Snorting Dilaudid (Page 6)

my freind has an addiction to oxycontin, and now she has dilaudid 4 mg, and she plans on taking it too, b/c one of her freinds said that its like oxycontin and that she would get the same effect. does anyone no if its safe to do so?

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My husband was on that s*** for a long time then a doctor gave it to him and guess what??? it ruined our very wounderful marriage and now I'm scared every day that our 4 year old and 1 year old will grow up with out there daddy be cause it only takes one time to do it again an it can f***ing kill him! So yes putting a needle in ur arm is deadly and so is snorting it in to ur head!

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AMY,WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY"MY HUSBAND WAS ON DILAUDID FOR A LONG TIME THEN THE DR. GAVE IT TO HIM?" DO YOU THINK B/C A DR. LATER GAVE IT TO HIM LEGALLY THATS WHY YOUR "WONDERFUL" MARRIAGE IS IN THE TANK? YOU BETTER RE-THINK THAT ONE CUZ IF HE WAS OUT GETTING THIS MED. OR ANY OTHER DRUG FROM GOD KNOWS WHERE,HONEY,YOU ALREADY HAD MAJOR PROBLEMS YOU JUST DIDN'T WANT TO SEE THEM!! WAKE UP,GET UP, TAKE THOSE KIDS AND LEAVE.

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Sorry to bother u all but i'm worried about my teens friend. I thought I overheard her saying that her cousin was injecting 2 4mg pills of dilaudid. I know I'm nieve but how the heck is that possible? how can u inject pills thru an IV? I had it thru an IV 5 yrs ago after surgery but not using a pill. Is it even possible w/ a pill? or am I nuts?!

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Were all dying yolo

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i agree with comment six dont talk about something like u understand it when u have no personal experience with it

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what is kraton?

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Kratom is a natural painkiller. Google it for tons of info. Where the trees grow, leaves are chewed. It can be purchased online in powder or liquid form - can be brewed as tea, put into capsules, mixed with apple sauce or something - or just 'toss n wash'. It's said to make an addict's detox/withdrawal less painful - as it adheres to the same receptacles in the brain that opiates do. Some call it a natural high. It's addictive also (though debatably less so than opiates). Anyway - google for more info. I'm not guaranteeing my info is 100% accurate, and it's by no means comprehensive.

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ACTUALLY JESSE YOUR WRONG.THE PEOPLE WHO ARE GETTING THEIR HANDS ON CONTROLLED MEDS. BY ANY MEANS ARE INFACT MAKING IT DIFFICULT ON THOSE OF US WHO NEED IT TO HAVE ANY KIND OF QUALITY OF LIFE.WHERE I LIVE,EVEN WITH IT BEING A SMALL TOWN OUR HOSPITAL HAS MADE ALL OF ITS DRS. STOP PRESCRIBING ANY CONTROLLEDS BY THE END OF THIS YEAR!YOU EITHER HAVE TO BE WEANED OFF OR SENT TO A PAIN CLINIC/DR. WHICH IS JUST BRILLIANT WHEN YOU HAVE ALOT OF SENIORS/DISSABLED FOLKS BUT ONLY 2 PAIN MNGT. DRS. WITHIN THE COUNTY.AFTER THAT ITS DRIVE2,3,4 EVEN5HOURS!!

