Snorting Dilaudid (Page 3)
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my freind has an addiction to oxycontin, and now she has dilaudid 4 mg, and she plans on taking it too, b/c one of her freinds said that its like oxycontin and that she would get the same effect. does anyone no if its safe to do so?

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I feel your pain. Trust me. I have so many things wrong with my body its crazy. Im *ALWAYS* in severe cronic pain. They say I will be in a wheelchair by time im 35. Im 28 now and have a 9 yearold son I cant take care of like I used to. Due to my pain. It takes me at least an hour to get out of bed everyday. I have been on the vicodin and tramadol darvacet..u name it. For 7 years. They DO NOT WORK FOR ME ANYMORE and where I live there are so so many junkies its unreal. And I am not addicted I am DEPENDANT theres a difference. I need them to live a normal life. I hate it tho. And it pisses me off that there r so many people who use just to get high. It screws ppl like me over when their docs say yea u have this and that and yes its very painful but still prescribes the same s*** year after year. Dam its frustrating

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god bless you. you hit the nail on the head, very frustrating for me to see s*** like that said by people not walking a day in our shoes.

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I have been taking dilaududs 4's for quite q while usually around 8 a day. I. Have started sweating profusely when I take them and I haven't read of anyone else having this problem. I will be fine until I take them and then the sweating starts- so it is not a withdrawal thing it's like once the meds get I my system I start the sweating. I would really appreciate anyone's help on this. I would feel great if I wasn't sweating so much-- thank you!

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better than sex? I dnt know who uv been with...but I've done almost every drug an haven't found one yet better than sex...now of course there are a few which have made sex more enjoyable. my advice is to find someone better in bed lol

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So will they show as MS Contin on a drug screen??

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I'm a drug addict, started when the Dr misdiagnosed my medical condition. And was prescribed flasks of liquid codeine. Like all drug addicts, we always look for the best way to get relief. Not proud of it, its what i do...good luck many prayers...

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Snorting a dilaudid is a bad idea.. it was told to me by my doctor that a 2mg dilaudid is 9x stronger than a 15mg morphine pill.. I am prescribed roxycodone 30mg an dilaudid is much stronger than them..I know from experience. DO NOT SNORT A DILAUDID AT ALL , WHO EVER TOLD YOU THAT IS A COMPLETE IDIOT AN NEEDS TO LEARN HIS FACTS.. HE COULD GET PEOPLE KILLED GIVING OUT THE WRONG INFO LIKE THAT.. DONT SNORT ANYTHING ,, take it orally

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Very very addictive snorting anything.. I could control it b4 then. Now I'm a full blown addict I get up everyday with pain and cols and hot flashes just trying to come up with 30-40$ to get a Roxy or opanna to feel normal. Doesn't even affect me anymore . A few fun weekends turns into a ruined life.

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What is the least amount of dilauded 4 mg someone could take to result in death? I'm very cocerned for this person.thanks

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TB - well, some ppl have reported that continually insulfating Dilaudid for a long time can cause breathing problems (such as wheezing, coughing, waking up in the middle of the night unable to breathe, etc), but not any permanent damage. I'd suggest switching to oxycodone, however, the doctor will most likely want to switch to oxycontin (which can't be snorted); and in any case I'm not entirely sure switching medications will prevent any potential breathing problems. So I think you should inform your husband to Insufflate the pills very lightly (to ensure he doesnt inhale a bunch of powder into his lungs) and use a dropper / nasal sprayer filled with water to rinse out his nose as often as possible. Those aren't urgent things you need to tell him, but if the subject ever comes up, he should know.

And if he's insulfating because he likes the rush: the rush certainly doesn't last that long. The high / overall effectiveness won't last as long as it would if he were ingesting them, but since he has 4 pills, I'm sure he gets through the day just fine. Instead of worrying about physical dangers, you should be focused on paying attention to whether or not this gets out of control. I strongly recommend you tell him that he can do it in front of you so that you'll at least know if he's beginning to have a problem (such as doing it too much / too often).

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I had joint replacement surgery 7 days ago. I have taken 3 4mg Diladid in 7 hrs can I drink a 12 oz beer?

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For those of you that are extremely gung-ho about pills, and think that you know everything about them, and people can eff off if they're saying it's bad... You've got a monster on your back (to put it nicely). I was addicted to Vicodin and oxycodone, and it was a nightmare. I vomited blood frequently, and even though I've been a year clean, I'm STILL paying for the havoc they've reeked on my stomach. They've eaten a hole in my stomach that I have yet to have medically looked at and treated. Constant gerd, rib and abdomen pain, and digestive issues... Just the Sunday school version for ya. So ask yourself, is it worth it? Didn't take long to trash my digestive tract at all. Get help, and if you're not already suffering, you will be soon.

