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lynn Says:
I found Subutex in my daughter's room with a needle. Do people really IV this? Why do people take it that dont need it?
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seriously I have been looking for the same answer, can u take subutex after 12 hrs and nit get sick. because I know when I took suboxane too early it made me soo sick& all I want is to kick.
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Pixie Kitten Says:
Hello. Subutex are a treatment drug for heroin/opiate addicts. I am currently on 8mg daily as I am in recovery. However, when I WAS a full blown user I did inject subutex once or twice. The reason at that time was because I simply couldn't get any heroin from the streets. Your daughter may not be using subutex for that reason though. I once bought myself some subutex to get myself off heroin so it could be a good sign that she's choosing this over drugs. Talk to your daughter and tell her that local drug help places will give her a prescription of subutex so that she can leave her addiction and the lifestyle it brings behind her and start recovery. Normally when a user gets subutex it's because they're keen to finally give up the addiction battle. Also, injecting effects you EXACTLY the same way and placing the tablet under your tongue (which is its intended use as subutex is a "sublingual" pill. Another thing for you and her to bare in mind is that when she is prescribed subutex most chemists have a policy in place which forces the patient to be observed taking the tablet to ensure they do not smuggle the pills out in order to sell/inject. Help your daughter, don't judge her.
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Phil Says:
Injecting that crap in your arm is a gamble. I've known two people now that have nearly lost their arms because of that. It's not intended for intravenous use. It dissolves under your tongue. There are certain compounds added to the pills to allow them to dissolve under your tongue. Those compounds are not intended to be jammed into your veins. It's stupid. It's common sense. Survival of the fittest. If you're too stupid to realize you shouldn't put that crap in your arm, then good riddance.
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Phil Says:
It's supply and demand. Maybe subs are few and far between where you live, but they're all over the place here. Literally. Everywhere. Not even the most hard-up junkie will pay 20 for a whole, let alone a half. Paying 15 for a whole sub here is considered a rip-off. I'm clean now, so I'm not sensationalizing it, but it's basic economics. Supply and demand...
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tim Says:
speak for urself
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samuel Says:
Why doesn't anyone mention the fact that buprenorphine is used all over Europe as a narcotic pain reliever for those in moderate/severe chronic pain? It is a great alternative to full opiate agonists like demerol or morphine; however, it is also the #1 abused rx drug in Scandanavia and Northern Europe. People can still inject buprenorphine, while Suboxone has naloxone in it to prevent intravenous abuse. Can anyone tell me why Subutex is so abused in Northern Europe? Please see what is posted in Wikipedia.
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GodSmack Says:
Wow, read some of the comments, not all, but what I saw was NOTHING that sounded like a success story...So I had to leave mine---SUBUTEX gave me back my life...Free of opiates 5 yrs now, I did use subutex for over two years, but was a small price to pay in my mind...and I tapered down my dosage, the last six months I took one a day, 1/2 in the morning 1/2 in the evening....I was actually able at times to go without subs for days at a time, but mentally still needed the crutch--and yeah, anyone letting go of them for ten bux, you're undervaluing the junkies around you--I have had junkies offer me 20 bux for a half! When you are dope sick and have no opiate option one subutex can make you well for at least a day....anyway I no longer take subutex, havent touched opiates in 5 yrs, and no subutex for about 2 yrs. It can be done. And I was a primo junkie opiate whore, I think a really big part of cutting yourself free is you have WANT IT BAD....I kicked opie, but cant kick cigs. That's all I have left, cigs...so everyone who gives me s*** abt cigs, I ask "perhaps you'd prefer I shoot smack? Oh, I know, a 6 pack of beer would be fine with you, but no weed, no cigs." F***ing douchebag hypocrites....step away from the twinkies too.
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Phil Says:
And injecting those things will eventually lead to an abscess in her arm. Those pills are not meant to be taken intravenously. She could possibly lose her arm and even her life by injecting them
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Phil Says:
And those go for $10 around here. $15 at the most. But again, you're just getting yourself into a different addiction. There is absolutely no future in it. Getting off all of it is the only way out. Trust me. Subs will hold you hostage just the same as the opiates.
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Phil Says:
And I just wanna say that I'm 30 years old and I have successfully quit all this dirty, evil crap. I was doing oxycontin, roxicet, and heroin. I thought that by getting myself on suboxone or subutex I could kick the habit. WRONG! Getting on suboxone and/or subutex is just starting yourself on an entirely new addiction. The only way out is to just quit. Or maybe go to a rehab program. You're not doing yourself any favors by using the subs. It's just a legal, doctor-endorsed addiction. Change your lifestyle. That's your only hope.
