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lynn Says:
 
I found suboxone in my daughters room with a needle. Do people really shoot this up? why do people take it that dont need it?

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Rx Says:
 
Problem being that she isn't going to stop until she's ready to stop. There's nothing that anyone can do to make her ready until she's ready.

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swim Says:
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No you should be fine taking suboxoneits the same drug just one has naloxone in it an that wwon't makeyou detox

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nerrdy Says:
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No SUBUTEX IS JUST BUP SUBOXONE IS BUP WITH NALOXONE. NALOXONE MAKES YOU SICK IF YOU TAKE TO SOON AFTER AN ACTUAL OPIOD USE I.e. heroin, Oxycontin, morphine etc. SUBOXONE WILL NOT CAUSE WITHDRAW anytime after SUBUTEX USE.

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Brenden WSID Says:
 
I'm not going to tell you how to handle your daughters problem, you are her parent it is your job to help her and up to you to make the decision of which rout to take. Some bits of helpful advice. 1.)There are some good suggestions posted here by other people but unfortunately the HARD TRUTHis there is no £answer to your girls problem, at least no ONE SINGLE answer, people say to get her to the clinic and started on methadone andncounsking but to make sure she takes a low dose. Keeping the dose low is good advise but taking that rout is just as addictive with even worse withdrawals than oxy,heroine,subutex or suboxone,. Clinics are a legal way to keep people dosed up and high legally, while it can work it often does not because clinics notoriously over dose the patient. You can not go into a clinic and say you only want a 30mg dose it does not work like that. There is no easy way for her to quit without going through some seriously painful withdrawals, any option that enables the subject to stop the abusive drug the are taking without going through withdrawals Is in itself ADDICCTICTING.. IT IS A HARD TRUT TO ACCEPT BUT IT IS THE TRUTH....IT HAS FRUSTRATED ME FOR YEARS THAT WITH ALL THE WORLDSNTECHNOLOGY THERENIS NONEASY WAY TO CURE OPIATEVADDICT TION...... The best way osntonlook at every option....the pros and con's.....and to decide what is best..... use your knowledge of the kind of girl your daughter is to decide what rout to take. Do not include the subject in this process because she will do her best to convince you that the way she wants to do it is the best, that's bad because she's going to pick the easy way and try to getnypou to agree and OK it..I.E.. methadone clinic, seeing a doctor andgetting a a script. Of. Subutex. Or a script of suboxone.... Look into state detoxes, there five to seven days and they administer sub's resposbily and wean the patient down within three or four days instead of dragging it out....which does not work. The problem with that is when she gets out she will be completely sober....she won't be withdrawing but the itch to get high will still be there...rehabs...30 60 90 120 possibly could work but the majority have a low success rate....because as soon as the come home....guess what...?they go from a completely controlled environment to freedoms...they behave for the first week or two and then you start to trust her again and give her freedom and she realizes you trust her and in turn begins to think she can get away with it AND SHE BEGINES TO USE AGAIN. ONE THING ALL ADDICTAS SHARE IS THE UNCANY ABILITY TO TRICK THEMSELVES INTO THINKING THE NEXT TIME WILL BE DIFFERENT ANDNTHEY WILL CONTROLL IT THIS TIME.....A.A. IS AN OPTION BUT ALSO A LIFESTYLE, not that anything is wrong with that..... LASTLY AND BY FAR THE BEST OPTION IN MY OPION IS NALAXONE SHOTS...its only a blocker....its admistered and lasts for thirty days....this is fantastic because you continue to get it every month for 6 to a year or a year in a half....no side affect no addiction no bulls*** no nothing except a blocker that can't be gotten rid of.... This was you don't have to truest her BC it doesn't matter...she will try to get high and relazize she can't and tjhen the decion to not use isn't even in her control any more BC she can't even if she wants to BC oxy heroine sub's, snornting sniffing shooting will have no affect on her and usually after 7 or 8 months the subject without even trying stops thinking the way they did and without wanting to or trying to the subject changes into a normal person who dosent think about drugs ,let alone having to consiosly and constantly think about how they need to make the right decios to not use drugs that day....any ways let me know idpf u need any help going over options or weighing pros and con's best of luck god bless. TO ANY ONE ELSE OUT THERE IF YOUR THINKING What should you do??? ASK ME

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Nick Says:
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break it up in pieces like u would cut a strip and use as needed. put under tounge and let dissolve.

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Bash Says:
 
thank you very much for your comment, i just got this subutex pill round white 54 411 cuz iam done with this bulls*** of a drug that mkes u feel horrible after using for months. thank god i did shoot up, i was a smoker i used to smoke a gram at day sometimes more now it going .2 or less a day then i wont use for 2 to 3 days then i get sick. thts whats makes me use again because i dont have suboxen or subtuex. but now i just got a sobutex pill. iv have suboxen before and an 8 mg one last me like 5 days sometimes more. ut it was a film this is a pill if u could please help me out on what do since i can tell by ur comment that ur experienced with these things like opiate withdrawal id appreciate that.

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Rx Says:
 
This is horrible advice. First of all one never boils subutex. Secondly moving from subutex to methadone is just- There's no reason anyone would do that. It's like getting on methadone because you have a problem with vicodin. You're trading something less addictive opiod for an incredibly addictive opiod. Methadone is also much harsher on your body. The danger with IV subutex is that it is NOT heated and so if she is using dirty equipment, she could put herself at risk for septicemia or even endocarditis. If she is already injecting the subutex, the risk for overdose is low since each dose is consistently the same. I have been an opiod addict (fentanyl, heroin, hydromorphone, oxymorphone) for many years and I used all of it IV. I've also been clean on methadone program for the last two. I know what I am talking about.

