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hello Says:
 
my freind has an addiction to oxycontin, and now she has dilaudid 4 mg, and she plans on taking it too, b/c one of her freinds said that its like oxycontin and that she would get the same effect. does anyone no if its safe to do so?

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Jesse Says:
 
Chronic Pain, I thank you for your understanding. I realize that recreational users do, to some effect, prevent people from easily obtaining the medicines they need. I believe that it is more so the very nature of the drugs themselves that are the true cause of this unfortunate reality. If I were a doctor, I would not hand these drugs out lightly.

"life aint a rehersal and u only get one shot at this crazy thing we call life." Words of wisdom my friend. Reminds me of the movie Source Code. I'm going to attach a link to my favorite part of the movie, which I feel portrays what you are saying flawlessly. **DO NOT WATCH IF YOU HAVE NOT SEEN THE MOVIE! SPOILER!**

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hdO21NCLUw

I appreciate your compliment about me being wise beyond my years, if only you were right. Sometimes I feel as though I am "growing backwards with time". The older I get, the less I seem to understand.

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chronic pain Says:
 
Thats why i love these forums with the real world knowledge they can provide with the right ppl providing there yrs of experience and wisdom. if i read correctly u are only 19 jesse?? u sound wise beyound your yrs. Thanks for clearing up my mishap there with the acetaminophin being a potentiater i was incorrectly informed by a friend.

And btw, i have no problem with recreational users even if it adds to the problem of getting legit scripts. it is what it is, and u cant get upset bout somethin out of ur control so be safe and most of all have fun while u can boys and girls life aint a rehersal and u only get one shot at this crazy thing we call life =) peace all

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Jesse Says:
 
LDJP, to answer your second question I would say that the solution you get after performing a CWE may remedy your ingestion problem.

Also, it is unwise to snort anything with acetaminophen. It gets stuck in your nasal cavities and can cause problems.

Snorting opiates all comes down to a thing called bio availability. Bio availability is a term used to describe how much of the drug is actually being processed and readily used in your body. Each opiate has a different bio availability for every method of ingestion. For instance, the bio availability of Hydrocodone intranasally is extremely low. Therefor it would be counter-intuitive to snort Hydrocodone. Other opiates are different though. Oxycodone being an example.

I do not know if the amount and frequency of your use is too much or not, but if it is under doctor supervision then you will most likely be okay. They have a much more complicated system that they use and it generally works . If a CWE does not fix your problem with ingestion, you may want to ask your doctor if there is another form of the drug available. I know that there is a liquid form of hydrocodone.

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Jesse Says:
 
You are not a bad person for obtaining drugs off the street even if you did not have chronic pain. We are all forced to live in this world, we have no choice and sometimes getting by is not too easy. Not all pain is physical.

{edited for safety}

Acetaminophen is NOT an opiate potentiator btw. In fact, it is the exact opposite. Acetaminophen and opiates are both processed by the liver. When taken together they compete with each other to be metabolized. Because of this, acetaminophen hinders the effects of opiates slightly. There are many opiate potentiators. The most common being Diphenhydramines (benadryl), Grapefruit juice, Benzodiazepines (Xanax, Valium), Cimetedine (Acid reflux medicine) and Promethazine (Antihistamine). I personally do not care for these much... I do not like to mix drugs. However, Promethazine is excellent. It is a non narcotic so you do not have to worry about any bad interactions. It helps with nausea, the "itches", and it potentiates opiates noticeably.

I hope this helps you guys. You should perform a CWE if you are taking more than 1500 - 2000 mg of acetaminophen in one dose, or if you are taking these meds daily which I assume most of you are for pain.

I am sorry if my recreational use offends those of you who actually need to take them for pain. I cannot even comprehend the amount of pain and distress these situation must cause you; you all have my full empathy.

The world of opiates can be a positive one if used correctly. They are practical, safe, and above all therapeutic.

For those of you who ARE taking opiates recreationally, please be careful for it is a very slippery slope. There are many rules that will guarantee a safe and addiction free flight. Never take opiates consecutively and never re-dose. Only take them once a week and take regular breaks, about a month long, to keep the tolerance at bay. There are no rules for psychological addiction. When you start feeling like you need opiates more and more it is time to quit. Only you can determine this.

