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What Is Stronger Dilaudid Or Oxycontin 40 Mg? (Page 3)
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Neil Says:
I have been on Dilaudid for over 2 years now and I can't seem to get off of it. I'm under a doctor's care, but anyone who is on it knows it's very addicting! I think like everybody else, it's no good if you take it orally. It's only effective other ways. I always run out of Dilaudid before my prescription is ready to refill and recently I filled a script for oxycontin 40 mg to see if they could replace my 4 mg Dilaudid. However, I took 1/2 of a 40 mg. and felt nothing. An hour later I took my 4 mg Dilaudid and it seems to have worked. But they are very short lived, that's why for chronic pain they like to give these stupid time release pain pills. How many mg.'s does equal the same amount of Dilaudid? I also would like to know if anyone has ever tapered off of Dilaudid? You get really sick when you try to get off of it, really intense vomiting and stomach pain that lasts forever. I have never stuck it out, I always end up in the emergency room. All they do is give me a pain shot of Dilaudid and a prescription for it as well and send me home. They think there is something wrong with something else. I have even tried to tell them but they either don't want to get involved because I'm under a Dr.'s care or they are just stupid. I hope someone has the best kicking advice, I'd rather be straight or just be one of those once in a while users (RIGHT)!!!
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Thank you for saying that! I agree 100 percent. I only go to these kind of sites to get helpful info. That dumbass obviously only took pain meds to abuse them. Its people like them that make it so hard on us when we deal with the doctors. I was in a severe car accident a little while back and I'm always feeling like doctors and some other people don't believe me about how much pain I'm in. It hard cuz it seems like too many people judge, when they've never experienced something like that. And they don't understand that a lot of people aren't lying about it. If it was my choice, I would be pain free and never have to take meds. Its not like everyone enjoys having to live life like this.
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Jeanette Says:
I agree completely.... No one can judge unless u have been there...living with chronic pain is no joke to say the least... Trying to find the strenghth day after day to get out of bed, get dressed, work etc is a huge but huge mission to do with chronic pain.... The pain mgmt medication helps plenty... Either that or in bed for the rest of ur life.. For me I would prefer death...i can't even lay in bed comfortable with my pains..imagine with no medication... Dnt judge... Or u may just be in our shoes one day!!! This I wouldn't wish on my worst enemy!!
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Hustlahooligan Says:
I think switching to the 8 mg dilaudids for breakthrough pain would be a better mix than the 15mg650s you are currently taking Sara
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doodle Says:
hi i just saw your post ive tried it all duragesic the best but wont stay on my skin ive covered it done it all so im off that im on roxicodone 30mg 8 a day with 10mg of methadone 3 times a day not working what is dilaudid? i need a long acting med with the roxis bit tried it all opana oxycotin etc my pain is from my toes to my hands bad back from car accident and i had a viral infection that attacked my joint n i have permanent damage from that i think it was u that said u just dont care about anything when on the roxis its so true im so different i want off i tried i cant walk in the morning till i take 2 of my pills im 35 n i feel like im 75. any suggestions? i said i want off to all my docs n they say u need it yes i do if u dont understand pain n how much it affects your life then no one should comment i hate the meds i do but no choice. someone have any ideas for me please help everytime i take a new med i panic i freak out scared of how i will feel n to u a-holes who break it snort it u got probs its people like u that r making it hard for others to get meds they changed the oxycotin pills so u wont be able to break them anymore u can if u take a hack saw im sure n there is a shortage of the roxicodones now because the fda is limiting how much each pharmacy can have n like i said its due to the people who abuse it u wanna get high go make sumthin of your life go for a walk on the beach with good friends n good laughs thats a high so please any advice pass it thanks!!!!
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Greg Says:
I truley understand the Dr delima. Mine always says I'm under medicated. But that fog you live in is terrible if you take large doses. I broke my neck and live with that constant pain, I also had a post surgical mersa staph infection that damn near did me in. So I understand. Your so right on the people that abuse this drug. They make it so hard to get what we need to live. The price of oxycotin is rediculous. My share of 2x80mger is 379. a month. Have you tried mscontin? It's extended release morphine. I have found if I go 1 yr on oxycontin and then 1 yr on MScontin, the change seems to work as I get use to one and then the other. Good luck.
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Hustlahooligan Says:
I have tapered off Dilaudid myself twice. If you want to get off it without the sickness and pain you need to take one pill less each 2nd day. So if you take 6 then you take 5 for 2 days then you take 4 for 2 days and 3 for 2 days and 2 for 2 days and 1 for 2 days and a half for two days and a quarter for 2 days and then none and you wont have all the stomach pain and vomitting.I have been taking dilaudid for many years for pain i suffer from a spinal injury and I find it is great compared to the oxycontin. Dilaudid has relieved my pain better than the oxys and it is roughly 3.2 times stronger than oxycodone 1mg dilaudid= 3.2 mg oxy or and 8mg is like chewing a 25mg oxy if they made them
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david91402 Says:
I realize that chronic pain can be frustrating (for lack of a better word). However, after reading all the comments, you hopefully see that chronic pain is an individual problem; as is, the medications and other methods (including marijuana)---for controlling it. If there were a definitive answer, these comments wouldn't exist.
