Need Help Finding Doctor To Prescribe Either Oxycodone Vicodin Or Methadone10mg For My Chronic Pain (Page 3)
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CeeCee Says:
 
I have been suffering from chronic pain for 7 years and have always been on and off pain meds from tylenol 3 to 90mg methadone at the worst of any ever taken. I decided to dose down & get off of methadone as I did not care for the "clinic" enviroment per say as I was using more for pain then for addicition. I found a dr that prescribed me the pain meds for breakthrough pain and the pill form of methadone 10mg was what I chose but now he is gone as he lost his license which sucks for me because NO ONE will give me anything, not even the methadone unless I go back to the stupid clinc and I so don't want that... DOES ANYONE KNOW OF A DR. that would prescribe anything or just something to get me through life with less pain? I am in the twin cities of Minnesota and I will drive if need be.

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sara Says:
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Kev-about your part b... If it's helpful... you can still get a "qualifying event" and get ACA with subsidies that leaves you paying about $50-out of pocket monthly.

All else gets paid with subsidized copays....Contact your state welfare or Medicare office. You have to ask for a QE specifically, and be persistent.

Many of the workers are still unsure how to do it. I kept calling until I found someone yesterday-yay!

This will give me treatment options denied me with my old insurance or Medicare. Very exciting stuff!:)

BUT, then you can get a great PPO plan with prescriptions and all.

I don't know if that's better than what you have, but it's an option and could go into effect 6/1.

Hope it's helpful.

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sara Says:
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KEV - im truly happy that you found a solution that works for you...good health is a blessing and we are ALL just trying to get the help we need. If my pain management specialist has tried all available options, and this is HER opinion, yours lacks relative merit.

A social work degree is a degree in working with people and systems. An excellent degree, but doesn't include a judge and jury option!

If you want to make decisions about pain management for others, get a better education. Like medical school.

Because you got lucky doesn't mean everyone else here hasn't tried similar solutions. You're just assuming that members are jumping to preferred narcotics. And that's a HUGE assumption, both mean and a narrow view.

Where I live, due to actual drug seekers, and I certainly agree there are many out there, the 30 day, no-refill policy already exists in pain management clinics.

Perhaps where you live, old school rules still apply. Check your own posts. First you said you knew the ABSOLUTE truth about the 30 day rule. Now you've corrected yourself, twice.

If you worked in the field, you'd know that suggesting someone go to "a hospital" for chronic pain management is ludicrous.

I have 3 M.A. degrees, one in MFT with an EXTENSIVE career, including an exhaustive background in pain management and addiction. And ongoing education throughout, including issues attendant to chronic pain such as depression and anxiety.

And yet I STILL consult a specialist, because I want the healthiest options I can find. And neither of us are doctors, so let's not start assuming we should give medical advice.

Rather, we help other community members as we can. That IS THE GOAL of the forum-support.

Newbies in the field are like you. After the first 10-15 years of seeing people truly suffer, perhaps you'll grow into humility. Maybe your own body will start to give out. Maybe it will take watching your parent or child be in intractable pain for you to finally get it...

You didn't CLEARLY AND FULLY read my answer to Sub. Or you just love feeling superior. It seems that despite hearing the truth, your sense of superiority is endless.

With so many war vets home now, chronic pain is a rapidly growing field. My prayer is that you serve them with better sensitivity than you've shown here.

If such a device actually exists, most here would welcome it, AS ANYTHING that helps is welcome for those with injuries that cannot be rehabilitated.

Objective inquiry and confirmation is always welcome if it helps us.

Continuing to call people addicts when it's been clearly explained to you is just wrong.

Perhaps addiction and/or recovery is part of your personal or family story. Idk...It would explain a lot. If that's so, I wish them health and happiness.

Again, you don't own a global truth.

As I said, you are in NO way helping serve anyone here but your own ego.

Try helping others instead. It's much more rewarding.

Best of luck.



