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White Round Pill Subutex 54 411 (Page 2)
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lynn Says:
I found Subutex in my daughter's room with a needle. Do people really IV this? Why do people take it that dont need it?
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you will be fine ...esp since you r sniffing instead of shooting , sniffing you get about 50-70% where as shooting you get almost the whole deal
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thejoesterpro Says:
Subutex will throw u into withdrawals if u take it to early if u do a lil research online u would have found a site describing the fact that buprenorphine take the checkered flag when it comes to binding to ur opiate receptors so with that fact if u take subutex the bup. will knock any other opiates out of the receptor site and replace it with itself and being that bup.(subutex) is a less stronger opiate it will throw u into withdrawals so make sure u take it once withdrawals start to avoid that and it will get u well in no time...
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thejoesterpro Says:
To be a lil bit more clear on the subject u won't go into full withdrawal from taking subutex because ur only replacing one opiate with another but it will take u down for sure if ur on a heroin high and ur up there pretty high.. subutex will knock u back down quite a ways
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steve Says:
I agree. If these people would actually read the info giving on all these posts and yours they all wouldn't have to ask the same questions over and over again. If they need help they should read the posts. I used to be on heroin, like $300 a day habit. Before that oxycontin 80mg. About 10 a day. When I went to detox they gave me subutex. I waited about 24hrs and yeah I got sick but about 15-20 min after I took a half one under my tongue, I satarted feeling better and better. I took a half a subutex 4 times the first day, so 2 pills, and the next day I went down to 1 pill, half in the morning and half at night before bed. Then a half one the third day around noon and that was it. Now they will give you another half on the fourth day. I never felt better. Until I got home and all the meds I was taking wore off. But after a few weeks I was perfectly normal again. When I was doing heroin I waited almost two days before taking a suboxone. It made me even sicker.so its different for each person. I was always so scared to take suboxone because of that one experience I didn't take it til recently. I was taking Dr prescribed oxycodone 30mg. But when I stopped taking them I got sick. My friend had a prescription for suboxone strips. I was scared to take it, but I took my last pill the night before and when I woke up I felt sick so I took 1/4 of a strip, didn't really feel anything so I took another 1/4 so half total and in no time I felt so much better. So my recommendation to people who really want to stop using, try and cut your dosages back as much as you can, then if you can get subutex that would be my first choice, take a half of one under your tongue. Let it dissolve, my second choice would be the suboxone strips. I would not recommend suboxone orange pill. As soon as I felt sick I took a 1/4 strip and was fine. Either on subutex or the suboxone strip, wait as long as you can and then take what I wrote. 1/2 subutex 4 times the first day, 1/2 pill twice on second day, and 1/2 pill on the third and/or fourth day. You will not be 100% when you stop taking the subs, but you will be over the worst and be able to get through the rest. Suboxone you can start with half strip and follow the same directions as subutex, or start with a 1/4 of a strip first and if you still feel sick then take another 1/4. Stick to a strict plan for about 4 or five days and I know that if I can do it after using so much then you can. Feel free to email with any questions. don't feel discouraged or ashamed. Be proud that you want to take the neccessary steps to get clean. I'm not a role model but have been thru alot and if I can help people then I will try to help.
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oded Says:
Evrything is very individual!
i use 16mg evry day for 6 years now and my life has turned living and enjoying!
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in these 6 years iv rehab my releationship with my wife, we got 2 kids that were born in theses 6 years, im working, im studiying, life is hard and somtimes a b1tch, BUT THEY ARE ALWAYS LIFE, GOOD LIFE!
