Side Effects Of Suboxone (Page 6)

I have been on suboxone now for just under a month. I think it is an amazing drug, i have had no cravings or interest in returning to opiates, my drug of choice was oxy. I get up every day feeling happy, and am able to take on what ever the day brings me. I am also on lexapro for depression at this time. There is one problem after i take my dose, which is 8 mg. twice a day, I am extremely tired sometimes to the point where if i sit down I will nod off, so I keep moving and can usually fight through it. I am wondering do other people feel this way or does it get better the longer you are on it? Two other things that are sometimes very bothersome are dizzyness and extreme dry mouth. I just wanted to find out other peoples experiences. Thanx

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To me the first month or month and a half I found Suboxone has a "honeymoon phase" I had SO much energy and loved it and after about a month and a half it wore off completely and now in the cannot wake up in the morning phase which I don't care for.. I wish the energy level had stayed but unfortunately is now completely gone.. Good luck on your treatment.. I DO find Suboxone a life saver.. I feel "normal" (whatever that is supposed to be, LOL..No, honestly I feel like the me I one did year's ago but with so much more confidence

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ask your doctor about clonidine. My doctor prescribed it to me for leg tremours related to suboxone withdrawl.

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Hey Ash... I take Klonipin for Panic Disorder and PTSD.. I've been on it for about 11 yr.'s and know in my heart that is the only med. I CANNOT do without.. The unreal fear's that I have are terrifying to me.. I've heard so many people who have had a couple of panic attack's throughout their lifetime say it's all in my mind.. But they have never been diagnosed with TRUE Panic DO nor PTSD.. I have to live my life around my irrational fear's and do the best I can.. I work full time but I'm so terrified of driving on the highway (one of my long list of many crazy irrational fear's) that I ride with a co-worker but my point to all of this was that my Dr. that prescribe's the Suboxone has no problem with me taking my Klonipin but I don't even take it as directed.. I'm prescribed 6 1mg.'s per day but normally take around 2 and on really bad day's I do take 3.. I don't know if Dr.'s are afraid since people are addicted to opiate's that they would be likely to overdo it on benzo's but I've NEVER abused my Klonipin... I remember the first time I took Suboxone right in his office he told me that Klonipin was a GREAT medication for Panic DO and he approved of it.. Now I am by no mean's telling any one that it's OK to mix benzo's and sub's but since I was addicted to 100 mg.'s of Fentanyl (80-100 times stronger than morphone) which a Dr. prescribed me but I could not afford to get it filled, the pain doctor would have me free samples monthly and THAT is how I became addicted to opiate's... NOT by abusing pill's I bought off of the street's, friend's or overdoing my own prescription.. I'm just like everyone on here used opiate's knowingly and became addicted and kept on using the patches and after a couple of yr.'s the only feeling I got from the patches were extreme drowsiness and was so lethargic that I did not care if I missed work, cleaned my house, just anything.. ALL I cared about was using the fentanyl patches to keep what little high I was now getting and threw in my Klonipin and my Ambien (both tablets and the mist).. I'd say talk to the Dr. and if they approve then it's OK to take them.. My Dr. that prescribe's my subs has known me for yr.'s and know's that NO way can I live in terror so I have to have my Klonipin

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Bonnie I have EXTREME joint pain.. Especially my leg's.. I mean the pain is so severe that it often keeps me awake or waking up all through the night.. I know I no longer have the horrid back pain I did when I was on the 100 mg.'s of Fentanyl patches. I don't know if it's the sub's blocking the pain or what but now the joint pain is very extreme

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Man U guys just don't know what you've got your selves into, these doctors who subscribe this drugs have never experienced the agony and pain that I've been thru and that you all will one day go thru. I said the same thing at first. "It's a miracle drug, I feel like I'm 17 again, I can out work anyone at my job," blah blah blah. This fact is this my withdrawals were insanely worse than when I kicked shooting 10-15 30's a day. This drug gets into your bones and the longer you take SUB(stitute) the worse it will be. Take it from some one who has quit both. I thought my withdrawals would be mild, after all I had gotten down to an eighth of an 8 mg strip daily, after only 6 mo. It can't be as bad as the pills, boy was I wrong I sucked worse. The only way to get off is to gradually wheen urself take a half for a week then cut a sliver off for a week next week cut two slivers off and so on

