it's population control as others have stated, or maybe pharmacists are trained to not have a heart..or in Romney's case, a brain too.

In any case, were all searching for answers here and the only thing I can suggest that might help, would be to try changing doctor's and/or pharmacies to hopefully get a more humane set of people to assist you with your medication. After you get a script, you might even want to consider using an online pharmacy so you don't have to deal with those types of judgmental people.

I hope this helps!

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How can you have been on Viibryd for "over two years" when it only became available in January of 2011?

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Sounds like she mixed up the ADD stimulant Vyvanse with the depression med Viibryd haha. No, but seriously, this could explain it. I mean what else can?

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It was wrong and inappropriate for you to say "Most of these comments are exagerations and symptoms of problems;" you need to check yourself and you audacity. I am on this forum b/c I am scared out of my mind from the hallucinations, dreams, shouting, and jumping I went through when trying to sleep last night and you have the gall to say what OTHER people did or did not feel?!! SHAME ON YOU! To everyone else, thank you. I had not been on the 40mg even 2 weeks and I was weening myself off; I did not expect to have affects like that after stopping a medicine.

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To Flo: I agree; he has no right to tell everybody ELSE that they are EXAGGERATING.

Each of us has a very unique experience, and we all have to struggle to put it into words. Why on Earth would anyone post exaggerations on these forums? People need to be able to come here and not feel judged. He speaks of the DEEP PREJUDICE shown, indeed, by the medical profession toward the disabled and those who suffer from depression and health problems; THIS IS TRUE, he is correct, such deep prejudice IS shown! BUT HE THEN EXHIBITS IT HIMSELF by accusing the rest of us of basically being whining wimps; what gives???

I have two snippets of ADVICE: First he should seek emergency medical help at his local ED for the withdrawal, secondly, he should accept that most of the rest of us are suffering as much as if not more than he is, and show us some respect. Basically stop accusing us of lying. I know I'm not!

The drug YOU took is a very powerful one with addictive potential; there are new ones coming out all the time. Sounds like you started taking it during its trial phase if it only came out to the general public in 2011 or later. A lot of docs will give out samples before a drug hits mainstream marketing. Whatever the case, you need to seek emergency medical help and when people show you that inevitable prejudice, show them right back that it is unacceptable, and please, sir, remember that the rest of us deserve that same respect from you! Good Luck with it.

Observations on my own addiction with a little poetic use of hyperbole to express my emotions and subjective experiences: BEWARE of LYRICA (pregabalin)! I can't live with it ~ BUT I CANNOT POSSIBLY LIVE WITHOUT IT! Lyrica has hold of my very SOUL. I am fighting to free myself but after five years I ponder the weighty question of whether there can possibly be a shred of HOPE for the wretched likes of ME: the Pregabalin Goblin!!!

IF YOU MUST TAKE LYRICA, IT WILL VERY LIKELY BECOME THE UTTERLY IRREVOCABLE MISTRESS OF YOUR DESTINY, NO MATTER YOUR WILLPOWER. It makes H look like iced tea!

O sweet LYRICA! ~ It quietly soothes your brain and it kindly takes your pain and it makes you want to sweetly, sadly, GENTLY love it forevermore; and when your sparkling crystal fountainhead of pregabalin runs dry, and you are bereft of the wonder drug of our Brave New World, the "Soma" of Aldous Huxley's classic dystopian vision, which can be none other than Lyrica ~ and O Horrors! ~ you are denied this dear, precious peace in the form of the luminous snowy white powder that is Lyrica, and ~ WITHDRAWAL ~ O Torment of Stygian Depths! ~ you will endure the dreaded humiliation and mortification and agony of full withdrawal from Lyrica; and when it hits, you will die a thousand times every hour of every day, in torture beyond any and all attempts at description. YOU WILL BURN AWAY IN DESPERATE FEVER FROM THE INSIDE OUT.

Drenched in sweat, shivering uncontrollably, vomiting, weeping, hallucinating, gasping for breath, staggering from one room to the next, barely sleeping, even suffering sudden and dangerously violent convulsive seizures! Pregabalin withdrawal is beyond HELL!