So, keep experimenting. The right combination is available. It's just hell discovering it!
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police211 jim Says:
congratulations on getting clean
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Mamawofkaleb Says:
You are exactly right. I am a RN (for 31 yrs) and until I had a out patient surgery gone wrong and left with Chronic pain I never had any idea how much those patients suffer. It took me 6 months and 5 more surgeries to try to correct the mistake made in the original surgery before anyone, (family or Dr) believed I was in the pain I was. Turned out the original Dr severed a very large nerve in my pelvis (THUS THE HORRIBLE PAIN). Finally, I got to see a pain Dr who put me on Opana ever 12 hrs and a short acting pain med for break thru pain. I cant say I have my life back but at least I can half way function. I agree that if I die because of the meds it was better than the suffering I was in before the meds. I was at the point of suicide before I found help.
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michaelrey Says:
im also in dilaudid 8mg 4 times a day for break through pain and 1 100 mg ms contin is this a high dose per day for severe pain which ive had for 12 years
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Greg Says:
YES! I broke my neck and had a surgery go bad. I know pain on a daily basis. But I let the drugs dictate my doses un knowingly. I ended up overdosing and if my next door nieghbor wasn't a paramedic...I'd be dead. All I'm saying is becareful my friend. I found I'm able to cope on much less.
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marty Says:
to human_helper meow. or bsically i hope you get bitten by a cat. Addiction has nothing to do with it. I've been going to a pain clinic for four years.(Three f'd up disces in back) causeing severe leg and back pain. I know by now i am addicted to my drugs but i would not be able to walk without them. It's not a question of addiction it's a Q off pain. Debilitating life altering pain!! the drugs make daily activates bearable. Suck it up. ARE YOU KIDDING ME. I tryed to suck it up. For four years and two surgeries with no drugs except for the drugs right after surgery. there is no sucking it up when you can't walk becuse of the pain.When you can't sleep.When you can't concentrate or even think strate becouse of the pain. For some people unfortanitly drugs are the only ansuwer. I don't whant to take them !! But the alternative is uncontionable. I am an addicted. But i would rather be an addict then be a ignorant jugmental prick.
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Mamawofkaleb Says:
To Marty, Thanks for letting 'Human_ helper' have it. Obviously someone who does not have pain and I question what he is doing on this site in the first place. Trying to find out how to take his recreational drugs perhaps without killing himself?? His day is coming! We (chronic pain patients) know we are addicted to the drugs. We are not idiots. We are in the most horrible pain we can imagine to have reached the place we are right now. I would give up all the meds I take and never even take an aspirin again in my life if I COULD JUST HAVE MY LIFE BACK before some quack surgeon ended it in 15 minutes! If your not a chronic pain patient, and I mean a REAL chronic pain patient, then keep your opinions about addiction to yourself! Joy, RN (mamawofkaleb)
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Greg Says:
Who the heck are you talking to?
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Mamawofkaleb Says:
Hi Greg,
I was agreeing with and responding to, 'Marty' who has a post right under mine. He was responding to a post on page 3 who called everyone on pain meds "addicts" and to suck it up and get off the drugs. Marty was telling that person who's user name is 'human_helper' to not judge the people who need to take the meds. Sorry I didnt make it clear who I was speaking to. joy ( user name - mamawofkaleb)
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Doctors R DrugDealers Says:
"kilit Says: "ookay, my advice, just suck it up, and deal with a month of bad pain, mind over matter, ive done almost ever single drug out there, and NEVER got addicted, i might be special, but dont be a big fat cat come on now. "
Its quotes like this that show there is no limit to idiocy. With response to "kilit" and the above quote...
