What Is Stronger Dilaudid Or Oxycontin 40 Mg? (Page 18)

I have been on Dilaudid for over 2 years now and I can't seem to get off of it. I'm under a doctor's care, but anyone who is on it knows it's very addicting! I think like everybody else, it's no good if you take it orally. It's only effective other ways. I always run out of Dilaudid before my prescription is ready to refill and recently I filled a script for oxycontin 40 mg to see if they could replace my 4 mg Dilaudid. However, I took 1/2 of a 40 mg. and felt nothing. An hour later I took my 4 mg Dilaudid and it seems to have worked. But they are very short lived, that's why for chronic pain they like to give these stupid time release pain pills. How many mg.'s does equal the same amount of Dilaudid? I also would like to know if anyone has ever tapered off of Dilaudid? You get really sick when you try to get off of it, really intense vomiting and stomach pain that lasts forever. I have never stuck it out, I always end up in the emergency room. All they do is give me a pain shot of Dilaudid and a prescription for it as well and send me home. They think there is something wrong with something else. I have even tried to tell them but they either don't want to get involved because I'm under a Dr.'s care or they are just stupid. I hope someone has the best kicking advice, I'd rather be straight or just be one of those once in a while users (RIGHT)!!!

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U probably need to go to rehab and there's usually no such thing as a once in awhile user!

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I started on pain pills when I was seventeen. Head on the a double barrel Sunkist lemon contracting McKeon truck company at 75 miles..1975...I now use interthecal pump With oxycodone. .120 30mg a month running with dilaudid but the catheters broke off n.now they up the oral to 10 30 mg of oxycodone and my insurance says only 590 every 90 days..This is not a DEA law it's someone behind a desk grabbing numbers from their ass...currently insurance has hold I only have the dilaudid. .to get them I can appeal to my Office of Personnel Management Washington DC...I DON'T understand how they can do this when every case is different and their mind should be open. My back has been broken 2 more times a shattered tib/fib ankle ....elbow...foot..have broken 7 ribs 2 different times..barrettes disease...and in pain any suggestions?

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Hello,
Could you please explain your illness / per trauma. Where your pain evolves from.
Kashmir

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Your right, to many people self medicate themselves. If I were to take all the pain medications that was once prescribed to me, I wouldn't of been able to walk, let alone think or function. I don't like that drugged up feeling & that's why I quite taking all of the pain meds that the Dr had me on. I only took my pain meds when I absolutely had to take them!!! Everyone has their own way of figuring out what works best for them & how they take their meds. Dr's think they know everything about you, when they've just met you & if you try & explain things to them about yourself, they turn a deaf ear!!!!

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You know it's easier said than done with dilaudid and I'm saying this because I have been taking it for 2yrs as well, ooh and by the way i sucked it up 20yrs ago and went cold turkey off coke, but dilaudid is a beast and I'm trying to taper down. So slow you're roll a lil.

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"So slow you're roll a lil."??????? What the heck does that MEAN?

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Hi. Jus wanted to say with Dal. Its way better health wise then oxcy. Oxcy long term has many more disadvantages. Besides takes less the oxcy.

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Agree!!!

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your story sounds familiar as I have the same problems and I always run out before it's time to renew the only one good thing is that I am on morphine as well and I try not to take those while I have my dilaudid so I do have those to help kick off of the sickness but it is hell trying to come up with them good luck to you.

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You can actually find the way off by being put on Tramadol 10 mg and you don't have to take so many as to replace one addiction with another, I found that I didn't have the discomfort that I had when I would end up running short on my perscription of percocet which while under Doctors care I was prescribed, and each time I would run short I would end up going thru withdrawal. A very uncomfortable situation. The doctor's wanted me to undergo methadone therapy, which can be as addictive as the original script!

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H Addict - To whom are you responding? Thanks!

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I completely agree that some people have so much to say when in fact they have no idea what they are talking about. Pain medication is extremely controversial...........People have very strong opinions with very few facts. And I say, if you have never experienced chronic pain and never had to experience the need to treat this pain with narcotics, kindly keep your opinionated thoughts to yourself. I also strongly hope and something tells me your not...........but, I strongly hope that your intravenous use is being done by a doctor or by a nurse with a doctor's support.