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Hi, Shay -- I read your message. that sucks that you don't get any support from your b/f. It sounds to me like you might need to get a new b/f. I know that's probably easier said than done. My suggestion to you is to go to some NA meetings (you don't have to tell your b/f your going there). I never really liked going to those meetings I was forced to go to them several years ago b/c of a DWI. But if you find the right meeting, you can meet some people w/the same addiction as you and they will give you a lot of support. if you don't have anyone to turn to to support you through this, it will be very hard to stay off the opiates. Trust me, I know about that. Give it a try. and it might take going to several meetings before you find one you like.

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Wow I couldn't imagine living with the every day fears you suffer from. I was also on kolonipins and the doc took em away from me and it's been a struggle to cope with my anxiety ever since. I have borderline personality along with MILD PTSD as well with some histineric (not spelled right) and antisocial tendencys. It can be hard but I've learned. To cope without the help of

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Hey Bryant -- thanks for your post about what you went through when you came off Suboxone. I've been really worried about that myself. I'm down to 1 strip 8mg a day. I've wanted to start weening myself off of it b/c I've been on it for quite a while and I think it's time to come off of it. but every time I go down just a little, I have no energy. I'm really worried about the withdrawl when I do come off of it. Thanks for the info.

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if you would have tapered down you would have felt little to no withdrawal. you must taper gradually over a long period of time. i did and felt very little wihdrawal. of course you felt bad withdrawals, it sounds like you went cold turkey from 2 mg. you have to taper down to .25 of a mg before you go to zero. that's 1/4 of 1 mg.

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Shay you can look up suboxone doctors on the internet there are cheaper places the clinic i go to charges only $55 every 2 weeks for 12 weeks then you go once a month for $55 and i know how you feel with no support my ex wasnt supportive at all and the sad thing is that he was mad that i am on suboxone when all im tryin to do is better myself hang in there you know your doing a good thing by bettering your life and thats all that matters i wish the best of luck to you

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Hi there, I am in a similar situation (ish). I was on Percocet due to 3 botched surgeries. I had no clue what Percocet was at the time but boy did it make the pain go away. Then as time passed I knew I was becoming addicted to them. My doc kept telling me "Terri, that's me, because you are in here talking to me about your concerns I'm not worried about you at all. I NEVER took pills, not even for a headache!!!! I ate healthy, went to the gym 4 days a week, had a thriving business & I lost it all. My one true grace of God is my husband and 2 daughters stuck by me. I finally had enough of loosing every friend I had, lost my business, gained 50lbs and worrying my family to bits and decided enough was enough. So I went back to my "doctor" and told him to get me off these things!!!!! I had already cut down from 22 pills a day to about 8 (I think) so my "doctor" sent me to our pain clinic and they introduced me to Da Da Da Da..... Suboxone!!!! I was told it was non addictive, it will immediately stop all withdrawals from Percocet and there are NO side effects!!!! LIARS!! I have every horrible side effect listed. And the longer you are on this pill the worse the side effects get. I've been on them for almost 2 tears now and I'm right back to being addicted to an opiate and trying to deal with the withdrawals. I realize this drug got us off our pain pill of choice but nothing, NOTHING is as rosy as it seems. I live in Canada & it is my understanding that Canada is taking this drug off the market. Go figure right. Anyways, good luck to you all, I hope you have better luck getting off suboxone then I am.

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Suboxone is known to cause joint pain, blurry vision, numbness in your lips, liver damage, dizziness, chest pain, heart palpitations, depression, heaviness in your chest, ADDICTION (because its an opiate) & severe withdrawal when coming off this wonder drug!!!! ... The list goes on & on & the longer you are on this drug the worse these symptoms can get. This is my experience with Suboxone.

