What Is Stronger Dilaudid Or Oxycontin 40 Mg? (Page 22)

I have been on Dilaudid for over 2 years now and I can't seem to get off of it. I'm under a doctor's care, but anyone who is on it knows it's very addicting! I think like everybody else, it's no good if you take it orally. It's only effective other ways. I always run out of Dilaudid before my prescription is ready to refill and recently I filled a script for oxycontin 40 mg to see if they could replace my 4 mg Dilaudid. However, I took 1/2 of a 40 mg. and felt nothing. An hour later I took my 4 mg Dilaudid and it seems to have worked. But they are very short lived, that's why for chronic pain they like to give these stupid time release pain pills. How many mg.'s does equal the same amount of Dilaudid? I also would like to know if anyone has ever tapered off of Dilaudid? You get really sick when you try to get off of it, really intense vomiting and stomach pain that lasts forever. I have never stuck it out, I always end up in the emergency room. All they do is give me a pain shot of Dilaudid and a prescription for it as well and send me home. They think there is something wrong with something else. I have even tried to tell them but they either don't want to get involved because I'm under a Dr.'s care or they are just stupid. I hope someone has the best kicking advice, I'd rather be straight or just be one of those once in a while users (RIGHT)!!!

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It's complete an utter chaos, s***s, vomiting, hot sweats/cold sweats, heat flashes, potential seizure, and can lasts up to a month, most often two weeks, my advice is to tartrate down off them I had a TBI, and am in horrible pain, but I decided I didn't want to be on them any more, kicked 3 10mg narcos, 4 1mg Xanax IR, 4 1mg Xanax XR, 2 1mg sublingual Klonipin, 25 mg of Librium, 5/10mg of Valium 3 for the 5/twice a day for the ten milligrams, and 1mg of halcion, not to mention regular klonipin, 2mg of that a day as well, 10 10mg of dexadrine, 30mg of flexiral a day, 300mg of fieracet, 50mg of Tramadol; twice a day, promethazine 25 mg 4 times a day, 400 mg of seraquel XR, 200mg of seraquel IR, 45mg of Buspar, 30 mg of namenda a day, 450mg of welbutrin, and 500mg of soma 4 times a day, I was a drug addict, addicted to the medication my doctor gave me, and consumed an ounce of marijuana a day and a pack of cigs everyday and I was tired walking around like a zombie all day, and put the image in my head that I no longer want drugs to rule my life, from the time I wake up to the time I go to bed, and I got to admit the detox of all that stuff felt wonderful, it feels excellent to be sober! Mind Over Matter, keep the concept in your head and I have faith in you, also I would highly recommend that you tartrate down from them, I know you take 4mg of the hydromorphone a day, but I don't know the frequency or variable; in other words the nature of this question is how often in real time do you take the hydromorphone?

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Hi Sandy, how have you been. Hope you are greeting some relief from your pains. I'm trying to get rest and think happy thoughts to help get my mind off the pain. But as you know yourself that,its a task all by itself. I've thought of ways to communicate with you and i even tried to send some info to you with no results. I'll keep reaching out and you do the same. Something will go thru. Talk to you soon okay.

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Hi Stro, yes I also have left messages for you that don't post. It's too bad, they should give you a way to communicate privately. I've had a few really bad days as well. Still glad to be off that patch! It is so dangerous and now it's on the streets. Sad! It makes it really hard on legit people like us that have to live with chronic pain and can't get our meds any longer. It is very hard to control the pain these days for me. I don't want to up my meds anymore. I don't want to end up a zombie again. I sure hope you are getting lots of rest and not overdoing it. It's been a while since I heard from you so you have been on my mind. It would be really nice to pick up the phone and call you! Take care of yourself. Till next time.

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Well Sandy,I had to go about a week without any of my pain medicationsdue to my pharmacy had not count the fill correctly and the new employee had gave me 45 pills short and that was a bad week for me. I ended up in the ER three times but I'm okay. I must say though,i sure had alot of sleepless nights ,in which I'm going thru that as we speak! And thank you for making me feel special because i was on your mind. You were on mine as well. Until we speak again,try to stay comfortable and as pain free as possible.

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Lung cancer diagnosis one month ago, severe pain in upper right chest cavity under my ribs. Thus far Rx.d Dilaudid with a pain pump for break thru...is there any other available treatment available? Thank you.

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Hi, first off I am sorry about your diagnosis. My husband passed from that 13 yrs ago. There was not much treatment then for pain. I would suggest you go on Fentanyl Patches. They will help immensely for you pain. Also you probably should be in some sort of anti anxiety meds. Like alprazolam. Stay positive. Sending prayers your way

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Hi there! I am so sorry to hear of your Dx. Thankfully you are able to find some relief with the pain pump. I have one myself. It started with Dilaudid but I experienced abad reaction to the Dialudid so they changed the medication to Fentanyl but I still take Dilaudid 4mg for break through pain. They should of given you something for break through pain, if not, it doesn't hurt to ask. They probably won't give you a long acting opiate like methadone, but if I were you, I'd not accept Vicoden, Tylenol 3, or the like. Dilaudid works really well in my opinion and it is much stronger than the previous named Rxs. Best of luck to you.I'd like to know how it goes. You could probably call to make the request but will have to pick up the Rx in person and then to the pharmacy, it is something they can not call in, it is a Schedule 2 opiate. Good luck, let me know how it goes.BTW, your doctor knows that break through pain does occur, even with the pump.