And then ~ O Joy! YOU FINALLY SCORE! As I did this morning, finally obtaining my Lyrica refill from the pharmacy. (I bought some milk and cereal too whilst I was there) ~ so, okay, okay, guys; I know that isn't exactly like getting H or blow or crystal meth from a shady Dealer in a rat-infested back alley in the seamier portions of town, but bear with me, okay? Allow me a wee bit of poetic license, because scoring is scoring, no matter how low-key and "legit". ~~~

So, likewise, my unknown colleague: when Lyrica again opens her loving, cold arms to you, to alleviate your desperate need, to cool your frantic fever: she will give you that special ice-kiss that sets her utterly alone on a highest crystal mountaintop away from all other addictive drugs. THERE IS NOTHING LIKE LYRICA.

So, there are MANY, many powerful drugs out there that will indeed create HAVOC in the lives of trusting patients who take them and then find themselves suddenly cut off!

Now, compare & contrast: narcotic withdrawal, though horribly painful and unpleasant, rarely kills. It WILL make you desperately sick for about two weeks if you have a serious narcotic habit, especially if you're mainlining. But honey, it probably won't kill you. It will just FEEL that way for awhile, but if you don't start using again, you can wait it out and get clean. If you have a serious street narcotic habit, your habit itself, and the methods you must use to acquire the means to sustain it, will most likely kill you. GET HELP!!!

But, can withdrawal from OTHER types of addictive controlled substances actually cause the death of the patient or user? Patently, YES. It isn't common, but it isn't impossible either.

Again, compare & contrast: Delirium Tremens from withdrawal from heavy alcohol abuse, and withdrawal from prescribed barbiturates, produce potentially lethal withdrawal effects. I know because I was on phenobarb for awhile as an adolescent but was suddenly taken off it, by a doc who as it turns out was being investigated by the DEA.

I was just a kid, taking my seizure med on time every day in my then-regimented "Straight A student type A achiever" life. I was a "Good Kid," but I didn't know until I was abruptly taken off the phenobarb that I was an "accidental addict". The resulting withdrawal very nearly killed me: no hyperbole here, no sarcasm; I'm serious. Among other things, I had terrible tonic-clonic (grand mal) seizures!

Well, guess what, boys 'n' girls in Lyrica-Land!!! LYRICA WITHDRAWAL IS WORSE EVEN THAN THAT. Again no hyperbole here (I know I've used both hyperbole and satirical humor elsewhere in this essay, but not here. I literally say and mean THAT IN SOME CASES LYRICA WITHDRAWAL CAN KILL YOU. I'm lucky mine didn't.

And, think my Doc's a hard-a$$? No, he's just trying to be a good Doc and NOT AN ENABLER. Well, okay, the guy can be a hard-a$$, when all the cards are on the proverbial table and the symbolic chips are down; he has to be. And he's put me in my place a few times, right 'n' proper, and will brook no interference on my part; he treats me with respect but lets me know I had damn well better toe the line. He expects and deserves my respect in return. Under that gentle exterior is an Alpha Male. But usually he's soft-spoken and masterful.

And he is an excellent and very avidly sought-after rheumatologist and I'm lucky to have him! I'm just fearful that he's going to work himself unto a heart-attack. Another "Type A" personality. LIKE ME, except presently I'm not in a position of social leadership and authority. YET.

And so, he said the trouble is that I have three legitimate medical reasons to take a moderate dose of Lyrica, and it would be extremely difficult, if not outright impossible, to find several substitutes that'd go together and do the job.

"So," says he, "you MUST learn to control that compulsion with Lyrica. The dose I'm prescribing, if followed closely, will resolve your medical issues without fostering a hard-core addiction."

In short, he knows I have a habit and craving for pregabalin specifically, but he expects me to master it. He's right: I must. I tell him how tough it is, and though he is generally a very empathic and sympathetic gent, he looks at me steely-eyed and says shortly,"I don't care. You're causing me no end of pain with your antics. If you don't get a grip on this, I'm going to have no choice but to cut you off! ARE WE CLEAR???" He rarely gets angry but I'd managed to make him absolutely furious. His hands were shaking. I felt awful; I kept apologizing and thinking he was going to have his heart-attack any moment.

Later, when he calmed down, I timidly joked, "Pregabalin-Gate!" He was still simmering but said with cool acknowledgement of my silly sense of humor, "Hmmmm." At that time I started being afraid that when he finally had his massive coronary, it'd be ALL MY FAULT. Me and LYRICA!!!!

As for the narcotic Hydrocodone, he tells me that some of his patients had become addicted to it from other doctors and he had to wean them off of it.

