Which Is Stronger 15mg Ms Contin Or 15mg Oxycodone (Page 5)

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I wonder what the difference is between 15MG MS Contin vs 15 Mg Oxycodone. Is there a substitute for MS Morphine..I take 2 30mg MS Contin twice a day and also with that I take 15MG MS Contin twice per day..which of course is 45mgs at a time..with 3 15mg Oxcodone for breakthru pain. I was taking 20 mg Oxycontin 3 times a day etc. But my insurance wasn't paying for the oxy. So what I take now is paid for. Do any of you have any suggestions of what would work better for the pain..since I changed to morphine it doesn't seem to do the trick..this is long..but any answers would be very appriciated..Thanks..

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It depends. General diagnostics will see ms contin and oxycodone/Percocet as the same drug since they are both derived from morphine. But there are some drug panels (usually employee drug panels) that can identify the presence of morphine, Percocet (oxycodone), vicodin, etc separately. I'm a nurse and my info is very legit. Fyi- percocet is the same thing as oxycodone except it had Tylenol in it. Oxycontin is a fast release morphine versus ms contin is extended release morphine.

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Yes, it would help you a lot. Tramadol is just a fancy ibuprofen. Hydrocodone is a narcotic but Percocet is stronger and ms contin will last you longer and should cover your pAin better. By the way, in regards to your liver, you can have up to 3000mg of Tylenol a day, it doesn't matter how much Tylenol you take at the same time as long as you don't exceed the 3000mg/day.

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Nicely put. I'm a nurse and take care of people who are truely in pAin everyday of their lives but it can be frustrating to give pAin pills to the "clock watchers" and always say the have 8/10 pain while they are smiling and laughing.

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Your brain actually creates more pain receptors, that is in fact how your body builds up a tolerance to opiates. So in reality over time if heavy use your brain has to continue to have that large amount of opiates to fill those extra receptors, therefore goes the eternal circle....

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I live in Calif and I can't find any pharmacy that has ms contain so my doc. Changed me to oxyccontain but I'm still on 75 mg of fentayal plus 3 60 ms contain plus 30 mg of morphine I'm in rehab for a new shoulder and. Quit the fentayal patch ddid I make a mistake of getting rid of the patch. ? I hurt a lot but my head is clear and my speech is better should I stay on the patch and quit everything else?

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Have you considered switching from morphine to methadone. I am prescribed 5- 10 mg methadone and 3- 15 mg oxycodone a day. I can get through most days only taking two methadone instead of five. it may not work for everybody but it's worth a try. e

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is ms contin 100mg stonger than palexia sr 250

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I take oxycodone30mg five times a day and perc10s in between my doctor wants to switch me to the ms oxymorfine image all ready comfortable. With what I'm taking. Cause as soon as that ware off I hurt so should I switched or stay where I'm at

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Clock watcher are in pain. Learn something about chronic pain, they have learned to deal with it. They are not going to be in acute distress. And maybe laughing and visitors are a good distractions. Maybe an 8 is the best they will ever get at, and they watch the clock because they are trying to stay on top of it before it becomes a 10.

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Not sure if this help but I take 10mg OxyContin twice daily and was taking endone but my pharmacy ran out of it and gave me oxy norm telling me they were the same except capsules instead of tablets and its work outstandingly on me chronic pain. I only take one now fourth hourly if needed plus I started nuraphen again as I had my nerves burnt and its unsettled but yeah try Oxynorm

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Brain tumor 88 & Cervical spinalcord neck surgery 97, damage c-5.6.7 nerves. Was like gasoline was on me burning, was not relieved with meds completely. I development drop foot 1st. & forced to use cane. Worked awhile astrophy of muscles & balance too became a huge problem. & had use loft strand canes. With 5 kids @ time. Really fought to be mobile.Then lost balance more & legs stretching out & shaking because were so much spaticity. Began falling down became daily then over & over. Broke both shoulder rotor cuffs, now forced to use wheelchair. Long long long story shortened. Had many many diff meds Which none completely relieved pain. So for SOME of you here. IF your in such pain as you say. You'd be happy with some relief to let it be more tolerable. But MANY of you are just pumping us suffering from pain, for info about the best kinda drugs, for u to take or sell. Which makes it more & more difficult for people who really need it. Because doctors r becoming more & more strict on prescribing pain meds. Today I'm quadriplegic with pain pump & list mile long of health trouble. With pain level always high & am glad to get it to about a 6 or 7. So for all of you suffering from SCI, Cancer, diseases & list goes on & on. GOD BLESS YOU & never give up & for the junkies, it WILL catch up on you. & if you ever do got to REALLY need chronic pain meds the chance they will work for you. WONT. Sincerely

