What Is Stronger Dilaudid Or Oxycontin 40 Mg? (Page 23)

I have been on Dilaudid for over 2 years now and I can't seem to get off of it. I'm under a doctor's care, but anyone who is on it knows it's very addicting! I think like everybody else, it's no good if you take it orally. It's only effective other ways. I always run out of Dilaudid before my prescription is ready to refill and recently I filled a script for oxycontin 40 mg to see if they could replace my 4 mg Dilaudid. However, I took 1/2 of a 40 mg. and felt nothing. An hour later I took my 4 mg Dilaudid and it seems to have worked. But they are very short lived, that's why for chronic pain they like to give these stupid time release pain pills. How many mg.'s does equal the same amount of Dilaudid? I also would like to know if anyone has ever tapered off of Dilaudid? You get really sick when you try to get off of it, really intense vomiting and stomach pain that lasts forever. I have never stuck it out, I always end up in the emergency room. All they do is give me a pain shot of Dilaudid and a prescription for it as well and send me home. They think there is something wrong with something else. I have even tried to tell them but they either don't want to get involved because I'm under a Dr.'s care or they are just stupid. I hope someone has the best kicking advice, I'd rather be straight or just be one of those once in a while users (RIGHT)!!!

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So true I know I have to take meds I couldn't wear clothes because the passion should bee unbearable so I'll tak. Meds as long as they help me

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So true! I wish I had this time on my hands when I was younger! My apt. has a pool and I go maybe twice a year to lay out. Folks who aren't in chronic pain just don't get how hard it is to even get dressed and fixed up enough to run to the store for even basics like t.p.. When pain is minimal.....HAHA that's time for a shower and a load of laundry and perhaps a quick gloss over the carpet with the vacuum. No more happy hour or lunch out with a friend. Attendance is getting worse at school and hit or miss at church. Yeah boy! Life is one big party for us! we have nothing better to do than sit around whooping n hollering all day with our peeps and our pills!!! WOOOWEEEE! sigh! Jeepers even poor poochie can't count on scheduled walks anymore...we too busy partying it up! Truth is...most of us barely make it to the living room couch....BUT! It could be worse! I thank God I have a roof over my head and a roommate who does understand what I'm going through.

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Thank you! I completely agree with your reply regarding chronic pain patients many times NOT taken seriously because of patients out there that abuse their narcotics, especially so openly! I've been a chronic sufferer for many years, (migraine, fibromyalgia, arthritis). I have an understanding doctor at the moment, but he is VERY conservative with his pain management. I am very fortunate he is willing to prescribe what he does as far hasn't pain regimens goes. But, when I have to go to the ER for a severe migraine, and need Dilaudid (which has been part of my "migraine cocktail" for years at the same hospital), I find myself having to argue with some doctors over narcotic use. This notion that I am going to be an addict, is ridiculous! I am a chronic pain patient. A doctor will try all kinds of tricks he thinks will work for a migraine-but will refuse to give me a narcotic. Until finally, after 3-4 hours of still suffering, another doctor will take my case and say, "let's try something else." Then promptly check my previous hospital records, and treat me with what worked before: which includes narcotics PLUS a list of other meds. I am then finally given sweet relief. So, it does make me upset when I see posts about ppl talking about feeling "high" on their meds. Doctors begin to think most chronic pain patients are built this way-when it's not at all true!! I have been very careful, bc I realize I will need higher doses eventually. I don't abuse my medications. I just want to be another advocate for all of us chronic pain sufferers-who do not have enough compassionate doctors on our side. Not all of us are looking to get into trouble with our medications. We are looking for RELIEF, and a life. Thank you.

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Do you want a cookie????Let's see you have major shoulder surgery and come out not taking anything for pain...you don't know everyones situation so you should really watch what you say because it's very offensive especially to people that have been addicts most of their lives...and are now on a treatment program and still have to take narcotic even though it's against everything I believe in cuz I'm in that bad of pain....

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Yes you are special, but more than being special or anything else, you are blessed.....

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Your best way of not being sick is to get some suboxone 8 mg and keep them for when you run out. You can put one under your tounge 3 times a day and I promise you wont be sick.

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Debra.