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Hi Deb! In response to your post/comments of March 15, 2015, 8:38 am, I can only say - YOU TELL 'EM! I have a serious, barely treatable, completely incurable chronic pain condition with which I've been dealing for 22 years. I struggled for the first 15 years to get any and/or adequate pain relief that would allow me to have some kind of life. For the last 7 years, I've been blessed with a doc who "gets it" and treats the pain appropriately. There are still far too many people with my condition (and other pain conditions) who suffer through each day with no relief, due in great part to those people of whom you speak--both lay people and medical people--who have judged us all as drug seekers and addicts, though they know not of what they speak! And the actual drug seekers/abusers don't help to refute the misconception that anyone who takes these medications is in it for the "high." To which I say, "What high?" There's never been ANY euphoria for me from my pain relievers, other than the great relief and joy of being able to have SOME semblance of a "normal" (though still restricted) life with family and friends. As you indicated, there's too much talk from those without sufficient knowledge and experience of these matters. Bless you!

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Hi! We should become friends. I have been on Dilaudid for a long time too. I used to run out all the time and go through tremendous withdrawals. I never understood how anyone could go through stronger opiate withdrawals knowing how bad Dilaudid is. I can't even imagine.

I am guessing you have some sort of chronic pain. What is it? What milligram are you on? How much do you actually take to run out? Mine, I have severe, debilitating migraines in addition to fibromyalgia. I am able to get a weekly Rx for the Dilaudid. You can call me Pimmsy. I am on the east coast. Nice to meet you. How are you?

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hey, I have taken, and been adictided to both oxycodine and dilaudid the best way is to taper down by 2mg less every 2 weeks if done right you wont get sick and could kick it or taper down to an amount that you can live with. Best of Luck....

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Try kratom to come off any doc prescribed pain med. Do your research. Suboxone and all opiates are the devil

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I apologize if this is rude, but it is obvious that you have never experienced severe enough pain especially on a daily basis that never goes away and never stops or there is no way you could sit behind a computer and type something so careless, self-righteous and so stupid as writing to just suffer for a month....mind over matter. Your thoughts seem straight up foolish, prideful and arrogant for thinking in such a way. not everyone wants to be on narcotics everyday such as myself, not every person abuses their meds just because some days are much worse with pain and they take an extra pill or two to get tolerable pain levels. I just tell my doc who and what, why if I get any controlled substance from another doc like if I get sick and need script cough syrup since my pain manag. doc is 50 min from my home. I have chronic pain from a work injury to my back and from a botched spinal tap to check for meningitis. All my doctors are informed of all meds. The sad part is people that have to take pain medications for legitimate chronic pain despite transparency if you have to go to the ER for something different despite high temperatures or other obvious un-fakable issues can treat us like we are just a bunch of druggies and be rude and downright cruel for no dang reason. I was denied a light sedation that is often offered in ER's for spinal taps and adequate pain control for the worst headache, severely painful breathing and 102 temp even though I had been in the ER for 10 hours and had not taken my regular pain medications for even longer. I was given a little pain medication that is the only one that does not work on me and never has they found when I flew through the windshield at 17. I asked for even non narcotic to relieve head pain, I was ignored until after my 3rd spinal tap attempt when I was finally sent to xray, I came back crying and begging for them to do something, they gave me as I had requested, what they give me when I had gone in 1 or 2 times a year for an intractable migraine......except the strong pain med that gets rid of the headpain, I didn;t care and it made me so happy to tell that doctor when the steroid, zofran and benedryl they used worked better than the little 2 small doses of morphine over 12 hours that does not work on me and I was left to suffer the whole time despite me asking for help, and I felt so much better... HAHA!

The last cruel ER doc that would not even give a slight sedation for the spinal taps that are painful and was way worse with head pain...despite shaking and sweating from the severe pain I was in, that ER doc hit sciatic nerve or something that caused sciatic pain in right butt, after trying blind twice THEN sends me to xray despite me telling her I had old crushed vertebrae ans possible abnormal anatomy. This judgmental, purposeful even more pain inflicting doctor despite high fever and blood pressure is now the cause of the most severe pain that runs down my leg for the last 5 months and I did nothing to deserve it and I was completely honest and never insisted on narcotic meds. There are many chronic pain sufferers that would much prefer to be free of the jail cell of pain than deal with peoples ignorant opinions like yours and especially ignorant actual pain management doctors, ER phhysicians, physicians, PA's who have never experienced the pain people go through and treat us like we have just a toothache. Why don't you go completely break you leg and use your mind to get rid of the pain for a month. Thats the nice example.....now go get 2 long knives and shove them deep into your lumbar back and right hip through butt and leave it there, make sure you get the sciatic nerve really well then go to work, try to sleep, bend, lift, twist, stoop, walk, stand and sit everyday with out removing the long knives........ever. Make sure you go find a few heartless or just out of school pain specialists that have never experienced crap for pain and let then go tell you to do some yoga when you can even hardly walk then tell you to reduce your already not enough too little pain meds to nothing because you just have to, when they cant even live their own life with what they are trying to tell you to do. If I could reduce pain meds believe me I would because I hate feeling demeaned and subjected to the U/A's required by law for pain management patients and judgmental attitudes, looks and opinions of doctors because of abusers who have ruined adequate pain control and dignified treatment despite the fact I have a federal job and I far from look like an addict.