(all thanks to me and subutex)
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wife of a 27yr addict and many prison time from it Says:
If you found a needle in your daughters room and a pill, white, with 54 411 on it, its DEFINANTELY a Subutex, not a Suboxone. Suboxones are octagon like shaped and orange. People buy Subutex on the streets for 35.00 a piece, they want them over Suboxone because Subitex DOSENT have a blocker and not only can u take other pain pills wth subutex and get the "high", u can shoot Subutex up and she will be full of ENERGY, possibly all day into the night DEPENDING on how muxh she shoots. Look for a spoon and a cut off filter from the end of a cigarette, that's what they draw the medicine up thru to filter out the bad. If she were to draw ONE STRAND OF COTTON FROM THAT FILTER INTO THE NEEDLE AND MEDICINE AND INJECT IT INTO HER VEIN, SHE WILL GET COTTON FEVER AND BECOME HOSPITAL SICK, CLD POSSIBLY DIE. I WOULD DEF STOP THIS QUICK, THESE R ADDICTIVE AND EXPENSIVE AND SHE'S YOUNG MOM, GET HER HELP SO NOTHING BAD HAPPENS TO HER. PRAYERS
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tink Says:
WHITE ROUND PILL WITH 54 411 ON ONE SIDE, THE OTHER SIDE IS PLAIN, NO SPLIT NOTHING ON BACK.....PEOPLE TAKE THEM FOR A MASSIVE ENERGY RUSH AND THEIR VERY AVAILABLE AND VERY ADDICTIVE. FIND HER HELP
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Paul Says:
Ok. If your gonna tell someones family what their child is doing make sure you have your facts right. Subutex sells for 10 each. Maybe your husband tells you 35 cause hes buying 3 not 1. And you dont get hospital sick from cotton fever and you cant die from it. It lasts 30 to 60 min. You get cold and shake a little bit. Not tryin to be rude but being an addict myself and knowing first hand, I know it sucks when family is misinformed. It sux their daughter is an addict but it wud be a little extreme for them to have to lock up the Qtips cause they think child is gonna die from cotton fever
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Paul Says:
To add to my reply you dont get cotton fever from injecting a peice of cotton. You get it from a bacteria build up in the cotton. Its almost impossible to draw up a peice of cotton and by chance it happens it clogs the needle and makes it impossible to use. The chances of actually injecting yourself with cotton are ZERO
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Paul Says:
Good info steve. Drives me crazy when non addicts post s*** they know nothing about. they get their info from loved ones or whoever it may be that is an addict in their life. What ppl should keep in mind is that when I myself am in active addiction, pretty much everything that comes out of my mouth is bulls***. So please ladies and gents, ifyour going to post something you know nothinh about or have no experience with, research it
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Paul Says:
Yes u can shoot it. It gives u an all day energy boost. But its HIGHLY ADDICTAVE. She will get a habit if she doesnt have one already. Then she'll be dependant on it.
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Shannon Says:
Wish i read your post before quitting. Been doin percs for 11 years. Was doin 6 to 8the 30's aday. What started for severe back neck problem. I tried to quit to quick. Starting at a quarter sub for two days before bed to calm my legs. Then to an eighth. Way to quick. On day 12 tried to go without. Did alot of situps and push ups to release endorphans to be able to sleep. Got more subs and will have to try another week.
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Truth 4 U Says:
Scott B. This is a site for posting drug use! Being grammatically correct and perfectly affluent in typing or spelling bears ZERO regard. She got her point across so why be a dick?.... maybe you need some drugs, because the portrayal of your overall complete knowledge and perfect grammar and linguistics only make you out to be a prick. If you have nothing nice to say, then don't say it at all. There is a penny for your thoughts, I wouldn't give you even that ........
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tgirl Says:
because if you are not a opiate junkie..;.they will make you high....
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Ryan pm Says:
Hello I have a question I was on opiates for about two weeks ans have now taken subutex for 8you days I am weaning myself down to 2mg twice a day for one more day than 2mgI once a day for 2 or 3you days will I have withdrawals off of the subutex I have herd horrible stories from withdrawaling from these please help very scared
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Ryan pm Says:
Can you help me with a question please I relapsed and got back on opiates I was on the for about 2it weeks I haven now been on subutex 8 days im weaning myself down tomorrow will be 2mg3 twice than the next day 2mgI once and try to go longer without taking my last 2mg will I withdrawal off of the subutex
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Shannon Says:
If you were on opiates for only a few weeks i dont see any reason to be on subz. Yes they are more addictive and have worse withdrawls but they are 6x cheaper. I take 2 mgs to sleep. I was taking 30 mgs x 6 for 11a years. $180 aday to $5 aday.
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Ryan pm Says:
I got some on the street to keep me out pf dt from opiates my rabbit picked back up where I left off so I hoped on them for now 8in days and wanna stop just don't know if I should expect withdrawal from the subs
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Shannon Says:
You should be able to get by 1mg 3 hours before bed.
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Ryan pm Says:
How long before I can stop that I just don't want to kick from subs wanna get back in my meeting sober and on track made it 6I months than this happend
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