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Hi! I am so sorry you had to go through withdrawal syndrome due to the hands of some incompetent person. Depending on your drug, it makes a difference how bad and how extreme they are. Don't get me wrong, they are all bad. I keep a stash of Clonidine on hand in the event I run out or something happens; I have yet to use it but about 6 years ago they screwed up my order and called me to tell me to pick up a Rx for Clonidine and I would feel much better. It did make me feel much better compared to not taking it. Just a tip if you get your stuff messed up again or run out. I don't recommend buying from a pharmacy where you don't need a Rx. It could be drywall for all I know.

I hope you won't have to go through that again. People who never go through that have no idea how intense and awful it is. I describe it as having the flu times 100. Good luck!

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Hi Sandy, I'm not resting as much as I should. And I'm really suffering from pain Alot more than usual. I'm just going thru life hurting like hell but I have to keep a smile OK my face. Hope you are coping with the day to day pain that people like us have to go thru. It really would be nice to pick up the phone and connect to eachother right! But until then,we'll manage. Nice to hear from you. Till the next time.

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Sandy,

I wish you the best of luck. If you want someone to speak with, I can make myself available {edited for privacy}

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Sandy,

What part of the country do you reside?

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Oh Stro, I'm so sorry to hear this. This is not a way to end the summer off. It's funny how we always have to put a smile on our face and carry on! The work still has to get done right? It's hard with chronic pain and not having help. The government needs to help us more! I wish I could pick up the phone to check in on you. I think of you often and if you were near I think we would be good friends. Please try to get some rest and to hell with that smile today! It's okay to not smile everyday! Stay strong! Until next time :)

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Hi Brittney, I live in Ontario Canada

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I am on 8 mg dilaudid up to 6 times a day as needed for arthritis pain. Sometimes when it gets really bad I have taken 3-4 more a day. On days it's not as bad I can get by with 2-3. I have to have days where I use less so I don't run out. I have built up a supply by getting by with less so in case it gets really bad I have enough to make it by for a while. Even though I'm on them I still have pain and sometimes wonder if they really help much. So I have got of them for a while to compare. I have no trouble getting down to 2-3, then I may use half pills, maybe 2-3 a day, then half pill only when I feel the withdrawal symptoms coming on. Then after a few days of that I cut down to a 1/4 pill only when I feel symptoms coming on. Now for me it was pretty hard stoping that last 1/4 pill a day. I wouldn't think a 1/4 pill was that much, but stoping it was probably the hardest part of getting off. But after several times of trying I was able to just struggle through. A trick I did was try to time the withdrawal symptoms of that last 1/4 pill so they were at night when I was sleeping. And I got off. So the difference between taking them or not for me wasn't a whole lot. But it took the edge off the pain enough to make taking them worthwhile. So if I really had to get by without them I guess I could. But the times when the pain would really get bad would be a nightmare without them. But that's how I was able to get off them. You might need to draw things out even more and go at a slower pace.

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Thank you so much! You are a dear! Thank you so much for divulging your struggles and success with getting off of Dilaudid. I have so much respect and admiration for you. My new Dr. is trying to get me from 4 to 3/day and I am so against it. A year ago it was increased to 4/day and I lost 100 lbs because I was more active and there were several other areas of improvement that were reflected in the "Pain Cycle." My Dr. then, retired last month and the new Dr. is adamant about getting me down to three and I believe she has a hidden agenda to get me down to two/day and then one and off - not keeping in mind I have 3 separate chronic pain issues. For 7 years prior, I was on 3/day - so "been there, done that." It doesn't matter that for the past 8 years with my Dr. (that she knows) that I was compliant and did everything they ever asked me. I wasn't asking for an increase - she has documented evidence to support what I say but chooses to ignore it. So frustrating. I wish I am able to do what you did. In a sense I am going to be forced to do it and I am so scared that I am going to search for something to fill that void; to ease that pain. I don't like being addicted - no one does - not in the true sense when you become a slave to it. With that being said, the fear of the pain in the form of a severe migraine, the fibromyalgia (now that it is getting so very cold) and reflex sympathetic dystrophy vs. addicted - being addicted seems like the lesser of the two evils. If you have any input or suggestions, I would love to hear from you.

