Perc 30 Replacement - How Many Suboxone N8

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How much Suboxone should I start taking I have been taking 10 to 15 Perc 30s a day for about 5 weeks know and have run out of them. I am horrified. My Detox just strated last night and I don't know what to do. I have 4 N8 Suboxone pills............ I got my hands on 20 Percosets ( M 362 white oval pills 10mg Percs ) and 20 aderall 20 Mg ( COT 135 orang round pill ) My friend just stopped by with 4 Suboxone N8. Thats all I have and I am sick as a dog. Stomach empty feeling, headach, I feel like I'm crawling out of my skin, cold then hot. Any suggestions would be great, I cant even move arround I hurt so much, How long will this last ? What is my best bet for suboxones ? I want to stop the Percs and be sober / stright for a while. I have not found a Detox in my area, Boston, as of yet

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Okay, first you are completely mixing up medications, so I am not even certain what you mean you have taken and what you have now.

There is no 30mg Percocet, it contains the active ingredients Oxycodone and Acetaminophen and is only available in a maximum dosage of 10mgs of the Oxycodone.

https:/­/­rxchat.com/­wiki/­Percocet/­

There are tablets that just contain 30mgs of the Oxycodone, so is that what you meant you were taking?

https:/­/­rxchat.com/­wiki/­Oxycodone/­

The tablet with the M 362 does contain 10mgs of Hydrocodone and 660mgs of Acetaminophen, but that is also not a Percocet, this is a generic for Vicodin, or Lortab.

https:/­/­rxchat.com/­wiki/­Vicodin/­

You do, however, have the COR 135 tablet correct, that does contain 20mgs of mixed amphetamine salts, which is a generic for Adderall.

https:/­/­rxchat.com/­wiki/­Adderall/­

However, as a stimulant, it can also be habit forming and isn't really going to help with withdrawals from narcotics.

The Suboxone pills also should not be used with other narcotics and should not be taken, unless you are in full withdrawal from them. They contain both Buprenorphine and Naloxone, the Naloxone is used to help prevent someone abusing other narcotics, while they are under treatment with it and it can throw you into dangerous withdrawals, if taken when you aren't in full withdrawal from other narcotics, already.

https:/­/­rxchat.com/­wiki/­Suboxone/­

Can you please post back and clarify?

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I feel for you i really do ,I take over 2,200mg of Oxycodone a day for the rest of my life due to scolisis ruptured discs and a lot of other medical reasons that require me to be on such a high dose, Anyway there is a point to where i'm going with this. One time when i ran out my doc would not fill them for me for a week beleive me it was the worst week of my life, and mind you "the dose i take and the amount you took, The suboxone will help a little its not a complete stop of withdraws but it will slow it down a lot. I had to put two under my tounge it helped a good bit. you will need more suboxone once your out cause the withdraws will come back so do what you have to do while you feel better on the suboxone ,meaning make your calls to either get in to detox or get more suboxone I know how you are feeling so please do that it will save you a lot of aggony and pain i willl pray for your recovery god bless Rob.

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i dont know if i can ask a question here i hope can well here it goes my fiance and boht got hooked on percs we do 2 to 3 perc 30s a day each i was told that if we did the subs we could get off the ops and not go throigh withdrawls after a few days of the subs is that at all true>? if not please let me know because we have been tapering down trying to get ff so we have bee doing 2 a day each strictly and he plas on going for 12 hours n then taking some suboxin... idk what to do i hate this drug and how it makes me a slave nad controls my whole life i have gone so broke supporting our drug habbit and it was so we could feel better to get our daily tsks better then one day we didnt want any and w needed them i felt horrible and ashamed tht i got us into any advice anyone has would really help out i appreciate it thakn you