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I am an addict who has been in recovery for 14 Years and over the course of those years I have informed my pcp and any other medical professional of my prior addiction including the fact that I have been clean for 14 years and would like their help with my medical needs without narcotics if at all possible. But even real addicts have real pain. I'm not saying the others are not drug seeking but not all of us are as addicts. In the last four and a half months I have been in REAL pain brought on by spinal stenosis and two discs are completely disintegrated and I have a herniated disc pressing the sciatic nerve in between two bones that are trying to fuse themselves together. That creates a lot of pain and I am working with my PCP, a neurosurgeon and pain clinic professional to control my pain even with narcotics under supervision. We have used some non narcotic solutions some work some don't. Even though I have to take narcotics to control my pain I take only what I am prescribed when I am prescribed. I only take as many as the prescription allows. So not all junkies are drug seeking a lot of us are in real pain looking for a solution without getting hooked again

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Sorry, but as my doctor says, you cannot by fed. Law be taking two Instant Relief pain medications. This is why you read so many say I take MS Contin ( extended release Morphine ) w/ like a percoset, a hydrocodone based mixture that is IR, like not I, vicodin, etc.. Just thought I would being that to the table, I hope it helps, me I just take 6* 15mg oxycodone IR. I should be taking the doctors advice & take the MS Contin twice daily and only take an Oxycodone 15mg. Instant Release a fewtimesdaily as needed for breakthrough pain, I can say beyond a doubt, one would get better overall pain relief, no need to take Advil, or alve for extra OTC help. I don't wish to become addicted to Morphine as well & god knows it's hard enough just trying to secure my current 6* daily of oxycodone Instant Release 15mg. I have had the morphine & trust me for long term relief & more if a complete overall, longer lasting & less expensive, & also only taking two daily being that's 24 hours round the clock pain relief, each month I say no I cannot accept the help which I know also each month their will be days I said screw it & if the side effects ( being another addictive medication ) I often wish I would at least accepted the RX & not being in pain that is not covered by the 6* oxycodone even though it's 6* daily, in time they just stop being as effective & this is 99% why people end up on both an instant release & a extended release, but one doctor cannot write an RX for two medications that areInstant Release & also by the way, nothing taking orally is instant releae maybe 15-20 minutes you may begin to get a Lil relief but I just keep on where I'm at & tell myself, I DONT NEED YET ANOTHER PILL THAT MY BODY WILL EVENTUALLY BE BACK TO WHERE IM AT NOW & then all mg.'s.. Would slowly go up & up, I'm not an addict as the science evens looks at it, but I'm am dependent on the Lil relief I get taking just an IR.. Well, I hope this helped you & others as well, if anyone has a doctor that does prescribe both two types of IR, be careful because he or she is breaking the law & at anytime you could loose this doctor due to his or her utilizing the proper & legal ways of treating chronic pain. Best of luck, it's TRULLY ashamed we cannot just legally grow our own poppies for pain relief, but that would be illegal as well huh, how we are so controlled in today's modern society, & only Uncle Sam, can legally import poppies & or the straw from which they make these medications even the semi synthetic ones which would also be oxycodone, it's made w/ the opium poppy plants alkaloid Thebaine & it is looked at as being a true opiate, which is not the case, morphine is the main & most active alk. In this plant but technology is so down pat that they have genetically altered a poppy to either grow one or the other poppy plants w/ either larger levels of Thebaine or large amounts of Morphine, the badinage given to opiates is that of abuse & bulls*** to the people's, they want to control our every move, thought, & if your one not to than off to the slammer for you, s*** Thomas Jefferson use to grow both medicinal hemp & opium poppies right their in his home in Monticello ( northern Virginia mountains ) but the DEA even raided it a few years back for just as they always have done is plant a more visual poppy garden w/ poppies most used for the appearances & to recreate what it was like when he was in his home, because as skid & taking field trips to Monticello, there was always the poppies planted each year to show & cold illy beautify the land around the house & long winding porch & views of their garden. We cannot let our nation be owned by major corporations & drug company ( legal ones of course ) be ran by thugs in suits & ties & their Lil doughnut Lil blue dressed friends or should I say sheep, that march, & destroy by the command of whats now, the modern world, we treat our animals w/ better love & sympathy for pain than our own loved ones, the humans that found this most miraculous of plants, their is a book about it having been what is today posed as Aspirin but in the early two & a half decades of the 1900's we were allowed to grow our own medicine for pain but if you can control & tax & profit from something nearly everyone suffers from every now & then & that's pain, you control it & it's cures, well you control a entire world & nation. Good luck to everyone that TRULLY suffers from chronic pain & to all you phonies out there abusing these miracle drugs that help us in chronic pain to be able to even get up & around & live a more productive & free life, I REALLY WANT TO STRESS MY GRATITUDE TO THE FEW DOCTORS OUT THEFE THAT ARE NOT SCATED OF BIG BROTHER & his threats to all in the medical profession, they gotta sell all the opiates being secretly flown into our country & thus why so many turn to it, because their doctors won't prescribe a legitimate form of pain relief & here in America ( I promise I would & have never tried or even seen it ) but it's just a tweaked out version of morphine having been put on steroids to say the least, we must & I stress this understand that opiates once in nearly every household in the early 1900's like aspirin is to our medicine cabinets of today. I have lived all over the US & the good poppies do & still grow in the wild, & trust me if we were able to grow our on foods & medical herbs & other healing herbs, corporate America & the foundation which supports it would crumble & the profit loss from arrests made, or finding a good doctor w/ whom you can talk to to get a piece of paper that if your on a tight budget your not going to be able to afford it & honestly as sad as it is, THE CRUEL WORLD DOES NOT CARE!!!! Be Good & God Bless America, I hope that all these laws will soon & one day be looked at as barbaric & stupid as they are, doctors take a hypothetic Oath & the first few words state that no patient should have to suffer in or from pain in a world of the science we have & opiates available to treat pain, trust me this is very very big business & it's only getting worse as each day out rights are being taken from us directly from under our feet, AMERICA WAKE UP!!!

