What Is Stronger Dilaudid Or Oxycontin 40 Mg? (Page 7)

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I have been on Dilaudid for over 2 years now and I can't seem to get off of it. I'm under a doctor's care, but anyone who is on it knows it's very addicting! I think like everybody else, it's no good if you take it orally. It's only effective other ways. I always run out of Dilaudid before my prescription is ready to refill and recently I filled a script for oxycontin 40 mg to see if they could replace my 4 mg Dilaudid. However, I took 1/2 of a 40 mg. and felt nothing. An hour later I took my 4 mg Dilaudid and it seems to have worked. But they are very short lived, that's why for chronic pain they like to give these stupid time release pain pills. How many mg.'s does equal the same amount of Dilaudid? I also would like to know if anyone has ever tapered off of Dilaudid? You get really sick when you try to get off of it, really intense vomiting and stomach pain that lasts forever. I have never stuck it out, I always end up in the emergency room. All they do is give me a pain shot of Dilaudid and a prescription for it as well and send me home. They think there is something wrong with something else. I have even tried to tell them but they either don't want to get involved because I'm under a Dr.'s care or they are just stupid. I hope someone has the best kicking advice, I'd rather be straight or just be one of those once in a while users (RIGHT)!!!

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First off I feel really bad for anyone who has anytype of pain it is very hard to live with. Ihave cronic back pain and I already had 3 back surgerys. I take 30 mgs of Opana 3 times a day plus 8 mgs of dilaudid 4 my break through pain and 2 10/325 of norco at night time for bedtime. My only advive is your not going to be pain free. So when I wake up I rate my pain 1-10 if itsat a 8 then I take my pills I pray they work and I go down to a 6 or even a 5. That means there working we will never be totally pain free, but we can get a little relif from our meds. My big mistake was I wanted tobe pain free and that will never happen. Just try to hang in there and get a good support group!
ManyBlessings

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For the guy talking about switching to methadone, methadone is actually worse than any of the other medications. The withdrawals from them are some of the worst. The drug stays in your system longer, so the withdrawal lasts longer and is more intense. That drug goes deep into your body and is hard to get out. I would never recommend someone to do that, most doctors won't even prescribe them anymore. And my pharmacist even told someone if they wanted to live they needed to get off the methadone. Now suboxone is a good drug to use to cure your withdrawals but it will not cure your addiction, you really are trading one drug for another, it's just with suboxone you don't get messed up as well as you are unable to get high from the drug. My brother is addicted to roxycodone as well as anything he can get his hands on, even with the suboxone. If you want to get rid of your addiction, truly get rid of it, you have to get professional help, as cleaning up will be harmful possibly deadly depending on how bad you are addicted. The main thing though is you have to want it and it is all up to you. You are the only one that can change yourself. And if you aren't truly ready, because it is a life change, you shouldn't waste anyone's time in helping you. You make your own decision, you either want to live or you want to die. And I do know pain, I have 4 herniated discs 3 bulging discs and an annural tear in my thoracic area. No fix for that and I do not take any medication for it. So trust me I know living with the pain sucks but it's much better than being addicted to pills.

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well your definately special!!!! i cant stand any pill

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Infogirl, You have no idea what it is you are talking about..Unless you are an MD, I would like to see where your PROOF comes from. Most pain managment doctors prefer using methadone because methadone isnt like most other opiates that give patients a high. Methadone blocks the high from other opiates and that is why doctors prefer prescribing it instead of oxys or even vicodin,There is reason that a doctor wouldnt prescribe methadone and that is if a patient has a certain kind of heart problem, I forgot what it is called, but it has something to do with irregular heartbeats. Your post is all 12 step BS, if you want to be a 12 step zombie, that is your thing, but this is NOT a recovery forum, it is a forum for chronic pain patients who may or may not be dependent on their medication, and that tis NOYB. A better website for you would be na.org. If you arent a chronic pain sufferer who needs opiates this is not the place for you to come preaching about addiction and your 12 step dogma

Pat

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No its not right hes takingyou from a non opiate right back to a highly addictive opiate it makes no sensr

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It really depends,if you take them both by mouth then dilaudid isn't as strong orally and only last about 3 hours. OC 40taken by mouth (especially if you dont chew it up) then it takes alot longer, but once it finally does kick in then it will hold you 6-8 hours(they say its a 12 hr pill but i''ve never gotten 3 hours relieve..
Now on the other hand if you shootup up the 4 its instant and gives you an intensense euphoric feeling, but it only last 2 hours and the rush is over in about 30 seconds. What i do is shoot them in my muscle, you feel it in the first few minutes and last longer than if you mainline it, get maybe 3 hours. dilaudid is just a short term medicine, works great for instant relieve but thats why when your in the hospital its usualy ordered every 2-4 hrs,especially if your opiate tolerant (which i spend about as much time in the hospital as i do out) so i've been playing this game awhile..
But if your just swallowing the pills, i'd stick with the 40mg oxy

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I totally agree with you, I have the same problem but the ones that talk about me are family. I would like for them to one day have the pain I have every day all day and them see if they would talk about me. Being addicted isnt fun but being in pain is far far worst.