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If you really have an everyday habit, and have for a while now, then 12 hrs WILL be long enough to start feeling like sh*t. Just go to sleep then wait as long as possible (1/2 the day, maybe) and take a TINY piece of the sub...like 1mg and DO NOT take any subs if you arent REALLY dependant on oxy. Subs are strong. They stay in your system for a long time as well, half life is like 30 hrs. meaning, if you did 2mg tomorrow night the next night you would still have 1mg in your system. Google suboxone, that is how it is spelled..and you will see that withdrawl from it is WAY WORSE than the oxy (because of the long half life) so if you can just lay around and feel like crap for 3-4 days that would be a lot better than getting on the subs. If youHAVE to be up and do things, then only take as much sub as you need to just get by, and take half as much the next day and the next, next...etc. You can detox from oxy with 1 8mg sub!! just take SMALL PIECES. and its just like anything else....more than a few days in a row you're screwed!! Be careful! This is just my opinion (with experience).

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Wow these are some great posts :) I'm on the same page, my boyfriend and I have been doing about 11-15 per two people 30mg (oxy) but to me their more like perks lOl a day. Sometimes their a215 sometimes Ms or Vs... I have been doing them for 2 years straight but my boyfriend was hooked on the real oxy 80s before I met him and he's worst then me :( for the last month I have cut down a lot, and through the day there's jawns that I would split in half. Now my w/d is bad, same as all the other ones have described... About an hour ago I took my last full jawn, going to sleep then waking up and just waiting long enough to take a piece of the sub. Im off from work until this comin up monday, so hopefully these two days and a weekend will help me feel back to normal with out jawns and with out subs? Not to mention my job has a lot of motion and running around to do...Now I'm a little worried because we have tried this before and we fell couple times back on the oxys(jawns) because either a) I wasn't ready or b) he wasn't ready, well this time I feel a little different, IM JUST SO SICK AND TIRED OF THESE JAWNS AND SPENDING SO MUCH $ on them and FIGHT AND ARGUE WITH MY BOYFRIEND ALL THE TIME ABOUT THE JAWNS AND STUPID THINGS THAT COME IN THE WAY, I'm also scared for my health, so I know for a fact it's my time to quit. We live together and I already see myself tomorrow or the next day wanting to do a jawn too because he's right there snoring them next to me and then me hearing him sniffling his nose is going to bother me too... He's not ready to quit and he's being a jerk to me, because he thinks I'm not going to quit but I am, I'm just scared that being around him is going to make me collapse again... I love him to death and I just don't know what to do =\\ there's nothing in the world I wouldn't love more if we quit together, and plenty of times we have said that or I was ready but then told me to wait for him and that never happened so kept banging more jawns and now I'm at the point where there's no turning back, and it's up too me, no matter who's around me I guess !

Thanx a lot

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u ever have any questions get at me man

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I was doing as many 30s as I could get my hands on in a day over a month ago on November 29 I signed myself into detox because like you I was scared for my health and ready to quit for me tho my fiancé has never taken drugs so for me to take this step she was shocked but very supportive she's been my rock without her I think I surely would have relapsed I hate to tell you this but if your ready and he's not you need to get away from him he's only gonna drag you Down misery loves company do what you need to do to survive your the only one that can make that choice no one can do it for you and he's only gonna bring you down on dec 29 I will be a month clean and it's a great feeling I hope the best for you and I hope that my post may help some. Find a local detox center and sign yourself into rehab it was the best decision I ever made

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2200 mg of OxyCodone in a day? That's not having high tolerance or over because of pain, that is literally 200 10 mg percocets in one day, at that point, your liver would prison break style s*** it's self out to run from all that Tylenol lol, that's bulls*** first n foremost

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So your saying u take nearly 100 30s a day?? For the rest of your life???? Good luck finding a dr to prescribe that of u better have millions and 100s of pill dealers..

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The percs 30mg that he referencing is is Oxycodone 30mg, they are called Roxy's on the street. They are sometimes made with Roxycodobe which is where the name came from but origannly was Oxycodone, same ingredient in Percocet.