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My husband suffers from severe chronic back pain from a 25 year-old 360 degree fusion at L4/S1. He is under the care of a PM Dr and never goes over his Rx dose of Dilaudid. I know he is insulfating the med, but he is doing it secretively. I have told him I don't like him abusing it, that there's no reason other than a sense of deviance, or that he may have some physiological problems from this method. I'd like some feedback on this method's effectiveness and duration of relief. He is Rx'd 4 mg x 4/day and has been sticking to this for about 6 months now. May I relax about his ingestion method?

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Now for the "medical side" it's a pill not to be abused, just taken the way it's RXed!! It's not meant to be shot or snorted. If it was it would be liquid and u will get hypos or they will make a intranasal spray!! Do what ever but use ur heads!!!!

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PILLS ----- I destroy homes, tear families apart, take your children, and that's just the start. I'm more costly than diamonds, more costly than gold, the sorrow I bring is a sight to behold, and if u need me, remember I'm easily found. I live all around you, in schools and in town. I live with the rich, I live with the poor, I live down the street, and maybe next door. My power is awesome; try me.................. you'll see, but if you do, you may never break free. Just try me once and I might let you go, but try me twice, and I'll own your soul. When I possess you, you'll steal and you'll lie. You do what you have to just to feel high. The crimes you'll commit, for my narcotic charms will be worth the pleasure you'll feel in your arms. You'll lie to your mother; you'll steal from your dad When you see their tears, you should feel sad. But you'll forget your morals and how you were raised, I'll be your conscience, I'll teach you my ways. I take kids from parents, and parents from kids, I turn people from god, and separate from friends. I'll take everything from you, your looks and your pride, I'll be with you always, right by your side. You'll give up everything your family, your home, your friends, your money, then you'll be alone. I'll take and take, till you have nothing more to give. When I'm finished with you you'll be lucky to live. If you try me be warned this is no game. If given the chance, I'll drive you insane. I'll ravish your body; I'll control your mind. I'll own you completely; your soul will be mine. The nightmares I'll give you while lying in bed, the voices you'll hear from inside your head, the sweats, the shakes, the visions you'll see; I want you to know, these are all gifts from me, But then it's too late, and you'll know in your heart, that you are mine, and we shall not part. You'll regret that you tried me, they always do, but you came to me, not I to you. You knew this would happen. Many times you were told, but you challenged my power, and chose to be bold. You could have said no, and just walked away, If you could live that day over, now what would you say? I'll be your master; you will be my slave, I'll even go with you, when you go to your grave. Now that you have met me , what will you do? Will you try me or not? Its all up to you. I can bring you more misery than words can tell. Come take my hand, let me lead you to hell... Repost this and you could save a pill taker and his or her life.

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I appreciate your input, I am looking at trying the Opana, that was apparently a reasonable suggestion, doctor not so thrilled by the methadone idea (honestly that scares me a bit, I suppose it's something I associate w/clinics...). Since marijuana is not legal in my state, I really am not sure what a true pain relieving type would do or feel like, the pharmaceutical is terribly sedating and I couldn't imagine getting a whole lot done. I do year of it's value but it's just not available even if I wanted to risk it. I have been dropping down my Fentanyl dosing quite successfully, I keep waiting for horrible w/d affects (the usual malaise, clamminess, etc.) but dropping every 3-6 days, holding now at 37 mcg, more issues w/pain, such a tough choice to have to make :(. Appreciate your taking the time to help me with the benefit of your experience. As my doctor says, given my prognosis, I need to focus on the right balance of comfort and side effects as I have a tendency to get "behind the pain" and I'm not looking at a long horizon. I think there's just always going to be that side of me that will refuse to give in :)! Be well.

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{edited for safety} I say this so that you would be able to cut down the amount and frequency that you take your medication. The advil is added in as more of a euphoria enhancer it keeps me more alert and awake while I am on high doses of medication. I wish you the best and hope that you can get off the pain meds. As it took me a long time to realize that the pain meds made my pain dramatically worse and more drawn out. Not to mention the fact that I would be more active while on the pain meds therefore causing more damage and pain in the future. Medical marijuana is the only medication I have found that helps with the pain and causes no dependency on the substance and no future pain related to the medication.If you plan on taking opiates for the long term I would suggest opana or methadone as I found that the best long term alternative and my number one choice for pain relief has hands down been methadone.