Mind over matter lasts for so long and may improve some things for a short time but until you can't even work your job at all even with taking stronger pain medicine that you wish you could be free from that prison in the first place, ignorant thoughts such as what you wrote are best kept in your own mind. I believe in God, I pray, I take the #1 vitamins in the world, I have tried biofeedback and focus on the pain leaving my body ect ect. I have tried tons of over the counter remedies, rubs, ice, heat you name it I have probably tried it. When it comes to consistent pain where you wake up in pain and that's what everyday is like you have to look forward to and its like living in a prison cell with no way out and your quality of life is based on your pain medications being sufficient enough for you to live in a tolerable level of 5-7 on scale of 1-10 and even more importantly your pain management Dr. always takes care of your medications where your not scared to death if your pills will be approved and if so on time so that you wont wish god would just put you out of your misery cuz your going to be suffering and you did nothing to deserve to live like that and should not have to but because so many people not in pain have abused pain meds, it makes it a living hell many times for those whose quality of life and being able to move or function depends on some pain relief. It's also imperative that a pain management Dr. not only has true understanding about the pain for certain conditions that ARE verifiable through diagnostics but that they also understand not every nerve problem or disc issue etc is going to come up on the diagnostics and still treats you with the respect and dignity you deserve and ensures your treated appropriately. I am not meaning to bash those who struggle with abuse of medications, my heart goes out to them and I pray for freedom, they suffer as well, just in a different way. I wish no one had to suffer in pain when there is sufficient treatment available but are made scarce the majority of the time because of those who struggle with abuse and because of those that have crappy opinions when they have no clue what they are talking about.

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Darling, my heart goes out to you, I am in the same boat. What I do know is if you can get a Rx of Clonidine (not from your doctor) online you can use that to help with the withdrawals. The reason the withdrawals are so bad is it affects your blood pressure greatly. Clonidine is blood pressure med and it is given to those who are coming off of opioids. Depending on what your dosage of Dilaudid is; the Clonidine is very helpful - with the blood pressure under control you don't experience the extreme nausea and vomiting. Truly it helps a lot. Good luck

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Hello, Shai - You have said what every true chronic pain sufferer would like to say to all the arrogant i****s out there (lay people and doctors) who think "opiates are the devil" as stated so stupidly by "anyhony". (By the way, "anyhony", Shai didn't ask for advice on how to get off opiates. That would be like a diabetic asking for advice on how to stop taking insulin when their diabetes is out-of-control!) Perhaps if you're simply an addict who's on them for a high and want to get off them--perhaps then they are the enemy. But for those of us who suffer from true chronic pain, who struggle to live or at least survive some kind of life with constant, agonizing pain bombarding, stabbing, exploding within their body, opiates are a gift from God. They're not "fun;" they're a necessity. Shai said it all so well, really hitting the nail on the head. God bless you. I hope you are able to find a compassionate doctor who isn't a complete fool like the other docs in your life appear to be.

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Hi Beryl ,first I would like to say that there are evidently 2 different deb.......I'm know that some of these comments are NOT mine. This one you responded to may have been as I do believe that regular Dr's don't understand pain the way dr's specializing in pain management do.Regular Dr's don't want to prescribe pain meds and don't understand tolerance, dependence& addiction. I am changing my name so as not to be confused with another Deb. I will now be dc........As per this discussion, I believe that dilapidated is stronger than oxcy........ though I have never been prescribed it for long term pain. Only once w hen I broke my pelvis. ......I wish you all the best in managing your pain as I too have chronic all day pain and would not be able to function if I did not have my pain management dr.who prescribes pain meds for me. .....they are very strict and do keep a very close eye on me and all their patients. ........I am extremely grateful to them.

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