Tramadol Shortage (Page 57)

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Does anyone know of a pharmacy with tramadol available? I tried ordering it but everyine keeps telling me its out of stock and not available until after the holidays. I run out of my rx today and can't wait until after the holidays so any help is appreciate it.

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If you're confused as to WHY I'm saying a site will increase in price with more customers, it's because the site starts low to attract customers. Once more buy, they increase it. Then tons more buy and they can jack up the price to match competitors. So it's not me saying "don't use MY site", and it's "too bad, so sad" for YOU as well,so be snotty, but you're paying for it to.

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Philanthropically "helping one another" is great...but legally and personally...it's a different story. I have been compelled to offer to send done of my stash to people when I see how bad they are suffering, but legally that is against the law. I have also been compelled to provide the contact info if my source but like I said before....my source does NOT want to be mentioned on these boards because they are full of undercovers. And if you are other states it is a controlled substance and accepting tramadol via the mail, you should be familiar with the laws of the state you are in because generally, a face to face consultation is required if it is a controlled substance. So putting your source out there and saying they are shipping to you in a controlled state, gives undercovers a motive to act like they are one of "us" for the sole purpose of getting the info to shut the source down. Them when you can't get your meds in a state that it is legal for the source to be sending to you...you are going to really be hurting. So philanthropically, I'm sure we all want to help. But putting the names and numbers of our sources out there is hurting them. Which speaks to the phrase "don't bite the hand that feeds you". My source came from years of using the online pharmacies and then receiving calls and using them. They came through for me when all the onlines shut down. I noticed two of my sources on the boards and now only one of them will respond because for some reason the other thinks I am the one putting his name up here. I am not the one that did it, but I don't blame him for being mad. Most sources really don't want you putting their names and numbers up anymore because, like I said, not everyone who complains of pain and withdrawals is really "one of us". So my way of "helping" is to let you know that sharing your source is not always helping. Sharing your troubles and ways to alleviate withdrawals is very helpful, atleast in my perspective. Just be smart...you never know who is on the other side of the conversation when you are online

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Why does my dr keep telling me that the pain will go away when I quit taking pain meds.

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Roselyn. Thanks for sharing that info. It's a scary thing knowing there are people out there pretending to be "one of us". I guess at times I allow my empathy overwhelm my decisions to help others as I live with degenerative disc. decease and sciatica, and so I don't stop and think that people could actually do that bec. I think of people needing help and so on. But, your advise is well appreciated and taken as I will be more careful from now on. Thanks again.

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It sux to be hooked on this stuff. It controls my whole life. I want off so bad but I cannot handle the withdrawal. Kids, work, school...best I can do is taper down and hope for the best. I cannot stress enough how important it is to have an emergency stash set aside. Even if you have to break the bank doing it, you will be glad you did. I have a strong feeling that sooner than later tramadol will be added to the federal Controlled Substance Act list as a schedule I, then we will all be screwed. I will be forced to get off them then and will be very happy to have my tramadol apocalypse supply that's for sure. I hate sounding unemphathetic and selfish when I warn about sharing sources but it is true that this is the way the fuzz find the prescribers and harass them to the point they have to change their information completely and no longer will speak to some customers. I was told directly from my source in an email. "I don't deal with people who put my information on the chat boards" and now even though I wasn't the one that did it...I lost a source. So I do cringe whenever I see my sources up here and when a person says "tell them I sent you"...well that just sux because I know they are gonna get dumped like I was. Atleast we know there is a group of us and we aren't alone in our struggles. I wish the best outcome for every person that has crossed this board at one time or another, even those that are hateful and accusatory....they didn't find this board by accident ...no one would come to this board unless they wanted support or were looking for sources(for themselves or for law enforcement). So those that chastise I feel the worst for because they are in complete denial and will probably wake up and find themselves in the same position we have all come to be in. Like I said, I wish the best to every person who has become a victim of this wonderful yet devastating drug.