Again, thank you so much for giving of your time and your method of coming off of Dilaudid. I am going to try yours out as the doctor makes changes to my Rx every week. :*(

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Hey Pimmsey, sorry to hear of your struggles. I feel that will also be happening to me soon as my doctor will be retiring. I currently take 2 mg of dilaudid for break thru pain every 4 hrs and long acting dilaudid 6 mg every 12 hrs. I still have some pain but could not imagine not having them. I too have also tried every narcotic out there. All I can advise is to stay away from the Fentalyn patch if you can. It takes over your mind and you become a zombie that sleeps constantly. We are not addicts. We have legitimate pain. For ten years I was on 150 mcg of the patch along with oxyneo and percocets. That is such an incredibly high dose I am lucky to be alive. So now I only take dilaudid and that's pretty good. I came off every thing slowly as well as quiting smoking cold turkey. I am doing so much better now. I hope you can get your doctor to understand the pain you have and that you don't quite have enough. Kiss their ass in other words lol. Good luck and stay positive!

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Sandy,

Thank you so much for your response, I value what you say and it really means a lot when there is someone out there who knows what you are going through and all the "Ass Kissing" involved just to feel better. That is all we want, to feel better. It isn't our faults that we acquire these conditions that are so incredibly difficult and painful that we resort to such strong medications for relief. I mean, if ibuprofen worked, we would take that instead. We didn't start here with Dilaudid and Duragesic patches. No. We started, as almost everyone does, with ibuprofen and tylenol and then maybe vicoden and percocet, and so on and so on. Not only are our conditions difficult to deal with, the people we know, who don't have chronic pain - they don't understand, unless someone lives with you, then they have an idea - but it is so easy for them to judge, give their opinion and advice, and frankly NO ONE WANTS to be NEAR A SICK PERSON. Even if it isn't contagious, no one likes to be around a sick person. Doctors hate, yes, HATE, their patients. So the aftermath of dealing with our illnesses when dealing with other people is not easy, especially when they've never been sick or have chronic pain. If you can't work and you are on disability, you aren't in the mainstream of things and that kind of world passes you by. A lot of people make friends with people at work or meet their S.O./spouses, so you miss out on opportunities to make friends and other relationships. And that is IF YOU FEEL WELL enough to integrate yourself. My brother thinks I have all the time in the world because I don't work. He thinks that my life is rosy and great and awesome. He is sorely mistaken (not talked in 6+ yrs). I explained my job is to get better or at least find a way to feel better. I am lonely, I am tired, it is not rosy. It is difficult when you don't feel well and you can't clean the house or take care of normal stuff, because again, you are not part of mainstream society. If you do feel well, who wants to spend that time cleaning the house? So when my friends came over and the house wasn't pristine, I apologized for the mess and told them, "Well you came to see me and not my house, right?" Then I didn't feel quilted into it looking perfect for them and it nearly killing me so that after they left, I wouldn't be laid up in bed for 2 days.

Anyway, I don't know if what I say helps anyone; I certainly don't try to hurt anyone or offend anyone. If I have, please know it wasn't intentional.

I wish there was some way that some of us who want to be online friends can do so. This site doesn't encourage it whatsoever, that is sad. We are a bunch of souls who are in need of support, online and offline. It is a shame. Good luck, good will, go forth, and go pain (as in go away)!

Pimmsy

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Pimmsley, everything you said is bang on. I agree that this site doesn't help you meet or email or call the other people on here. I have met a few nice women but don't know how to post my personal info without all in the world seeing it. It sucks. I hate not having friends. Like you said when we are at home all day you can't make friends. See, I like you already and would love to talk to you in some manner. Till we figure something out, take care!

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I hate to say it due to the stigma with IV but you are right, oral does nothing! Don't get me wrong, I don't feel anything from IV either but at least I get pain relief, no lethargy and my head stays clear and alert. Even oral oxy anything makes me just feel weird, not high or euphoric but just really weird and disassociated. A quick shot in the morning and I'm off to school sharp as a tack!

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Okay, I am not a doctor. What I can tell you is my experience when I have come off of Dilaudid. Yes, withdrawal is so God-awful I wouldn't wish it on anyone. With that being said, this is how I was able to do the easiest withdrawal. You can cut down your meds very slowly and used a pill cutter, yes I know the tablets are very small. but cut down 1/2 tablet every other day. If this can't be done or controlled, and I understand the lack of control then this is the other option, particularly when you are completely out. In fact, I would not combine this method with taking any Dilaudid. There is a drug called Clonidine. It is a heart medication. One of the reasons you get so incredibly sick coming off of opiates is your blood pressure is all over the place and that makes you really sick. So Clonidine is given to level out the blood pressure. You won't feel 100% but you'll feel 100 times better than cold turkey. Clonidine comes in various doses: 0.1mg, 0.2mg, and 0.3mg. They come in patches and tablets. Depending on the form of medication, you will need to use it according to your current intake of Dilaudid, you don't want to take too much and you definitely want to check on the internet to make sure there is no interaction with any of your other medications. The tricky part is getting it from a doctor. If you get it from your doctor and you explain why, once you get off the Dilaudid he/she won't prescribe anymore. Doctors have access to your pharmacy information - everything is on it. So you are kind of in a catch-22 situation. I can only suggest extreme caution and care. Whatever you do, DO NOT ATTEMPT, DO NOT ATTEMPT to buy any Dialudid via internet!

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