If anyone has any questions or concerns about the CWE or anything relating to opiates you may E-mail me at {edited for privacy}

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LDJP Says:
 
I take three 325's a day if even that. I am prescribed both pills and I am supposed to take some one week and one the next. Is that to much? How do you do it? Also, I have a hard time swallowing these pills because they are big. Is there any other way I can take them. I refuse to snort because I am scared of dying!! So do you know any other way??

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chronic pain Says:
 
the tylenol helps potentiate the other opiate....but if u are using more then the safe intake of tylenol u have to take it out to save ur liver. 3 to 4000mgs of tylenol will put ur liver into toxicity. {edited for safety} is the proccess, search it on the net, but be very carefull

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chronic pain Says:
 
well said jesse....we are all here...or most of us anyway...to gather real world info and experiance which cannot be deplicated. and in fact it is tottally possible for one to be a recreational safe user if one has the will power and better judgment to keep it at that....which i commend u on that cuz many dont. Me myself am always lookin for a better way to battle my chronic pain that has followed me for 15 yrs, and i have a tolerance, this does not make me a bad person even if i am forced to hit the street for what i need cuz of the politics surrounding my drug of choice


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LDJP Says:
 
Hey whatis up with the tylenol in the pills? I use Oxy IR 30 and Percocet for my chronic back pain. I am used to both now. I also have bad menstral cycles so I am prescribed them for that as well but I read you took out the tylenol. What is up with that? How do you do that?

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Jesse Says:
 
Are you trying to yell, Breeia? Please use the caps lock button responsibly. How is using the term "recreational opiate user" and insult? It is what I am, I do not care if that insults you. If you didn't have such a closed minded agenda you would realize that I am not hurting myself by using opiates. I am not addicted in any way. In fact I am so safe that I extract the acetaminophen from what I am ingesting.

Furthermore I am pretty sure you are in the wrong thread. The original poster was asking if his friend could snort Hydromorphone. I answered his question, and then offered a retort to the misinformation about opiates found within the replies.

I enjoyed your attempts to be-little me. You act as if a 19 year old is incapable of possessing anything worth hearing.

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BREEIA Says:
 
WHAT!! IT IS YOU LITTLE JESSSE THAT IS OH SO IGNORANT! EVEN THE TERM YOU USED,"I AM A RECREATIONAL OPIATE USER" IS SUCH AN INSULT TO ALL OF US WHO ARE FORCED TO LIVE EACH&EVERY DAY IN TRUE REAL PAIN WHICH I DO HOPE NEVER HAPPENS TO YOU B/C EVEN THOUGH YOUR TRYING SO HARD TO BE ALL GROWN UP AND IMPART YOUR OH SO LITTLE WISDOM ON US,HONEY YOUR ONLY HURTING YOURSELF BY THE USE OF THESE OPIATE DRUGS FOR "FUN" NOW IF LATER ON YOU TRUELY NEED THEM THEY WILL NOT HELP YOU!! EVEN W/THE STATED "BREAKS" B/C PEOPLE W/ REAL PAIN CAN'T TAKE BREAKS...DON'T THINK THIS IS THE PLACE FOR YOUR SELF BELIEVED "WISDOM" COME BACK WHEN YOU'VE BEEN THROUGH THE HELL THAT MOST OF US HAVE..........

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BREEIA Says:
 
HEY I FEEL FOR YOU OPIATEMUS MAXIMUS. HAVE YOU BEEN ABLE TO SEE A GASTROENTEROLOGIST? I HAVE LIVED WITH CROHNS DISEASE FOR MOST OF MY LIFE,THEY HAVE GREAT WEB SITES THAT CAN HELP SORT OUT ALL YOUR SYMPTOMS FOR MANY PAINFUL TUMMY TROUBLES SO MAYBE THAT WILL HELP AND JUST FROM MY OWN EXPIERENCE,I CAN'T BELIEVE THEY HAVE YOU ON VICO THATS SO HARD ON THE GUT,CAN CAUSE MORE THEN HELP. I NOW AM ON THE FENTYL PATCH B/C IT DOESN'T ENTER THE BODY&G.I. TRACT ITS THE 1ST MED IN 40YRS. NOT TO UPSET MY SYSTEM....HOPE YOU GET THE HELP YOU NEED-DON'T GIVE UP! I KNOW ITS HARD,IT TOOK 2YRS. TO FIND MY DISEASE,I SAW MANY DRS. B/C MY PARENTS REFUSED TO GIVE UP(I WAS ONLY 9)WE ENDED UP IN ANOTHER STATE(THE GREAT VT. FLETCHER ALLEN MED. CENTER)WHERE I FINIALLY GOT THE RIGHT HELP........MY PRAYERS ARE WITH YOU AND ALL WHO ARE IN TRUE PAIN