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Roselyn, you're exactly right. You all may think its "selfish" and that you're only helping other people, but you're not. You're hurting yourself as well as everyone else. You don't plaster the name of a source like that on a public forum! It's extremely detrimental and not only because of the inevitable price increase, but for the source itself. The owner of that site doesn't want to be as well known as they now are. He's at risk of being shut down. So, think twice before you post something on a PUBLIC forum to "help". You don't know who these people are, and don't you think the legit people are going around spreading the name also? That's what happens to EVERY great source that's shut down in the past. People don't seem to understand that. So angikay, maybe you should rethink your comment. You're not helping ANYONE throwing around names of awesome sources. You know all of those solid sources that suddenly disappeared? Yeah, it was because of what you're doing- making a little-known source public. Thinking everyone here is just a tramadol user in need is not realistic.

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Ruby. Maybe if you'd actually read somethings someone's wrote, you'd retract some of your statements. I agreed with Roselyn.....!!!!!! We all make mistakes and I believe I shouldn't have name anyone. Quit being so quick to pass judgement! Obviously you have anger issues otherwise you would have let this long overdue s*** go!!!! Read people's statements next time before snipping off.

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Ruby 1124... that's where I took notice n appologized. Stop beating a dead horse n move on already. You're acting as though I solely named all these "awesome" sources. Yes, I did some, but not I alone. Regardless, these people were trying to help but I'm pretty sure everyone get's the point loud n clear. Let it go.

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Angikay,you're the one "beating a dead horse" spouting off about all of this like I burned your house down or something. You insulted me, I retorted with a logical comment. Let it go. And by the way, did I single you out at all as being the person who told people about ANY source?? You weren't even the one who posted it in the first place.

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Roselyn, some of us are in pain and use online pharmacies because of no insurance. We get a prescription, we fill out questinaires and in many cases also speak to the doctors. So I don't worry about undercover agents trying to get me. If the govt decides it doesn't like the way these places operate, they will go after the olps or the drs, not the customers. I take my six pills a day, and am mostly pain free, but when the six a day doesn't work I add some ibuprofen. The point is to get the pain to a manageable level. Don't add paranoia to the mix. I have ordered from overseas and inwent thru the same protocal--if my package had been stopped, the pharmacy would have dealt with it because I had a prescription. I imagine the feds have enough to do going after people selling herion on the silk road. Why would they bother people who have a prescription?

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Ruby, how did I insult you? First off you were being rude about the way you were talking and I felt like since you did bring my name into being one of those people who basically screw things up for everyone else made me look bad. I had every right to say something to you about that. I took major offence by that! I am usually a very nice/polite person as most of the people on this forum would hopefully tell you, but you went overboard with your banter. I am mature though and as of right now I will NOT say anything else about it. It would be nice if we could all just get along.

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Angikay,I am not holding any kind of grudge about this. And I never said YOU personally were spreading the name. I was simply referring to your remark, and when I said "you" when referring to spreading the name around, I was talking to the people who do post names of sources on several public forums. Perhaps what I wrote was unclear, but if you were one of the people who did that, I wouldn't know it anyway. I was speaking to anyone in general.

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Ruby. Thanks for clearing that with me. I really appreciate it and I apologize for being defensive. I took it the wrong way.