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I didn't have that problem, I took suboxone for 3 months and when I stopped there was no withdraws. Not sure why you are still having w/d's you shouldn't be. Check with you doctor you w'd period is over and I didn't have w/d's from the suboxone

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I have what they consider Chronic Neuropathy from a Thoracotomy and back surgery.I have been used as a Guniea Pig for the last 13 years.They think I have too much Nerve damage for them to help,so they won't try to remove the old damage.I would let them try it in a heart beat!!Instead ,they just keep the pain pills coming at me and in 13 years,I have finally graduated to the Dialdid.It just barely takes the edge off my pain for a very short time.I hurt 24/7 constantly.It never quits.I can't seem to find any Doctors that want to even try and help me with this pain.My stomach is bloated out and I look 9 months preg.I am 74,so guess they figure I am too old to help.I am disabled from this pain and my son has to do anything that gets done.I can still walk,but am on oxygen and can't get far:) I can't get in the tub and take a bath as I can't pull myself out.I am Raw Sore internally and Externally,but the Docs have no idea what the cause of this isand they just keep giving me pills.I have to take sponge baths as I also get dizzy in the Shower.
I just want to get off anykind of pills,but am afraid to after 13 years of taking pills.I have been off them sometimes for maybe a week,but how do you tell if you are hooked or will have withdrawels??
I JUST WANT TO GET AWAY FROM ALL OF THEM BECAUSE I HAVE NOT BEEN GIVEN ANY THAT TAKES ANY OF MY PAIN AWAY.ALL THEY DO IS NUMB THE EDGE A LITTLE...
ARLENE

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How long does it take for a dilaudid 4 to get into your urine. How long does it stay there

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OOOKK. Some one said just suck it up aand deal with it!! Obviously you have never had to deal with real pain. Ive been told my pain is in my head. The fact is...my back has been broke my neck also Lots of pain in my back and in my leggs and the neck pain is the worst. Does that sound like its in my head?? Morphine and oxycodone and dilaudid dont control it. So what now? should I just buck up and deal with it??

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I just can't believe people post on here looking for something to get"high" on.Maybe they started out needing pills for actual PAIN,but then ended up getting "hooked" on this stuff.I hate taking any kind of Drugs,but I have Neuropathy so bad from old surgery,I take what they give me,and "none" have helped,so far.NERVE DAMAGE is hard to calm down even.Now they want to put me on Predisone and I am more afraid of this than the drugs.
I just feel sorry for anyone that has actual PAIN.I do feel sorry for the ones that have got "hooked".How do you know if you are Hooked,or when you will get withdrawls?

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if u took nothing for a week and did not get sick odds r you will not have any withdrawals. Are you taking more then needed r u seeking more all then etc. odds r u are only dependent on the med. Bets of luck

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i get great relief from take diladid orally, I must be lucky, however my ex lost 3 fingers from shooting up oxys. IT'S DANGEROUS. That's why you are not suppose to, its called being a drug addict no matter how may ways you want to believe that you're not.

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As a idiot who has somehow lived through using narcotic drugs since 1971, one thing is always certain, one narcotic may be stronger than the other ( whether it's "off the hook" heroin or 5mg.vicodan) but they ALL WILL get you strung out! After kicking more times than I, or anyone else that knows me, could EVER guess, nobody wants to be dope sick regardless of what the narcotic is. Methadone last alot longer than other narcotic withdrawls BUT it's all the same dread when you know there is nothing to wake up to when your strung out. Anyway, switching from Sub's to 2mg. Dilaudid's( and V's) is NOT a very smart move if your sincerely trying to clean up. Your M.D. must be enjoying your cash, or insurance, because that was a lame switch if he knows your intent to be clean. Hate to say it , Brother, but there is NO secret remedy when strung out, you will have to "pay the due's" to get things right. It may be 3 to 5 days OR it may be 4 month's before you get a night of "normal" sleep. I don't know your history, etc., but just be strong, my friend, and get past the initial week and take it from there.BE STRONG AND YOU CAN DO IT !!!

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To Arlene.. We dont judge here, if you feel you need to talk trash about anyone who is here, then you probably belong in NA..Thiis IS NOT a recovery board.

Pat

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SORRY IF I HURT ANYONE'S FEELINGS.I KNOW WHAT PAIN IS AS I LIVE IN 24/7 AND DOCS DO NOT KNOW WHAT TO GIVE ME.I JUST GET TIRED OF BEING SWITCHED TO ALL THIS MEDS THAT DO NOT HELP..SORRY GUYS..
ARLENE

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ALL YA PPL NEED GOD IN YOUR LIFE THERES NOTHING STONGER THEM HIM HES YOUR SAVER IM GOIN THRU THE SAME PROBLEM WITH MY BOYFRIEND HIS SHOTING DILAUDID I DONT NOW WHAT ELSE TO DO TO HELP HIM HE SAYS THAT HE DONT NEED ANY HELP HE SHOOT 8 TIME A DAY

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To God is here..
Please go to a boaed about religion This boaed is about medications and this thread is concerning chronic pain. Stick to the subject..

Pat

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thank you for sticking up for the ones that truly suffer, myself being one of them

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