In my case, oddly enough, I'm not addicted to the narcotic, because of a limited tolerance inherited from both parents as a rare recessive gene; on his cancer deathbed, Dad ripped out his morphine pump; Mom on her own cancer deathbed refused morphine; they both hated it so much. Me, I can make some use of narcotics, but in a limited sense.

But for all I know, if my Doc wasn't so very careful with it, I might have been hooked on 'em by now anyhow. So I'm grateful to him for taking a firm stand on that AND with the Lyrica: he knows what he's doing. I just need to work WITH him. I have a therapist I see. She's in the loop too. It's an ongoing process.

I now have a pill container/organizer that will help me to plan out my Lyrica doses each day of each month so that I do not run smack into this horrific and painful situation ever again...of course, I'm almost out of the Hydrocodone, which usually I'd have doled out to myself a little bit at a time, as my rheumatologist prescribes it to be used a little bit at a time if my pain levels really spike. My Mom had RA so I wasn't all that surprised when it started in on my hands and knees. I can't even bend some of my fingers at all any more.

I'm violently allergic (anaphylactic) to NSAIDs, much to my frequent extreme frustration! So, I'll kind of miss the hydrocodone, but my Doc has to be strict about it, understandably; he will prescribe a little bit more of them next month and since I will not be running out of Lyrica again (NO WAY!!!) I won't need to use the narcotic as a substitute for it...I'll be able to just take the pills occasionally, when pain literally forms an obstacle to getting anything done! For now, I'm setting aside the few narcotic pills I have left. I have Lyrica again and my horrific ordeal is over for the nonce.

Unlike Lyrica, I am accustomed to going most of the month without Hydrocodone; technically, THAT drug is considered MORE addictive than even Lyrica, so my Doc wants to be absolutely certain he does not ever prescribe enough of it to foster any kind of a habit. The dose of Hydrocodone is way too low and the allotted supply way too small to support a habit. Better off that way, I say. The Lyrica situation's bad enough to deal with; I truly do NOT need THAT on top of it, or even BECAUSE of it!

So I comply. I mean, I comply with the narcotic rules he has; it makes sense; he's a doctor, not an enabler.

But, ohhhhh, boy, things are so different with the Lyrica: it took me months and months to finally accept that I had acquired a Lyrica HABIT. Admitting it was emotionally devastating. But it was necessary. NOR AM I ALONE.

NOTHING is a substitute for LYRICA (pregabalin); Lyrica WITHDRAWAL is literally and figuratively a HELL ON EARTH and I just went through it!!! NEVER AGAIN! I survived it (BARELY) but I cannot allow my addiction to Lyrica to drive me to use too much of it and wind up enduring eight-plus days of withdrawal again; NOOOO WAAAAY!!!!

So: Lyrica helps me, true; but LYRICA CAN BE A DEMANDING TASKMISTRESS; it has drawn me inexorably into its steely clutches as its helpless slave, a dark seduction worthy of Faustian figures in Gothic tales.

Lyrica like H??! Oh, yes, my friends. The Pfizer company has repeated the history made a century before by the Bayer corporation when they, too, introduced a drug to the public that bore a feminine heroic name which, like Lyrica, connotes both seduction and implied mercy: H.

YES, I AM COMPARING LYRICA TO H. My Gentleman friend used to be hooked on H (Horse), he mainlined it. I can't imagine using needles to IV; I take Lyrica orally. Anyway, he no longer is a slave of narcotics. He's fully clean and free of H now; I'm proud of him.

But when he saw me in the throes of pregabalin withdrawal, he said it was worse than H withdrawal, that it had some things in common with Delerium Tremens experienced by hard-core alcoholics during withdrawal, and that he can tell clearly that this mysterious young drug is indeed the H of our new age!

So: well, to synopsize: Bayer gave the world H just over 100 years ago and she changed the world forever; now, a century later, from the similar but updated mercy of Pfizer, we have another imperious goddess: the "gift" of Lyrica, the H of the 21st Century!

The drug YOU took is a very powerful one with addictive potential; there are new ones coming out all the time. Sounds like you started taking it during its trial phase if it only came out to the general public in 2011. A lot of docs will give out samples before a drug hits mainstream marketing.

Whatever the case, you need to seek emergency medical help and when people show you that inevitable prejudice, show them right back that it is unacceptable, and please, sir, remember that the rest of us deserve that same respect from you! Good Luck, again.

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