I feel your pain. First, I am in the top 1% of migraine sufferers and nothing really works. Zomig, similar to Imitrex helps a little but when it doesn't and I need to go to the hospital I get the hardest time there. Even with a note from my doctor describing how to administer the amount of Dialudid, Phenergan, etc... They don't want repeat customers so they push Toradol, Benadryl, and steroids instead. It is very frustrating. I started to attend Narcotic Anonymous and tried to make friends. One person in particular, a guy befriended me. I would never date him or be his girlfriend. He eventually relapsed and turned into the biggest jerk ever; would argue with me to be his girlfriend and I refused. I tired to set a good example of what a friend is and what a friend does but that saying, teach an old dog new tricks applies. Eventually he became so frustrated with me, although I helped him over 100 times and he did jack for me, he turned against me and threatened to kill me - 20 text threats and 3 voice mail threats. He hid the fact that he was imprisoned twice and arrested 13+ times. He got 1 year knocked down to eight months knocked down to 3 months. He will be released 11/09. Anyway, the reason I mention him is he constantly went to the ER seeking drugs. One time he told me he broke his back and needed a ride to the ER. 4 hours later he is released and the nurse gave me his Rx to fill. I told him it is in my purse. I don't know what he was thinking, that I would steal it? I don't know but I gave it to him right a way. He wanted me to take him to the pharmacy to fill it and had a complete meltdown that I was going to a different pharmacy than where he goes. While waiting for the Rx to be filled he paced and paced like a freaking dog in heat! It was disgusting behavior and I help him all along to only have him b****, complain, and be ungrateful. It is people like this that make it harder on the people who actually have chronic pain. Like you, I have the migraines, Fibro, and back problems, and severe depression. So I really feel for you.

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A little touchy? Being an addict is horrible and at best you can maintenance. If someone didn't required pain meds after surgery, then you need to celebrate for her - that is a huge outcome - AND she was honest with herself to not use opiates because they are there.
The difference to being and addict and someone who is chemically dependent/opiate tolerant is that the meds are prescribed for the people who need pain medicine to make their life a little better, a little easier. A true addict uses the drugs not only for physical needs but for psychological needs as well in addition of not stopping when the pain is adequately treated whereas a true addict will keep using until he/she reaches that "high" or they run out of drugs. So who is being offensive here? An addict who makes it harder for people who really need pain medication. If you do suffer from chronic pain or have a pain issue then please note, this is not targeted at you - only the jerks who work the system, seeking pain meds for every reason BUT pain - these people ruin it for the people who seek treatment and not go to the ER to get meds in order to avoid withdrawal. I happen to know 2 - 3 people who are like this and it pisses me off to no end,

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I also have chronic pain for years, I take 2 24 mg hydromorphcontin and 6 -1 mg Dilaudid which is same, the 1 mg is for in between, but does very little, the 24 mg does good job but does not last the full 12 hours, 6 at most, but now days Doctors do not like to give pain killers, thanks to the people that are just abusing them and us people that really do need them suffer for those that are abusing them, and when I say abusing I mean selling them, which is bad for us people that have chronic pain. I still suffer 6 hours in between the 2 24 mg because the 1mg does very little, but I have feeling that doctors do this knowing it only last six hours and so that you dont have withdraws, they give you the 1 mg till you take the second 24 mg, knowing they only last six hours, the dr should boost the in between to 4 mg at least but because the Government is pinning down on Doctors, the doctors are afraid to give what patients really need.And I always thought I read the doctors took oath to take patients interest over anything. well if we tell doctor we still in pain, common sense would boost the mg to keep patient from suffering with pain. thank the Government for scaring these doctors when us real chronic pain people really need to stop suffering. this is not a long comment and my back is killing for sitting here writing this.

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I am on 6 8mgs of hydromorphone and 1. 100mcg/hr fentanyl patch that gets changed every 48 hrs. I am still in pain 24/7.what else can I take?

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Lee, please don't add anything else. You are on a lot. I once was on 150 mcg of Fenanyl Patch but was a Zombie. It slows your respiratory system down when you sleep. This drug is deadly. It is extremely hard to come off of. Do some research and you will see. It's so easy to overdose on prescription meds. Take care!