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Insurance won't pay for 2 Ms cotton 100 mg per day what can I have the Dr perscibe me that will be close to that I need help just to get by each day

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Sadly it is very true that the cold and wet winters are really tough for us chronic pain folks. I moved to Oregon couple years ago and man did I find out. I am now about to undergo a procedure to implant two TENS wires and a transmitter in my spine.
A new version of an old system. Pain Doc is quite confident it will reduce pain and meds by a substantial number. I hope so. As with most of us, the pain has gotten consistently worse since my first post here about 5 years ago. All the result of a fusion of L5-S1 that only made things get much much worse. Am currently on 20mg OxyContin every 8, with 5 mg Oxycodone in between as needed..( always needed)

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Oxycontin is a time released oxycodone ms contin is time released morphine

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Well, better open a pharmacology book if you're a nurse! I'm a nurse and oxycontin is NOT short action morphine, or morphine at all! It's long acting oxycodone (Percocet without Tylenol) fyi, most of all the long acting opiates now have abuse deterrent fillers, epoxy, plastic, etc that do not work as the old ones did, and cause many sensitivities! For long acting, go w the fentanyl patches. Soon, thanks to our government involvement all pain meds will be useless! Many are made in India, China, etc without proper regulations and that's what our people get! Research it, and join the rally to congress petitions some of us have started! It's not only pain meds either, some of these factories don't even have hand washing facilities! Our FDA needs to hear from chronic pain patients and get out of our doctors business! The number of suicides due to this have increased, especially the elderly! This is the most un american sick mess I've seen in 27yrs of nursing! Pain is real, addiction and dependency are different! This stereotypical attitude is the same as our mental health system, BROKEN!

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I'm sorry to say...there are very few good pain docs out there...I had one accuse me of taking suboxone with oxy 30s...I drove home and for all the suboxone I did not take and he still was very rude to me...said it was not logical...not everything needs to be logical...the docs are getting really nervous to give these meds with the FDA crackdown...I know 7 that were just arrested for selling scripts...over a million in a year...so you can talk as honestly as you want...docs will just say its not good to take that much medication...I hope you can find a good one...I was in a terrible car accident and its a chore for me to walk, stand, sit, lay, etc...and this doc I see does not get my pain at all...I have been totally honest with him...

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Take a higher dose. Say ms contin 10mg q 8 hrs. I'm sure that will help. Ask your doctor.

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I was taking 10/325 hydro's every 6 hours and now the Doc has prescribed 1 MS Contin 15 MG 3 times a day, is this equivilant to the Hydro

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