Watson 932 Opposed To Endocet 10 325 Mg (Page 6)
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Do any of the members of this forum have an opinion as to the effectiveness of Endocet v. Watson 932 equivelant?

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Thanks for your response.As I got further into the month I realized these don't work well at all! My husband thinks I'm crazy cause "it's all the same the same thing" according to him.

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I've been on and off generic percocet since 1996. My regular pharmacy made an error in printing a label, and put the wrong doctor's name on it. As a result, all my docs were on me like narcotic Gestapo, requiring urine drug tests at all of them. To prevent future problems, I now fill the oxy 10/325 (& nothing else) at the Mom & Pop pharmacy in the medical center he's in.

Amazingly, they use Endocet. After always getting Watson, Endocet was almost heavenly. Pain relief was more complete, and they last slightly longer. My occupational therapist has pain issues, I told him of better response to Endo, he tried it and absolutely agreed.

Unfortunately, for the past month they've stuck me with the weird A stuff that takes almost twice the dosage to do anything, and then not enough. I don't understand it. I'm familiar with a couple meds that supposedly had issues between NB & generic, most notably Cardizem/diltiazem, but I thought people were imaging things. Now, like the rest of you, I realize it's the FDA imagining generics & NB are equal AND that there is an adequate supply of Endocet when obviously there is not.

It does especially tick me off that I stay up to date on healthcare & meds so I got off high dose acetaminophen YEARS ago, but despite attempting to be proactive I'm getting kicked in the teeth because of the slow switchover by the docs & Big Pharma who weren't paying attention. FDA is doing a crappy job of regulating! If they require this much control they need to nationalize narcotics. Combining tight oversight with for-profit businesses is a recipe for screwing patients.

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Kim, Once I did get headaches too which I thought were caused by Endocet but now I take a combination of Fioricet with Percocet, 800 mg Neurontin, 350 mg Soma, Klonopin 0.5mg, Levoxyl & Clonodin 0.2mg with Exforge 5/160 along with rx grade vitamin supplements.
I have renal failure caused by too much NSAIDS/ Mobic and Lithium I were using for spinal abnormalities, cluster headaches, & overactive nerves. So my dosage of necessity is oxycodone 10/325 (BN) Percocet and never Hydrocodone anymore.
Generics that are not worth the time to make;
White oblong IP 204 by Amneal pharmaceuticals,
Round yellow 230 with Chinese C on back by Alvogen pharmaceuticals,
White oblong M 523 with 10/325 on back by Mallinkrot pharmaceuticals. I run from those placebo pills. And I too heard about the Endocet shortage this month from my local pharmacy near beginning of February about 11th. Anytime there is a shortage of any pill by request it means that they notoriously work the best! Watson 932 pills are hard to find and are upper echelon, but do give some people with GERD trouble.

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I've also taken a mixture of different manufacturers of percocet generic but this is the first time I've gotten ones made by Alvogen...they all help my pain but for some reason after taking these i get a bad headache. Have you ever noticed such a thing with a change in the maker? The only other time this happened was when i took the ones with no acetaminophen in them...those give me a horrid headache.

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Tnx, I so agree with you on the name brand - I can do great on one or two nb Percocet, and go for 6+ hours sometime, as compared to most generics, which I may get 3 or 4 hours of relief from, if I am lucky ! Endocet gives me the same results as nb - but who can afford nb? !! My local Mom & Pop pharmacy made a few calls for me this morning, and there is most definitely an Endo shortage at this time - looks like it will last until early to mid March.
You hit the nail on the head with the attitude of some pharmacists - most think we are 'Hop-Heads', just looking to get high. I would give anything for just one of them to experience even one, just one hour of the pain I go thru daily,... And then I'm sure they 'just might realize' why we need what we do need. Personally I would give anything to not have to take any of the narcotics that I do take, or,... I would give anything to see what just one hour of being 'pain free' is like !!
(I was injured in an on-the-job accident back in '92 - have had multiple cervical & lumbar spine surgeries, currently have a 4" plate in my neck, two 9"+ rods in my lower back,... Most of the surgeries failed - never really helped much, and I had some of the best NY Dr.'s perform them) !!
I recently had an extremely extensive exam by one of Emory Hospital/College's top MD's, and even he told me & Worker's Comp that the meds I take will be how the rest of my life will go. (getting off-topic here, sorry !).

Nonetheless, Tnx again - seems not many folk understand how a few simple inactive ingredients can change the effectiveness of a simple pill, go figure. And, how that small change can so adversely affect one's life. JG

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Rite Aide pharmacy Joe G they are about $120 for 90 pills without insurance. I always find mom & pops rx for at least half that with Endocet u just have to ask 1st. Some pharmacists r cool and some are real jerks about it. Endocet do have a better quality than most with least side effects depending on the inactive ingredients and combinations of other medications. I have had true Gerd for about 13 years with operations done on my esophagus plus sleep in a hospital bed so yeah I understand. I still desire to fill a script with nb Percs just way to expensive ($600 for 90 pills Walgreens).

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Been taking Endocet 10/325 for 10 yrs now after several failed spinal surgeries. If I take Watson brand, I'm sure to be needing Nexium within hours, & suffer some serious GERD ! Also, I do have much better pain relieving results with either nb Percocet or Endocet, as compared to any of the generic brands.
Yes, there is a difference in the inactive ingredients in all of them, from all the research I've done. Have not been able to get Endocet here in GA for 2 months now, and don't know what to do,.... Do I try going without my meds & wind up in the ER, or take a diff. generic & wind up in the ER anyway with some serious GERD issues ?!!

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Yellow 230 pills by Alvogen are worse I've ever had more pitiful than M523. This pill has similarity to a placebo wish I never filled my script with this crap! I'll stick with my Watson 932 forever if overall quality is an issue.

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I too notice a difference in generic companies. If their were no differences their would exist only one brand. The same people that disagree probably believe hydrocodone bitartrate is the same as hydrocodone HCL... but that's another topic. The Endocet 712 are better than most but have a high potential to give me a headache, the M 523 more so gives me the stomach cramps & have a very short half life, comparing to the Watson 932's are best I have had little to no unwanted side effects plus the have a more lasting affect than the M 523 by Mallinckrodt. What I beg is do anyone have a educated opinion about the yellow round 230 with a strange Chinese C on the back, manufactured by Alvogen. Have anyone an intelligent answer? I cannot find any reviews on the internet anywhere.

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Most of the differences you guys feel are psychological! I have been chronic pain management 10 years - tried most everything. There isn't enough of a difference to make a "major improvement" in your relief just because it's stamped watson or endo.... you should consider that you may need a medicine change if you are that incredibly sensitive - just sayin'...........

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For me personally the Watson 932 works much better than endocet 712....I can tell a BIG difference in my pain relief

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They are both supposed to contain 10mgs of Oxycodone and 325mgs of Acetaminophen, but since there can be fluctuations in the amount of the active ingredients in generics, as well as in the fillers used, how they work for anyone can be different.

While others may have gotten good or bad results from one of the other of them, the only way to find out how they work for you is to actually try it.

This is a narcotic pain reliever and may cause side effects, such as: nausea, dizziness, drowsiness and constipation.

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