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anonymousss Says:
haha, you guys are all (minus a few) funny.. & by funny i mean incorrect. lol. anyway, suboxone, MUST wait for withdrawal to kick in before use... or it'll send ya into immediate withdrawal. subuTEX however, is different, whoever wrote that they used it as a clutch for opiates, i feel you 100%... i'm gonna be honest, i'm 22 & i've been doing these for the past 3 years, & like the 21 year old girl said, even tho it doesn't seem like a long time, 365 days times 3 is a long time! i'm trying to kick my habit, i took my first thing of subutex just now, but have had many positive & 1 negative experience with suboxone.. the only negative experience was because i took it too soon after my last fix, so automatic withdrawal, but goes away soon after. oh i also wanted to state that the subutex will go for $10-$70... just so everyone knows... & to that guy that said $15 was the highest, i'll buy em all from ya for 15 lol & addicts around here will pay minimum $50, just sayin!
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Mommyof2 Says:
Thank you so much to everyone for your helpful insight into how to kick the opiate habit. I was prescribed Subutex today and feel a bit lousy on half a pill. I think I took it too close to my last opiate dose, Lorcet 10-650. Opiate withdrawal is an evil beast. My story is text book, beginning treatment for legitimate pain and four years later, I am facing addiction because my body will not let go. I am happily married with two wonderful little girls...and a two time Teacher of the Year. I am ashamed and embarrassed. I was so naive to think "I could handle it" and quit when I wanted to. The withdrawals from trying "cold turkey" were horrific. I am encouraged by those of you who have beat your addiction. Thank you...here I go. I have much to look forward to and cannot let a pill define my life.
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Mark Says:
Ive been using since 13 im currently 18 kicking my 2nd addiction just ran out of suboxone and my friend gave me a werid looking subutex (not b8) so i ended up here. Sorry to hear about your daughter, inpatient worked for me well when i was going through the i hate my parents phase..changed me a whole lot for the better.
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samuel Says:
I am on a pain management program and I've gone from Suboxone to pure buprenorphine (Subutex) along with Butrans, the patch version of buprenorphine which I take on trips to third world countries so I won't be hampered at customs with all the narcotic pills of buprenorphine which are all over the market in other countries. It really controls my chronic migraines which were brought about by ECT which followed herpes simplex encephalitis. Thank God for buuprenorphine, it doesn't dope me up nearly as much as Oxycontins and morphine supplements. Enjoy your youth and stay away from harmful drugs. Life is tough for a middle-aged person like me on opiates the rest of my life. I wake up at all hours with dry mouth and narcotic nightmares. The constipation is horrid and I have to take more pills and liquids/powders for that too. Opiate living is horrible. I can't work anymore and my friends are few. Please don't do this. I hate beigh all "narced-up" all the time. God bless you all.
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anonymous user Says:
thank u very much jackie..to inform you im only a 21 year old girl and the only way u learn it, is by living it. cant stand when people who have never tried an opiate or any meds like suboxone/tex and think they know more then those who have been through it. i like to inform people with FACTS..only facts, because thats what will help them get better..not what the tv says or magazines, or sometimes even doctors. if you wanted to find the best banana's ud ask a monkey right? so when it comes to this, ask a drug-user/addict/recoverer. we will help you. i am a month clean today and so proud of it i hope my info helps u and i will talk to anyone to try to some how affect your life in a good way :) god bless.
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Brent Says:
This is very incorrect. both suboxone AND subutex WILL both send you into precipitated withdrawal if taken too soon after taking a full agonist (heroin, oxycodone, methadone etc.) The buprenorphine or active ingredient in both suboxone and subutex is what causes precipitated withdrawal because of it's much higher affinity yet much lower activity at the opioid receptors. The naloxone has NOTHING to do with it! This is a common misconception. The addition of naloxone to suboxone is only to prevent people from injecting it (which is ineffective IMO). If you are prone to precipitated withdrawals, then whether you take subutex or suboxone is irrelevant, both will cause precipitated withdrawal if taken too soon after a full agonist, PERIOD.
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Kaylee Says:
After taking opiates for 2weeks can make u feel "sick" or detox. Actually after 3-4 days of taking an opiate ur body can get addicted to it. Ur body gets used to taking the opiate and then once u stop-especially cold turkey u deffinately will feel the affects of not having them. So yes after 2 weeks, I totally understand why the doc prescribed suboxone
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No Says:
Here's my question: Why would a doctor prescribe you Subutex/Suboxone when you've only been on opiates for 2 weeks? Two weeks is nothing. I would question your doctor's motives. He belongs in prison.
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No Says:
Wow! $35 a piece? I need to come over there and start selling. Over here they're $15 at the most!
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Jackie Says:
WOW.....Thank you to this person.....
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I can't get over how acccurate you are AND how sincere you are. I must add that you are an educated person too =]
I wish you ALL the best in your life. I hope to God that you get better some day....it can happen, just so you know. I did it=]]
God Bless
Jackie
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