i am sure many who are on opiods-e.g: oxy, morph..etc would attest that if an opition existed that was better than the friggin opiod drugs they would jump at it...i know i would. Oxycontin have ruined my life; so now its not just pain i have to live with, its a damn addiction that provides positive pain refief and makes it hard to function without. And to "Kilit" and your friend "Human Helper" its Damn near impossible to get off these drugs without assistance in some form or other...will power was erased as soon as one goes on an
80-160mg++/day opiod program. Another note in reference to "mind over matter (m/m)", try and understand this...i have smoked cigarettes and Dated Mary Jane for years now (smoked cancer sticks for 14yrs/ MJ and i have been together just as long and still see each other from time to time) and have NEVER had a problem quitting either (though ciggs are harder) with your "M/M theory" but when it comes to opiods and especially Oxycontin its hard to say use M/M when some form of matter has taken complete control of your mind. Some people think its just that simple to use M/M and DONT understand that addiction to these class of drugs doesn't mean that one just has a desire for but also your BRAIN actually develops more/new receptors to gain/recieve from the opiod effect as the old receptors have pretty much built a tolerance to the drug. This in effect is what an ADDICTION really refers to. so once again to "Kilit" and "Human Helper" get a clue or even better take some opiods for about three months straight and then write back to us about your Mind over Matter. And to anyone else...STAY AWAY from OXYCONTIN/HYDROMORPH-CONTIN and HYDROMORPHONE. No High is worth losing your life to and for pain users as my self seek alternatives if you can because once you get into a program of opiods it hard to go back. And one more note..Up here in Canada at least- Doctors and the whole profession dont deserve the respect they once did. The Title "DR" is undeserving as most seek the profession for the salary and lifestyle that comes with and not for the Healing, nurturing, and human aspect that use to define the principle and brought about the Hypocratic OATH (which really should be spelled "HYPOCRITIC OATH". They are truly OverPaid DrugDealers who receive visits from Phamceutical sales reps every few months or so and some questionable "Dr's" receive other incentives, in monetary form, for prescribing you certain drugs. My brother worked for a Major Pharmacy in Canada and said you would not believe how much incentives "Dr's" receive for "PUSHING certain drugs to patients. This to me defines one as a DRUG DEALER. Mind you I cannot discredit all "dr's" as some truly are fitted for the profession, but as for the majority its a damned shame that you seem to think you can do as horrible of a job as you want to and still receive your pay from OHIP. 10 yrs ago DR's made house calls, and 5 yrs before that house calls were very common. Now in canada its damn near impossible to find a good Family Doctor and on top of that one that cares about healing and is empathetic to his/her patients. Just a reminder to everyone on these boards...Dr's will always act arrogant and do less of a job then is required of them...as long as we "the people" allow them to. With enough complaints to the college/ your MP or Local Politician and enough word of mouth Dr's will either improve their service to an acceptable level or go in the way of airline pilots, especially with advancements into modern medicine.
The Point of all this: 1.STAY AWAY FROM OXYCONTIN, HYDR-OMORPH-CONTIN/HYDRO-MORPHONE and any other strong opiod. They all derive from the POPPY Plant (Same Plant as Heroin and Opium come from) and are very highly ADDICTIVE.
2. DEMAND more from your DOCTOR; REMEMBER that without YOU they can not exist and with enough complaints OHIP will either force them to comply or once again reduce billing limits, and hopefully extend patient time.
If not then Dr's remain and will exceedingly become less empathetic and more arrogant and also more responsive to; and serve ONLY the interests of their pocket books, PHARMACEUTICALS and NOT YOU!!.
Peace and Love to all. The Rapture is at Hand!
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Jesse B Says:
Hi my name is Jesse I was in a car accident in November of 08 and completely shattered one of my vertebrae I went into surgery imediatly and they replaced it with concrete and fused it together with two others. I didn't have insurance so I was prescribed 5 mg oxy for the first six months after my surgery and was cut off because I had to get a primary care doc for further treatment. Lucky for me my future mother in law also had back problems and was helping me out with some of her pills. She no longer takes them due to an electro implant but I finally have insurance and can't find any docs or pain clinics that will give me what I need for pain so I've had to buy them from a friend of mine. I was taking up to 7 or 8 30s a day and have tapered down to about 50 to 80 mgs a day the withdrawals are horrible but I don't know what to do I've tried everything from herbal to non narcotics and nothing seems to work like the oxy's it's the only way I can be comfortable and get through my day. Does anyone have any advice? I live in the Portland Oregon area and they seem to be cracking down on painkillers due to all the people who abuse them that aren't in pain they just want to get high and it just really upsets me that I have to suffer. So what I'm asking for is advice on what I should do and if anyone lives in my area ? Do they know any places that could help me ? Thank you...
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jennifer Says:
i have been on every medication in the world for the past 3 years and i can say the one that i had the most problems with was fentanyl yes its strong and it did take away most of my pain for the first year however you max out very fast you always need to be increased in mg's and after the first year the worst sweats and chills from it... so i asked dr to take me off that and just leave me on my 8mg of dilaudid but h said he couldn't that it wouldn't be enough pain control so he put me on butrans 20mg pain patch well its been 6 months and so far so good between the diluadid and butrans and kentamine pain cream and the lidocain pain patches im feeling pretty good.... stay away from oxy rocky and all the others that make you feel like s*** and take way what ever life you have left no heavy pain meds are good destroys your liver and everything else but we do what we have to to be some what pain free
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Peggy Says:
I have been on Oxcontin (oxycodone) 40mg. for long term relief of pain and Oxycocet 5 & 325 for breakthrough pain. My insurance company has just changed the medications that they will cover and as one of the alternatives they will cover Dilaudid which if I am correct is a short term pain reliever. I have been doing this for 20 years and with few increases in dosages. I have a feeling this is not going to be good. Any suggestions.
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peaches Says:
yeah i thought Suboxonee i know i spelled it wrong but my point is suboxone does have a opiate blocker so what is the point in taking any pain meds.you are defeating the purpose aintt that right.
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