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You seem like the most approachable out of all of these posts so here it goes, pls go easy on me, this is hard for me to discuss. I am on Dilaudid for pain mgmt., I am terminal, I have 1-3 years so who knows but it is definitely not curable so I am at the end of the road for treatment and have chosen palliative care, not a candidate for hospice yet, thank goodness. I have TERRIBLE bone pain that is the worst, I have other pain, it's in my stomach, it's everywhere but the spine and overall bone pain is at times unbearable. My doctor is very helpful, have plenty of dilaudid but I am also frequently hospitalized for extreme bouts of pain. The pill is nowhere close to the pill so I do also snort the pills but I don't know what is up with me and hoping you or someone else can help b/c prior to becoming ill (which has gone on for 10 years, just the last 4 needing schedule II meds) I never used any drugs recreationally and would have NEVER thought I would be doing what I am doing now. Only problem I have is that I do not seem to get ANY relief or reaction from snorting, doesn't hit me faster or seem to touch me at all so I can't help but wonder if I am doing something wrong! I crush them up really fine (they are easy to crush) and try like crazy to make those thin lines (any advice on that would be helpful as well, lol) and snort away. I have gone to 16 mgs and don't seem to get much in the way of anything, not hyper, not tired, still in pain and pretty much 100% there and this is a solid dose based on my history. Took for the first time with oral MS Contin and that seemed to make all of the difference but, to me, that's a lot of meds when I read much heavier users getting relief on lower doses, etc. I have been told that making smaller lines (again advice here please too!) and taking 3-5 min. b/w lines works better, I don't know I do know I'm at my wits end. I have plenty of meds and alternatives but this is my main breakthrough med so I really need some help. I'm not worried about addiction and neither is my doctor for the obvious reasons. The other thing is, I have little to no w/d when I don't take, I have NEVER suffered a w/d that lasted for more than a day which consisted of sweating and feeling very hot and one 4 mg dose stopped it and I was pretty much good. Any advice would be so GREATLY appreciated. I don't need any negative comments, I don't judge others, I used to until I became ill and I know that terrible pain does make people behave differently than usual and until you've walked a mile...If you are recreational and are not hurting anyone, well honestly I feel a little sad for you b/c I miss my life before all of this and would love to go back but that is not my fate so PLEASE, I really need advice. Is there something I am doing wrong? Thanks in advance for your assistance and I wish you all less pain.

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Forgot to add that I can't tolerate Fentanyl at all, already have MS Contin and so much else but as far as pain meds go, this is pretty much all I can take. Oxycontin is VERY expensive and I just can't afford and also had a pretty nasty reaction so for those that want to suggest other meds, been there and done them, lol. Have to have a sense of humor I find to get through this. Thanks again, just felt this was important info. I left out. Take care!

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Hi, I did this out of desperation, switched to Dilaudid oral after being on IR Morphine and an IV Dilaudid pump in the hospital and thought since it worked so well in the hospital it would be great at home. Boy was I wrong, the Pill does not come close to the injection, either IV or IM, like no relief AT ALL and apparently that is very common so I don't know why they even put me on it. Meanwhile what do I do, doctor wants me to give it more time to work but I've been sick a long time and have NEVER experienced anything like this. I feel like I should just stick with Advil, lol! It's really not funny b/c I'm suffering and not a lot of fun to be around. My oncologist told me this is not unique to me, oral Dilaudid has very low availability and his nurse whom I've known now for almost 3 years actually took me aside and asked me if I had my script with me, which I did. She showed me to put (4) 4 mg pills into a straw, she crushed them with her stapler and then put under her heel (it was not a thin heel), point of this is she poured it on the shelf in the bathroom stall that you can put your purse on and showed me how to inhale the powder with the part of the straw that she cut off! I was freaking out, felt like I was going to be on that show Intervention, lol! She put the powder in lines with a business card and told me to wait a few minutes in b/w lines and come and see her. I did it but it felt SOOOOOO wrong. Worst part of all of this, it had zero affect on me so is there something wrong with me? She told me NOT to tell my PM doctor which I won't of course, she also told me to try at home, I might need a higher dose due to my long-term use. It must have done something b/c I didn't feel like I wanted to kill myself, not joking either, but that was about it. When I went to leave, my oncologist said "I hope Brandy got you taken care of hon". Now I don't know what to do or what to think, is this normal practice? Even if a higher dose were to work this is not what I want to be doing, let's just say I would be a terrible cocaine addict, haha! I know this is serious, I really do, I just handle stress with humor, I couldn't make the lines, it burned my nose, this isn't exactly convenient. What do I do at my son's soccer game, excuse myself and do this? I can't possibly do this on a regular basis nor do I want to. I know she only meant well, the pain can be crippling at times. What should I do, I DON'T want to take any Oxy anything and that's what they keep pushing as the holy grail and I just have heard too many horrible things about it, so addictive, personality changes, expensive, etc. Is there any dose of Dilaudid that would work orally, I am allergic to Fentanyl and I am too tolerant to morphine already so is that really all that's left for me? I don't have more than a year left and I don't want to be in pain but I also don't want to lose what time I have left. Oxy is not the drug for me and I don't wan't to do IV Dilaudid at home - they offered this as an option but I'll be so out of it. Am I being unreasonable? I'm just not ready at all. Any advice would be helpful. Also, is it me or is it weird that nurse is teaching this? Just very tired on hurting... Thanks to all that can AND do take the time to help me.