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First --I have found even though opiates feel wonderful and I believe good for you; women especially, there is no correlation between 'feeling them' and their effectiveness. I understand your frustration at having to do them other ways besides orally and still not feeling them. I love opiates! There I said it! It's out! I was on dilaudid 8mg 3 times a day along with 20mg OxyContin twice a day. I would at times 'do' all three at one time and not feel a thing, not even the rush at onset. However, they did work for pain, though not orally-they are useless that way. You need to really settle in your heart what your goal is. I can 'do' 180 oxycodone at one time and not feel a thing but they are my preferred pain med. why? They are effective at relieving pain. You have imho an incredibly low dose to begin with. Are you sure you want to quit taking? Why? Ask him to try you on oxycodone, it is hard to get. I think dilaudid is horrible for long term use-FOLKS LISTEN UP! Dilaudid is pre or post surgical and should not be used for chronic pain care! Chances are that if you are prescribed them, you are in a place that loves giving inj's! Dilaudid causes muscle spasms AND blood clots! When I was on dilaudid I begged for the oxy so I could get out and about and move my body. All I did was lay in the sofa and cry. I was despondent, suicidal, agoraphobic and just plain miserable. Although the pain was gone the side effects nearly killed me. Like a dummy I requested the back inj's (from spasms that dilaudid caused) and wound up in hospital for two months due to femoral blood clot that was so bad it took nearly a week of everyday them trying to break it up and shake it out. The reason they don't like to give oxy is because of the news stigma, they are blinded to the good it causes in addition to pain relief. Ok now go online and print out any info you can find that backs up the negative of the dilaudid and take to your next appt.. Try a different med and sorry sweetie but after two years you probably won't 'feel' anything so don't even try. I even had some mj last week and my friend was wasted and of course, I wasn't. I was in a better mood with a big smile (which is rare these days) but nope, couldn't feel a thing. The patch is a good extended relief option. Since being on it I don't get withdrawal when I run out of pills and when I was out of patch for a week AND pills (due to prior authorization hold up) there wasn't any withdrawal from either med. of course I do give credit to Gods abundant grace for that. When I was on opiates decades ago and gave my heart and life to Jesus there wasn't any withdrawal then either. God is a healer and the problems we are all having are just I believe ways he is using to have us rely more on him than these doctors. It makes sense that if insurance is disappearing for many and most pain clinics won't take cash and that affects you, then you are in a wonderful serendipitous moment! His grace is poured out for those who are. The rest of us are stuck in this crazy cycle until we too are rescued by the Lord.

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Well said know body knows how you feel! So I think it's a bunch of carp I had prescription for 150 4mg hydromorphin and Walgreens wouldn't fill it because I also was prescribed oxycodone 15 mg immediate release tabs,so Walgreens called my doctor and my script was cancelled! I also was given 2 morphine 60mg er tabs!!

I had my prescription taken away from me it was a script for 4mg 150 hydromorphone I also was prescribed oxycodone 15 mg so Walgreens took it on themselves not to fill my prescription which is wrong because they don't live in my body they don't know how I feel I also get 2 60mg er morphine er so Walgreens took it upon themselves to play God! Walgreens didn't think I needed 2 fast acting pain medications so they called my doctor and my prescription was cancelled!!

60mg morphine er so Walgreens just took it on them selfs to not fill my hydromorphone and they don't walk in my shoes they don't know my body!!! But they think they can play God!!

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Find a reason, focus and don't ever forget the consequences of going back

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Sorry to hear what Walgreens did to you. Yeah during my blood clot days, I was told by the hospital to stop taking the dilaudid so they orescribed me demerol. Walgreens refused to fill it since i was on dilaudid. Are we to explain everything to the pharmacist? How can they make choices for us like that? A week later when I was able to question them, they were like, "well, we didnt know". It seems we are not allowed to have in our ho es more than ine breakthrough whether we take them or not! Ridiculous!

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Yes you can. I did. And my dr has me take SubuTEX first for like ten days with the subs and clonidine and weans me off slowly. It worked well. Amitriptyline works great to curb cravings too and helps you sleep so try that. Hope this info helped!

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You're a f***ing joke!! I've had six back surgeries! There's no mind over matter when you can't even get out of bed!!

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My dr: has switched me from 60mg oxy ER (reds) to 30mg ER opana. I take with 15mg roxicodone for breakthrough. The opana is great. I find taking 1 every 6-8 hours works better than taking the OC
2-3x every 6-8 hours. You feel more relife with less with the opana. I haven't run out of my script early since being on opana. It also takes the pain from my back almost totally away so I can function at work and actually put my socks on lol.

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Why was it canceled? They are pharmacists not dr's and their job is to fill scripts based on guidelines. If you were trying to fill early (before 30 days) they can refuse to fill it. They'll say, "we are out of stock" which is bulls*** cuz on the 30th day they'll call and say your script is ready. But to call your dr and then it was canceled, maybe your dr panicked and second guessed himself. He's the only one that can cancel it not the pharmacy. I'd call or go see the dr and ask him to explain. Also for the future, use a mom and pop drug store to fill. They're much better at not giving problems as a major pharmacy will.

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You tried everything and never got addicted? Lmao! That's not a choice or anything you can control, you must not take enough. Taking 5mg of oxycodone every other day doesn't qualify for taking a drug for a month...

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