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chronic pain Says:
 
i just found out that my right hip joint is worn out and needs replacement and that i have colin cancer......and yet i still have to hit the street and spend every last dollar on what works best for me....buyin them of of ppl who beat the system and dont even need the f***in things...makes me sick


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chronic pain Says:
 
No doubt....some docs are quick to judge....so they will perscribe u somethin to help u come off ur "binge"
Im in the same boat. Ive been in chronic pain for half my living yrs, im 31 now, and have self medicated with just about everything out there and i have a tolorence. oxys work the best for me cuz they dont have the downer to them and alow to to be able to still work hard and be productive. They are so abused that i cant get any more than a few percs at a time then he sribed me dilaudas. two 40's a day of oxy would keep me happy but i have to buy them off the street so i know exactly where ure coming from man

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opiatemus maximus Says:
 
try needing them for a legit stomach problem that cannot be identified then not being able to get em prescribed. my docs all refuse to give me anything besides vicoden for my stomach. so in pain i am forced to score these things like a damn criminal and usually spend all my extra money on them. every time i try to get clean i usually go a few days before im in the hospital in excrutiating pain. nine days the last time. in the hospital they give me 4 mg dilaudid injections and vicoden and that works for some reason tho without being able to put thier finger on my stomach problem they will not prescribe anything stonger than vicoden and sometimes dont wanna give me them. sometimes i think the only reason they wont is because im covered in tattoos. they actually drug test you in michigan before they can ggive you any pain meds i pass everytime. its gotta be tha tattoos, wat you guys think?

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Jesse Says:
 
I am 19 years old and I am a recreational user of opiates, however, I have never used heroin. The problem with a lot of these comments is the ignorance they preach. I have been using opiates for about 3 years now and I am in no way an addict. You CAN use opiates safely, I promise. A good rule of thumb is to not take more than once a week. If you stick to that, you will never get addicted. It is also smart to take significant breaks (a month maybe) every now and then so that your tolerance doesn't build as fast. Opiates are very addicting so it is important to not deter from this formula. {edited for safety}

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chronic pain Says:
 
amen...the haters need to back off and let users deal with this lil thing "WE" call life. peace all


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Help your friend Says:
 
Please help your friend. My sister lost her first love and fiance by snorting oxy's. It caused him to have a brain aneurysm and he layed in a coma in ICU for 2 weeks then he passed. He wasn't a user, his so called friends convinced him to do it then left him to die.

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whattheheck Says:
 
NEVER EVER WOULD I SNORT OR SHOOT ANYTHING!!! IM THE ONE WHO POSTED ABOUT ABUSE AND HOW TAKING THEM AS PRESCRIBED WOULD BE BEST!!! PLEASE FOR YOURSELVES DON'T HARM YOURSELVES, I DON'T KNOW HOW THIS GOT LINKED TO ME AS I POSTED AGAINST IT!!! THAT'S PROBABLY IT,PPL DIDN'T LIKE MY COMMENTS... SORRY BUT I HAVE A RIGHT TO MY OPINION, NOT TO JUDGE JUST BE HONEST

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Donna Says:
 
You drug addict abusers need go on and stick with your street drugs, your hurting innocent legitimate pain patients from getting their prescription meds. You should be ashamed of yourselves. You don't have real pain. So if the high your looking for, just do your own illegal drugs! Your horrible people for the problems you are creating. Selfishness is not acceptable!

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William Says:
 
I have been on subs for the last two years due to constantly feeling depressed.... Same situation as every addict. I live in the Northeast where herion rules the street. I am on such a lower dose now I'm looking forward to being free. I dont care what kind of excuse you have for taking OPs, Opana, Roxi, hydro, or any opioid. Ask yourselves why do people start to take it via injection? When the snorting is not enough. Just like eating them sucked also... Addiction is terrible it makes you lose yourself. To those who can do them socially more power to ya people like me just have an addictive personality. I would of done every painkiller on the market back then, luckily I never tried Herion and I'm grateful. I would not be here today if I had chosen that route. If you want to be clean check out subutex or suboxone. I would be just like some of you or worse dead.

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