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Dilaudid is highly addictive. My mother was a dilaudid junkie. She started in her 20s and was dead at 38. She was a beautiful person who eventually ended up selling her ass on the streets in order to get high. Drug dependency can ruin lives, not only of the person abusing but all of the people who are close to that person. If your friend is taking this drug because of severe pain I understand but I would be careful in order to not get addicted. My husband is someone who has to take oxycontin for pain relief but strict drug regulations in the state I live in make it difficult for him to abuse unless he is wanting to run out before his next doctor visit. Just remember when you are playing with fire you may get burned.

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Are you referring to the girl "with a friend"..., your post follows mine but didn't seem to apply. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks!

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Sorry, I have only taken my prescribed dose, never gotten high and have never taken, in any form, any Oxy drug but everyone on here is right, all of these meds are highly addictive and if she is snorting to get high than yes it is dangerous b/c she will keep needing more and more to achieve a high as her tolerance will escalate but the amount of the drug that will suppress her respirations will likely be much lower than what she will need to get high. I lost a family member to an oxycontin addiction which is why I will not take it under any circumstances and I am terminal. I can basically get whatever I need or want but I have time left and still so much to do and wasting it getting high doesn't appeal to me. Please tell her to be careful, if you can stop her, which I doubt you can, stop her b/c it will only lead to a bad place that she will struggle with for the rest of her life. There must be some underlying reason she is doing this, is she hiding from something. Usually there is something painful in one's life that leads down this road, in my family this person lost custody of her children and she couldn't cope with the loss. The other reason is it is prescribed and some people just become addicted. When I was told I was terminal, I must admit, there have been times when I've taken meds when not in physical pain but more of an unbearable anxiety. I am glad I talked to my doctor about my fear, he was very gracious and added something for my anxiety and now I am more in the acceptance stage. If I can help someone else now that makes me feel good and it helps pass the time b/c I am becoming less and less mobile. I wish I could make your friend understand how painful it is when you truly need this medication and because of her abuse, it will not work for her when she needs it the most. I now require very high doses of narcotics and the only reason I get them is because I am terminal but before that I suffered terribly because I was careless with my tolerance. I used my meds without discipline and I paid a huge price. You may just need to let your friend go for a while, no matter what you do or say, the truth is she is the only one that can make the decision to stop or get help to stop, until then you need to step back. I know it sounds harsh but I've been there and it was the best advice I was given, I just wish I had taken it earlier than I did. Good luck.

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BRYNN,1ST. LET ME SAY HOW SORRY IAM FOR YOUR PAIN. I'M NOT TERMINAL BUT HAVE BEEN SICK SINCE AGE 8,SO THATS OVER 40YRS. I WOULD LIKE TO HELP BUT I'M A BIT CONFUSSED,CUZ YOU STARTED OUT SAYING THE ONLY THING THAT WORKS FOR YOU IS IV DILAUDID BUT END UP SAYING YOU DON'T WANT TO BE ON IT? MAYBE SOMEONE CAN HELP IF YOU JUST EXPLAIN A LITTLE BETTER,OR LIKE WHY YOU HAVE SUCH AN ADVERSION TO OXY(WHATEVER KIND YOU DIDN'T SAY)B/C YOU CLAIM THATS WHAT DRS. SAY WORKS BEST FOR YOUR CONDITION? I JUST CAN'T IMAGINE WHAT NURSE WOULD DO WHAT THAT ONE DID! HONESTLY,SHE IS NOTHING MORE THAN AN UNCONSCIONABLE ADDICT OR ELSE SHE WOULDN'T EVEN KNOW HOW LET ALONE SHOW A PT. HOW TO DO THAT! REALLY,HON SHE'S NOT TRYING TO HELP YOU&I WOULD TURN HER IN! I MEAN WHATS NEXT SHOWING A 15YR. OLD PT. THE SAME THING?YOU OK W/THAT? B/C IT WILL HAPPEN,MAYBE NOT THIS WEEK OR THIS MONTH BUT EVENTUALLY SHE WILL B/C SHE HAS NO CONSCIENCE NOT UNLIKE MANY ADDICTS. NOW,WHAT MIGHT HELP YOU (MAYBE YOU USE IT ALREADY B/C I DON'T KNOW)BUT IS SOMETHING TO HELP YOU RELAX SO THE MEDS. CAN WORK BETTER. I USE VALIUM AT TIMES,LIKE BETWEEN DOSAGES OF PAIN MEDS. OR TO HELP ME SLEEP THREW THE NIGHT. ALSO WHEN I WENT TO A TOP PAIN MGT. CENTER IN VT. THEY SAID TO TRY A "PAIN MED. VACATION" SOUNDS WEIRD I KNOW BUT ALL IT MEANS IS TO TRY DIFFERENT PAIN MEDS.(THAT HAVE WORKED FOR YOU BEFORE)AND SWITCH THEM EVERY COUPLE MONTHS,HAT WAY THEY STAY MORE EFFECTIVE. HOPE THIS HELPS! TAKE CARE........YOU ARE IN MY PRAYERS