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I also experienced dry mouth. It is not uncommon. Just keep some water handy. As for the tiredness...yes i experienced that as well. I think that is simply due to the fact that although suboxone is not a full opiate agonist it is still a partial opiate agonist. I'm sure you are following your doctor's dosage recommendations but i can tell you that you can avoid the tiredness by taking a smaller dosage. I learned from experience that i was fine on a very minimal dose. I started at 24 mg a day! I brought myself down to 2 mg a day with no withdrawal symptoms. I did it gradually over two months. I was on sub for 3 years. I eventually completely weaned off. But i weaned off EXTREMELY slowly over a 6 month time frame to the point where when i finally "jumped off" (i.e. i was not taking any sub at all) i was only taking .25of 1 mg. That's one quarter of 1 mg. That's how slowly and minimally you need to taper down in order to wean off when you are ready in orders to feel little to no withdrawal
Just want you to be aware of that as you will hear many stories of people's withdrawal nightmares. They are true it's just that they didn't wean off properly as i did. If you do it slowly over a long period of time and get your dose down to the smallest dose possible you will almost completely avoid withdrawal. I did it. Also i really did not need to take the 24 mg dose the dr had me on. I could've taken 4 mg a day from the start. Iearned that on my own. Good luck. Stay clean. While the negative stories you may read here about sub are true you can use sub like i did successfully if you dose and wean the right way. Take care.

John

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John, thanks for sharing something intelligent! People come on here and give their shoddy advice about how they quit against their docs recommendations etc etc. People some of you are meant to be on subs for the rest of your life and some people can be weaned off in a short period of time. If your addiction was even worth getting treatment for your doctor will keep you on suboxone for TWO YEARS. I have done the research (you all can do your own) and in most moderate addiction cases quitting any earlier has at least an 85% chance of relapse. You need to wean off when your doctor tells you too. You know that guy you pay a lot of money to treat you? Yeah the one who completed medical school! So seriously, just because some yayhoo on the internet tells you suboxone is evil so he weaned himself off and had horrible results ...I must say you deserve any discomfort that's headed your way. Talk to your doctor for Pete's sake people.

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Thanks Ash and Suzi Q for BOTH of your replies... It gives me hope I can somehow get thru all of this when someone makes a positive reply.. I hate when people judge you and I sincerely mean it when I say THANKS to the BOTH of you for some positive feedback.. I do wish the Dr.'s had never put me on any type of anti-anxiety med.'s..It started out with Xanax and they never helped.. They knocked me out but when I woke up I was freaked out..Like a little child and still to this day I cannot stand to wake up alone in the house.. I do take the Klonipin and my psychiatrist said at my last visit that it sounded like I suffered more from PTSD and prescribed a new anti-depressant that is supposed to help U deal with those feeling's...Well according to him "Completely take them away"..It's called Viibryd but 30 cost's $128.00 a month so I haven't gotten them filled.. I haven't contacted my Dr. either about not being able to afford it because he charges for ANYTHING..I guess I'll just wait until my next appt. and have a talk with him... He is the only Dr. (psychiatrist) I have EVER been to that charges for medication changes, filling out any type of form's, taking phone call's from patient's but I don't know who else to go to because none take my type of insurance...I'm in my 30's and I know if any of U saw me in a full terror or hysterical (not the funny type of hysterical,LOL) type of panic attack you would think I was some kind of side show freak...My b/f has gotten better somewhat as far as his action's but every now and then I have to hear "You are still on those damn pill's".."You'll never get off of drug's" while he goes out to his little man cave building and smoke's a joint and comes in not knowing where he crapped last and blown away.. I mean it's not like I'm popping Klonipin left and right...Even though my psychiatrist and my suboxone Dr.'s know what I take my shrink still prescribe's me 6 1 mg.'s of klonipin daily but I take 2 a day and I keep them stashed back just in case something happened and I had to find another Dr... I do have back problem's and recently fell and cracked my tailbone, bruised my muscle's in my right thigh, and had some torn ligament's..I stayed in pain for 2 week's and went back up on my sub's to 2 8 mg. strips a day thinking it would help my pain but unfortunately it did not..Mt sister is a nurse and works for an Orthopedic Surgeon and she made me an appt...I was terrified that he would judge me as some drug addict but he had a problem with opiate use and had lost his license at one point and was on Suboxone for a short period..He was truly nice and comforting and wrote down how to gradually get off of the sub's..He prescrubed ne Neurontin for the pain, clonidine for when I finish the sub taper and had written down how to go down by 1/4 of what I take every week and a half so right now I'm down to 1 and 3/4 daily and keep those stock piled up so I plan on paying one more time $400.00 since I am now at the "Come every 20 day's RAD appt.'s and see the Dr. once monthly".. After my next payment I'll be eligable to pay $200.00 per month instead of the $400.00 since all of my drug screen's have been fine, never missed a RAD appt. and have paid on time every month..I DO have to say it really scare's me too death.. I had 2 DUI's and just recently graduated the 1 yr. program and am now eligable to get my license back. To me that mean's getting out and seeing old drug dealer's and I am terrified of being tempted to start using again.. I think Suzi is right.. I sincerely need to begin going to NA meeting's for support since my support system is very poor at home..My mom is my biggest supporter, well my only support I guess.I just plan on to keep coming to this site and hope again for some positive replies on what I should and need to do.. Sorry for such a long post but I'm the type I go in to every intricate detail..Thanks again Suzi and Ash !!!!! Keep up the great work