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UGG! I am completely frustrated with some peeps here...and really theyve hit a nerve with me. Ive been a member of this forum for a very long time. This forum has been a source of light for me and....Ive met great friends who are thoughtful and supportive like ANG and Tracy. I joined this forum for support to seek out help in locating a new reliable and reputable source for locating a new pharmacy since the state to state laws have changed and some states have changed tramadol to a controlled substance. Most of you know me, from here and know my story that Im one of the WORKING UNLUCKY FEW THAT STILL CANT AFFORD HEALTH INSURANCE, and are forced into buying ALL MY MEDS from online pharmacies. Many people who are loyal and frequent members post friendly info here on this forum about new pharmacies, or reliable pharmacies that we have had experiences with. Its word of mouth...and being that MOST of US know one another here we respect the opinion of those who have ordered from these pharmacies. When I read posts from people saying NOT to give away or post the name of certain pharmacies because of the risk of the site uping their prices sends me thru the roof. 1st of all most of us cant give out our personal emails here with out decoding, or it would be alot easier to keep it private...2nd...I hardly feel that the few people from this fourm who have ordered from "this" pharmacy will send their orders over the edge to raise the prices. THIS OF COURSE IS JUST MY OPINION....but I felt the need to speak up in support of a few of my friends that DO frequent the site. Once again I feel this forum is for support and knowledge...questions...and as so just as in the past for the FRIENDS that have helped me...I will continued to post certain sites just as my friends have, if I have had any experience with them to pass it forward so to speak and help another out....thats what we do here.

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Notcharlotte- I strongly advise you to read the laws of your state in particularly. If the state holds that it is a controlled substance, then generally a face to face consultation is required. If tramadol is placed on the list of Federal controlled substances then it will become a federal offense to obtain the drug without a face to face consultation. If you are in a state that the face to face consultation is not required, then you are fine. No problems at all. However, there are several posts on here that suggest that there are sources that will ship to people in states that tramadol is controlled. If they do, then they are acting contrary to the laws of that state and posting them on a public forum sets them up to be investigated. Then it doesn't matter if you are acting within the laws if your state, because you no longer have a source. That is why I warn against posting your source. Even if there is nothing eluding to a source shipping to a controlled state, they will undoubtedly be investigated and if found to be breaking the law, they will be shut down. At the least, they will be investigated and harassed. No one wants that for our sources. If you are receiving packages from overseas, there are several legal issues that can come up but the main thing to remember is that the United States has no recourse against a foreign country unless they have some kind of treaty with the country. Still then, they will not waste their time and money prosecuting persons in a foreign country. They will focus on the person initiating and funding the transaction. There is no "privacy" when the package goes through customs. They can open your package and look at the contents. Due to the small scale nature of your ordering, it is likely that they would just confiscate the package and send you a note telling you that due to the nature of the contents they would like you to come and pick the package up at customs. Most people of course don't go pick it up and it is destroyed. However if the drug were to become a controlled substance on the FCS list, you could anticipate greater response. The bottom line is you should be aware of the laws and what you are doing because ignorance of the law is no defense. I speak from a personal sense in saying that I know the laws in my state and fully educated on telemedicine practices and questionnaires as sufficient means of obtaining prescriptions. I continue to use them as a means of obtaining my medications. However, I will not compromise or place my source at risk by plastering their info on a public forum. No matter how legitimate they are, it still puts them at risk for harassment and investigation and inevitable delay in receipt of my medication. So I apologize if I made you feel paranoid about the legalities you personally may face, my intention is only to make you recognize that you should know the laws of the state you are in and think very carefully about disclosing your sources and your personal involvement with them on a public forum. I doubt this site will allow me to post a website address so I will try on another post. It is a very informative site regarding telemedicine on a federal level. If you would like to disclose your state I can research the telemedicine laws for you particular to your state.

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This is the site that can give you information on the telemedicine laws at a federal level
http://www.telehealthresourcecenter.org/legal-regulatory

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Ok guys as stated many times before we are all in the same situation. So how do we talk about these things among ourselves and not let everyone know our business? If anyone has any ideas please let me know. I do look to many people in here as my friends and would not want to see anything happen to anyone. Any ideas please let me know.

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Kym. I look up to people on here too and see them as friends at this point. It's almost impossible to be very slick... lol! Maybe we should start emailing specific friends? That's possible. That was no one gets pissed off anymore. But it's a sucky situation for sure.

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Its ok, angikay. I probably would've taken offense also. Looking back at my post, it sounded like I was blaming you, but I really wasn't. I'm sorry for sounding rude :)

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Ruby... thank you.

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