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Thanks for your response. First I don't think I was very clear on my medications, sorry about that. I am prescribed oral Dilaudid, IR Morphine and Xanax. I have had to be hospitalized a lot this year and in the hospital they give me a constant Dilaudid drip and injections if it's not enough and what I was trying to say was the pill is SO much weaker than the IV drug, I did tell my doctor that I wasn't getting enough relief and on top of that, it wasn't lasting very long. Plus, just from what I've heard from others in my support group, they think I should be on something stronger and long-acting and not having to take all of these shorter acting meds around the clock. I am at the point in my illness in that I hurt 24/7, it's in my bones and my life at times revolves around not letting my pain get out of control. I took Percocets about 2 years ago as part of my pain regimen and I could not tolerate it, it made my anxiety feel much worse, I don't know why but I know it did. The doctors just say everybody reacts differently to different medications. I have not tried Oxycontin, I have made a point to stay away from this drug because I have personally see people get addicted pretty much right away and it made me nervous. People always told me to stay away from it, that I would regret it, etc. But the truth of the matter is I am terminal so I have to rethink I suppose, is this medicine better on pain that Dilaudid? I don't know, the other thing is I have virtually no RX insurance so everything they want to try me on, I can't afford, pretty sad isn't it. The doctor did raise my Dilaudid dose and increased the number of times I can take it as well and I think it is helping much more. As far as what the nurse did, I asked one of my best friends who is a nurse and she reacted the way you did, she told me I HAVE to report her and now I understand the seriousness of what she did. She said it's one thing to suggest something subtly but what and how she did it speaks to a lot of bad things. My friend asked me, "don't you wonder how she knew what to do with your medication"? Mind you this was not my pain doctor nurse but my Oncologist's nurse, I just want to be clear and this will be very hard for me to do as she has seen me through a lot and has been very supportive so I feel very conflicted. I don't know how I am going to sleep with having to deal with this tomorrow. I might very well cost this nurse her job, it just feels terrible but at the same time I am just starting to understand that she was teaching me something very dangerous and that is not at all medically appropriate use of this strong painkiller. I hope you read this tonight and respond again because I would like your opinion again, my friend says I need to tell the doctor himself AND know the medications I am on, what do you think would be good to try. I am pretty desperate for relief. Again remember my PM doctor did increase my dose of Dilaudid and shortened the intervals that I needed to wait to take it and asked me to give it 5 days and to stay on top of my pain, i.e., take it whether or not I hurt. They say when it gets much worse, they will make home care available to me and my husband will be able to give my the IV medications into my PICC line. I don't want to do this now b/c I will be out of it and I just don't feel like I'm there yet. I can manage the pain right now and I am still productive. Thanks again for your advice, seems like this nurse did something really wrong - my nurse friend said that doing the medication that way could actually kill me, that it's very dangerous. Anyway, I hope you write again soon and thank you for your prayers, I could use them. You take care of yourself too. God Blessl