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For everyone's info here since alot of people simply just have no idea what there talking about, there is several types of pain killers. u have hydrocodone/acetaminophen which is vicodin n they come in 5/500 7.5/500 and 10/500 also 10/325. the oxycodone comes in the same exact thing 5/500 7.5/500 AND 10/500 AND 10/325. those are ur typical oval pills. then they have oxycodone without any tylenol which come in 10mg round pink 15 mg round green 20 mg round grey and 30 mg round blue. ROXICODONE is the real deal medicine. all oxycodone is is the GENERIC VERSION OF ROXICODONE which is basicly what everyone is use to seeing such as Vs Ms k9s a215s and there is a few other brands. it is very rare to actualy see roxicodones because ur doctor has to check the box on the bottem of the script that says dispense as written. this is the only time u will not get the generic version which is hardly ever and also alot of time insurance does not cover the real deal roxis. they cover the generic verision which again is oxycodone. after 30 mg oxys u start getting into oxycontin which is a completly different ball game. those come in 40s 50s 60s and 80s i think but not sure. they might come in 120mg dont quote me on that though. also for everyone that does not know the 10s 15s 20s and 30s that do not have ne acetaminophen in them is basicly synthetic opiates. its made in a lab. suboxone is made specificly to get off pain killers... hope this helps someone because i just see so much bs go around. ppl act like they know what they're talkin about yet are giving completely wrong information so if u dont know dont put ur 2 sence in. people are here for help and knowledge and when u load ppl up with bs there going to go around thinkin that a lil research goes a long way people.

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Oxycotin comes 10s, 40,s,80,s and 160 but they r very tarely around, I take green15mg, or roxy 30mg iv well I took a N8 sub 1/2 hours Go,subliminal,but I feel like crap, if I take a roxy on the sub will I feel the roxyit??

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Doesn't stop withdrawals??? Are you F**** serious? I've seen opiate addicts take one 8mg sub pill and had no withdrawals for hours and hours. Don't comment on things you know nothing of. Suboxone is used to help treat opiate addicts, it keeps your mind thinking it's high 24/7, so withdrawals never actually start.

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I am a Vietnam Vet in the Boston area. I use the VA for all my needs including my medicines. I have been clean for 23 months and I contribute a lot of the success to the Subozone program we have here. I have a great doc and over time and with increased trust he has me on three (3) Subs per day. I had a pretty fair habit at the time, at least I thought so. But the subs make it look easy...

Since were talking about the N8 w/ the arrow inscribed on one side, I will say I have never had such a useless med. Our pharmacy dispenses three types, and of course you do know that they're all the garden variety "GENERIC" suboxone.

I recently told the head pharmacist that I would be better off buying a roll of tums and put them under my tongue. No response.

However, it does get better...

Currently as of today when I picked up my 82 subs for the month we had a couple of new choices. Yup, just like going out to the local McDonalds. The pharmacy now stocks (if they're not out):
1) the orange Subozone marked AN-415
2) and my favorite the 155/crescent moon logo

Gotta go in a minute, all Im saying is don't think the n8's will do much. And you know we need much, the subs are the only thing between us staying the course, or throwing it all away. I know other Vets who did just that...

Please, if you have a choice, and you should it's your life were talking about, PLEASE demand the best sub possible. Unless you have good insurance, then you can get the orange FILMS, or the new Zublov Subs. Peach in color, absorb fast and are considered Generic. Good Luck.

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U can do this u know how I know cause I've been in the same exact place u r now. It's not easy bit u can do it and if he's not gonna help u you will have to let him go this is your life were talking bout here. If it was not for the suboxone program I would b dead. Now I finished colleges done clinicals and got a great job. So I know u can do it if I can u just have to make changes in your life change the people ur around will help the most. If he's not gonna stop there's no way u can.

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Guess'in Basspro is spending too much time fishing and not doing his home work...

I'm say'in the N8 subs suck...Plain and simple. I think I would rather go back out and find my own @ Dr Main Streets house.

I'm getting the shot soon, so the Sub Soap Opera's will be a thing of the past...

Good Luck.

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2 a day anything else you're feeding a fire and will only be creating another problem after 1 week start breaking them 8n half .and so on

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