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Thomas21 Says:
 
Yes YesYes!!!! I am 42 and have had a (H) problem for 25 years on and off. Methadone is worse than heroin. The withdrawls alone last 30 days and can KILL you. I have been on Suboxone for 3 years and now on subutex. It is a great medicine and is difficult to abuse because effect tapers off at a certain point so people quickly realize that it is a waste to take more than prescribed. Of course people who don't have a opiate addiction will get high on it and can OD, it is a narcotic medication but I believe that it is the best out there. Tramadol can be used to wean off of narcotics in high doses like 300-500 mg a day but I am not a doctor so don't take my word for it. I am just saying what my experience was with all these drugs. Good luck and if you are gonna be stupid enough to do opiates make sure you are NOT ALONE. So someone can call 911 when you "go out"

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Jen Says:
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I was on suboxone for 2 years but there were people at the clinic where I went that will probably never come off. The doctor left it up to Each person on when they wanted off. And everyone's body handles getting off of it differently. It took about 8 months till I felt normal again. Good luck.

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damnedifudo Says:
 
Will Doctors keep you on subutex indefinitely or is their a timeframe in which you need to be weaned off. I had 18 months on suboxone and stayed free of any other drugs during that time period. Once I was weaned off, the nightmare began. Never had cravings this bad, insomnia, jumping out of my skin, ect....... that said the 18 months I had on suboxone was great. Felt a sense of normalcy, went back to school and had a 4.0 which I never was even close to during high school. Anyways will any Doctors let you stay on either of these indefinitely.?

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JayJay Says:
 
This is very true. Taking suboxone close to after using opioids will put your body into instant withdrawals. It contains Nalaxone which is the ingredient to which shocks your body and puts it into DT's. Taking subutext after using opioids on the other hand will not, due to the fact it does NOT contain the "blocker" known as Nalaxone. You can go about your day normally- not feeling horrible due to an opiate hang-over. My advise is not to take any suboxone OR methadone. Deal with your withdrawals and get over it naturally, and stay clean and live a slave-free life! It will steal your life! If you choose to use, please be careful.

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drew Says:
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Yes people do shoot this up. suboxone can kill u. it has narcane in it and can send you're body into immediately having witdraws. please be careful. i know several people whom died due to this

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dru B Says:
 
hey smarty pants. The naloxone in suboxone doesnt do anything when the pill is taken sublingually. it is like insulin. it needs to be injected, and then it will cause a withdrawal.

subutex is just pure buprenorphine without the 25% ratio of naloxone.

it DOES give you a rush if you shoot it. I know. Me and many people I know do it this way because of this. There is just no high afterwards. I prefer this method (while adhering to my daily prescribed dose) as I get all the benefits of suboxone (not getting sick and not craving harder opiates and not wasting money on them because I know they will be blocked by the buprenorphine sitting on my opiate receptors) and I also get a nice rush once a day.

True knowledge comes from information AND experience bobolón!

dimorphine (heroin) gives you a rush because you shoot it just like morphine. It is just stronger in the euphoric sense. both will give you a rush and then a high when taken intraveinously and both will just give you a high if taken orally

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kristi Says:
 
is there any real way to get help paying for subutex


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Nick Says:
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not a 5 panel

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nick Says:
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I have been an opiate user ever since i had surgery on my back starting with vicodin a few years ago and slowly went threw all the main meds until my doctor reached oxcy 30s the blue ones. I lost my insurance and couldn't afford my meds any more so started withdrawing and found what i was told are bueps. started snorting a quarter a pill a day to feel good and now important up to a whole pill or two a day. i want to just be done with this s*** but can't stand getting sick. my question is this, will the pill show up on a standard ua test for employment or do they have to specifically have to test for it?

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Heather Says:
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Here is the deal, I am 27 years old, i started using pills and heroine when i was 16, i have been sober for the last 23 months. No pills no suboxone, no subutex. I know by my medical profession, and also my education from the school of hard knocks, everyone is different. From personal experience, i have watched people shoot up suboxone when they had never touched an opiate. Circumstances play into everyones choices and addiction. But people should be a little nicer, addiction is hell, i lived it for so long, i am suprised i made it out alive, but here i am, and all i want to do is help. If i were to find a needle and pill in a childs room i would seek out an inpatient rehab. I did a 90 day program and had to relearn how to do day to day things. I have been an active member in Na an my life is good. I am happy, and i view each day as an adventure.

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Nick Says:
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Water and cigarette cotton ' new rig.

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Steven Says:
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Methadone is the hardest to get off suboxen and subutex is the best to keep from doing other drugs and people that shoot it uslol do it to do alot less and to make one last alot longer. When i do dope i have to do a half gram a day i can shoot a little suboxen and make one 8mg last a week doing a little pice by pice when on suboxen i am more focused on work and important stuff while dope i dont care bout much yea u withdrawal hard when switing to sub but its a little down side to getting well. Dont go for methadone cuz if u stop going its worse getting off i was on 80mg it took a week and two suboxen a day just to get normal then had to ween down from the subs worse week!

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Olive Oil Says:
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Can you IV 54 411 8 mg white subutex pill? If so, how do u do it safely??

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