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HEY BRYNN,
I'M SO GLAD YOU READ MY EMAIL.I WAS REALLY SCARED YOU MIGHT BE OFFENDED BY MY BRINGING UP THE NURSE,BUT I'AM JUST A REALLY HONEST PERSON AND I DO FRANKLY BELIEVE SHE WILL GET A YOUNGER PT. AND END UP EITHER GETTING THEM ADDICTED RIGHT AWAY OR END UP KILLING THEM. EVEN THOUGH I DON'T KNOW YOU WELL, I CAN TELL BY YOUR COMPASSION THIS WOULD EAT AWAY AT YOU THINKING WOULD A,SHOULD A,COULD A,DONE SOMETHING.OK YOU SAID YOU HAVE LITTLE TO NO INSURANCE&SOME PILLS ARE EXPENSIVE,HONEY I'VE BEEN THERE TOO.WHAT I DID WAS CALL THE BRAND NAME(SO INSTEAD OF OXYCODONES MAKERS I CALLED THE MAKERS OF PERCOCET-JUST AN EXAMPLE)THEY WILL VERY OFTEN SEND YOU FREE PILLS JUST NEED YOUR DRS.SCRIPT.HEY ITS ONLY A PHONE CALL TO YOU SO ITS WORTH A TRY.SEE I HAVE NO ONE AS MY FAMILY ARE ALL DEAD SO I'VE HAD TO COME UP W/IDEAS AND LEARN TO SPEAK UP FOR MYSELF!I AGREE W/YOU ABOUT THE OXYCONTIN I MEAN REALLY,HOW CAN YOU EVEN GET ADDITED WHEN YOUR TERMINAL AND IF YOU DO....F*** IT!THEY STILL HAVE STRONGER IV STUFF TO MAKE YOU COMFORTABLE NEAR THE END. I THINK YOUR NURSE FRIEND IS RIGHT,YOU SHOULD TALK TO THE DR. IN PRIVATE B/C ITS HIS JOB TO DECIEDE WHAT ACTION TO TAKE W/HER.SORRY IF I SEEM TO BE RAMBLING HERE BUT I HAVE TO KEEP GOING TO THE TOP OF THE PAGE TO READ WHAT YOU WROTE THEN BACK TO THE BOTTOM TO TRY TO REMEMBER WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY!!!!LOL DID YOU TELL ME YOU CAN'T TAKE THE FENTANYL PATCHES? B/C THEY WORK GREAT FOR ME,I USE ANY WHERE FROM50MCG TO125MCG WHICH KEEP ME COVERED(NO WOOWOO FEELINGS)THEN I HAVE THE DILAUDED 2MG WHICH I CAN HAVE 2 OFX4-6HRS.BUT IT TOOK ALOT OF TRIAL&ERROR TO GET HERE! I LIVE IN UPSTATE NY HOW 'BOUT YOU(I PROMISE I'M NOT A STALKER!WAS JUST WONDERING IF WE WERE FAR APART)BEST OF LUCK WHEN SPEAKING TO THE DR.!I HOPE I CAN NOW GET SOME SLEEP!!! TAKE CARE DOLL!

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i take 8 to 10 a day of hydromorphone and dont get even feel it at all anymore. im 120 pounds and feel healty,i have been doing this for almost 5 years now and just cant get relief anymore,my doc gives me 200 8mg pills every 28 days,i also get 56 6mg caps of hydromorph contin every 28 days and 84 2mg pills of lorazepam every 28 days,im trying to find a way to get relief again, i have plenty of meds. Could it be the lorazepam thats keeping me down so i don't get relief,i would think the pam would help but it doesn't, im worried about overdosing on the Dilaudid. {edited for safety}

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To johnny if ur taking 4 mg 8 times a day YOU DO HAVE A PROBLEM ITS CALLED DRUG ADDICTION

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I already did say something to my doctor, I was crying and explaining it did not feel right and I have to feel safe their of all places, his office should be it. He was very sweet, all lot of there there's but I feel like he knows it's going on and allows it where he doesn't know what else to do or even worse, a patient that follows the rules? Just got a sense that they were not the slightest bit concerned, made sure I know THEY were not concerned and neither should I be - the message is clear, but out! I'm keeping my mouth shut and watching for now. I just got the feeling that he knew and let's say h e found a way to make me feel very uncomfortable and I tried to act a naive as possible, seemed okay later so I'll see but I now want to find a doctor that will help me through these type issues and addiction should be something addressed no matter the time. Thanks for everyone's input.

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