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Well I don't even know you but we are proud of you! Sometimes you just need someone to relate to! I hope this isn't too personal but have you ever had a psychological evaluation done? I wasn't sure what was wrong with me (and neither where my numerous doctors). After the psych eval I was able to have an accurate diagnosis and be properly treated and medicated. Have you ever thought that your long term ptsd might be elevated to something else. From how my doctor explained to me is borderline personality disorder is the long term and life long version of PTSD. Psychologists know a lot but from personal experience they can misdiagnosed easily. If you have insurance, it should cover a psych eval.once a year...and if not you should check and see if there is a community mental health facility local to you. There should be, different areas have dif programs but they can vary from free to low cost services to much cheaper medications.

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I feel the same, some days/weeks good and some days/weeks I feel sooooo tired and lazy. I have a terrible time losing weight and the sex drive is very low. I have been on sub for 17 months started with 4mg a day now I split my 8mg into 6 small pieces.
Thinking of taking some testosterone boosters to help me with the lazyness and depression.

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Subs done the same to me and I'm a....lady...ahem :) But yeah I don't get turned on that easily anymore so the sex is just becoming routine and monotonous. And I can't orgasam unless I try really hard ( emphasis on "I"). And I feel bloated and fat AND I can't poop normal. I hope all that TMI just made someone else as uncomfortable as I feel :P

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thank you, John, for the info about weaning yourself off. I've been worried about coming off of sub b/c I've heard people say they had terrible withdrawals from it. I'm glad to see that if you do it properly and over a long period of time there shouldn't be any or minimal withdrawals . that's great to know!! Thanks again

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you're welcome...I'm not saying it's easy but it's definitely doable and not the end of the world...and not how many seem to depict it here....patience and a bit of fortitude will get you off if that's what you want. but AGAIN you have to cut down to the smallest dose possible gradually over a relatively long period of time. take an 8 mg strip, cut it into 8 pieces...that' s 1 mg. then cut that into 4 pieces and you have .25of 1 mg...working my way down to that was painless...no s***...from there it was only minor discomfort...some tiredness....but when I felt i couldn't take being tired( after about 2 or 3 days was when I'd feel this slight tiredness and mind you I wasn't vomiting, no diarrhea, no leg restlessness, just a bit listless....then I took the .25 mg and was good. then the Times when I felt the need to even take .25mg got less and less....the thimy is many people think jumping off from 4 or 2 mg is sufficient to avoid withdrawal don't know any better. it' s hard to stop...a lot of these people get to what they think is a small dose, then lose patience, and jump too soon or they want that little boost that the slightly higher dose of sub provides and they go back up...then they get frustrated and jump off too soon at too high a dose and feel like s***...but in their post they may not say as much....get the picture? slow and steady and it takes willpower but I can say from experience if you do it like I'm describing you will feel little to no withdrawal pain. the challenge is the mental...

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