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To "High Tolerance", I am thinking you sent this info. for me (Brynn), I have actually been told by my doctor that Phenergan is used both for control of nausea AND a good side benefit is it makes the Fentanyl more effective (last longer and at most potential) but it makes me tired too! Forgive me for asking but why Advil, a I wouldn't think the pain relieving properties would be all that great, comparatively that is. Funny on the grapefruit juice, I LOVE it anyway but so e of my meds SPECIFICALLY state not to take w/grapefruit juice, that it affects the absorption of many medications so where it might (I really don't know, if someone out there knows the deal on grapefruit juice on RXs)increase the Fentanyl, there are many of us PM patients that have disease processes and are on other prescription medications, NOT solely pain meds. The Tagamet is actually a great suggestion, my pharmacist says it's safe to change from Pepcid to Tagamet (Cimetidine) and a side benefit can be the same as Phenergan minus the sedation. I just ALWAYS thought that the body adjusts to the sedation effects of these meds after a few weeks, esp. a few months, but I really think this Fentanyl is making me very tired. I've dropped down doses, but the pain increases a lot, but at least I'm awake. Wish it weren't one or the other. For those of you that write of Dilaudid, I personally found it to be an AWFUL oral pain reliever and I have been told by so many other PM patients that crushing and using in ANY other format will destroy your tolerance overnight and when you need it, it will NOT WORK, in fact it will affect other pain medications and you want to protect your tolerance like nobody's business. I don't care what anybody tells you, once your tolerance increases, it never comes down (maybe for a short time, but never for the long-term). No "medication vacation" will ever work, for some reason our brains are forever altered in how they process pain and pain relief. If you take medication for recreational purposes, I am told you suffer w/this issue much more. I NEVER planned on becoming severely ill, I worry for those of you that don't realize how bad pain can be when you get cancer or other painful diseases. UNBEARABLE and you are NOT invincible, I am not "old", have been sick, really sick since my 20's, I am just so glad I do not have an addictive personality, if I did, I would be in hospice I have no doubt. Please be mindful w/these medications, all of them destroy your tolerance at some point regardless of your reasons for taking them but Dilaudid will do it 100 times faster and for what, how long could the "high" last when for pain relief the oral meds are well known to be lousy pain relievers (I have ZERO experience w/illicit drug use, I don't know anything about heroin or cocaine to those of you that factor those in, I can only imagine as I believe OxyContin is considered the prescription sister to heroin). I suppose if drug abuse were rational, many of you wouldn't do I, but if this makes one person stop and think, it's worth the time I've spent here - tolerance is not discussed enough in pain management! BE WELL!

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{edited for safety} There both potentatiors and will allow you to cut your dose in half and itll last twice as long also helps with the anxiety you have when cutting your dose and worrying about the withdrawls. Also your getting tired all of the time from the drugs thats how they work for some people all they can do is sleep.

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Dearest Breeia,
I don't know why or how but another remission has been sent my way. However my life is very limited, I am much weaker this go around and the pain is simply terrible. The IV pain meds have destroyed my tolerance and what I need to have manageable pain leaves me too exhausted and unfocused to do much of anything. I don't yet know if I have recovered from the multiple surgeries and infections, no doctor can tell me. I am now on Fentanyl patches, can ANYONE out there PLEASE, PLEASE tell me what their experience is w/these? I feel so tired all of the time but they work (I didn't realize a patch had come off and was stuck to the inside of my nightgown and had to go to the ER), a bit embarrassing but the doctor was really nice and said it happens a lot (does it really for others b/c it's happened many times, I only know when it's too late). I now have extra patches to use when this happens AND now I tape them down extra but then I lose track of the number of days! I also have fairly fast acting break through medication, but I want to reduce hoping the profound sedation/fatigue I feel will lift a bit. I can't tell if it's disease or medication related and of course the doctors don't know either although they suspect it's a little of both. I am going to try and drop down, w/doctor's supervision but so far the first drop has brought severe clammy feelings, sweating, racing heart, I guess feelings of withdrawal. How long could this last? Anyone w/experience I really need to know how fast I can get from 100 mcg to 50 mcg w/o such misery. I'd rather feel SOME pain but be more alert. Good news is, my children and husband were beyond thrilled by my remission, I could really tell it was sincere. I needed to feel that I wasn't the burden I had previously felt. It is horrible what depression and pain can do to one's mind and I wish all of you on this board, regardless why you use these medications, realize just how bad they can affect your psyche. If you can drop down, do it, if you use to get "high" I hope you find a safe way out before it's too late as I would give anything to not feel the withdrawal I feel - and I don't think these feelings (physical & emotional) care why you take these medications to begin with - just choosing the the lesser of the two evils I suppose. Breeia, thank you my friend, it looks like I get to see another year, who knows, maybe they will find more answers. Sending you hugs now and always! <3

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