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Kev Says:
 
Sara - I am 57 years old. I had collected SSDI for 12+ years for chronic pain issues. I returned to work after participating in a state-funded rehab program - part of my program was becoming a licensed social worker who specializes in treatment of Subtance Use Disorder. Drug-seeking behavior is painfully obvious.

I was and am treated appropriately with the correct medications at the correct doses. My insurance is partially state-funded and Medicare (I cannot afford Part B). Having said that, my decision was to trust the doctors treating me rather than come to a Chat Forum and specify that I need Norco at a certain dosage level and I am having trouble finding a prescriber. YOU don't get to decide what medications you receive since YOU don't have a medical license or a license to dispense controlled substances. Norco, Vicodin, Anexsia, (all of the hydrocodone/acetaminophen combo drugs) are right on the verge of being moved from Schedule III to Schedule II, which will mean: 0 Refills, max of a thirty day supply, and face-to-face appointments with the prescriber to renew the prescription. Currenlty, Schedule III substances can be called in by phone and are refillable for up to 6 months. Kiss those days goodbye - and put the blame squarely where it belongs - on drug-seekers like you ...
That being said, I was pleased to read that the FDA is approving a device that will definitively show whether a person is actually in pain or just saying s/he's in pain. The device measures the body's natural pain response - so the pill-seekers will soon need to find another scam to run to get their drugs. There's a difference between "drugs" and :"medicines" - it's obvious and shouldn't need explaining.

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sara Says:
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kjb-are YOU clear that many people have been on state health programs who for NONE of what you mentioned except nerve blocks which are allowed once or twice a year?

And that they don't have the money to pay privately?

A weekly massage and chiropractic visit is $150 where I live. I don't have $600 a month.

You sound quite privileged or maybe YOUR pain doesn't make you want to scream for hours or days at a time.

When I wake up at 3 in the morning from writhing in pain while sleeping, will YOU pay for those folks and 24 hr/day holistic Pain relief???

you are so arrogant, trying to school others here. Don't you think we burnt up what money we had on ALL forms of help?

Or that we still arent? MY DOCTOR supports my approach. She's a pain management specialist, 25 years in practice.

When you've got that experience, I'll take my advice from you...

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JAM Says:
 
KJB #65 I thought in the same way as you did that all these people don't have severe chronic pain problems and just want pain pills. That was until I moved to a different state and having a hard time finding a doctor who is willing to help. I have had back problem since 1987 and have been though the surgery's the shots the PT the different medication. At first those things helped and I have been beyond that for the last 12 years. I finally started to get good pain control with MS-Contin. I have been on the same dose for over ten years. I am taking my medication because pain that is verified per my last MRI I have severe advanced DDD (exact words), moderate foraminal and spinal canal stenosis and that is just my lumber area. You are lucky to have someone who will prescribe the medications you need so you can function the best you are able to. The way thing are going today you may very well be in the very same boat as everyone here is if your doctor retires, moves or decides that they do not want to be on the DEA list to be watched closely anymore.

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sara Says:
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Kev - at my age, I worked nearly 40 years into the system before becoming injured 2 years ago.

I AM the taxpayer. What are you, 20 something? I funded my own benefits. I deserve them. It's my right.

When you grow up, Medicare will be there for you because your elders have it fully funded.

Medicare is insurance I paid into MY ENTIRE LIFE. I'm due it.

When you pay premiums for your insurance, do the your medical bills get paid?

You have deductible and copay. So does Medicare.

Hate some more... you're just young and don't understand. I feel very sorry for you.

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sara Says:
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Sub- you just don't get it...

At 55, I get Medicare June 1 and lose both my old insurance and doctor as her office doesn't accept Medicare.

Through years of having tried oxycodone, morphine, methadone at her suggestion, I settled for the LEAST intrusive drug, Norco.

I don't like being high. I just want to function daily. MY DOCTOR AGREES WITH ME ABOUT MY CHOICE.

I REQUESTED this drug break to see if I could live with simple Neurontin. Unfortunately, she says my body in this much pain without relief is too stressful and SHE wants me back on Norco.

But she's a pain management specialist and because she's excellent, she gets many more referrals than she has to give. SHE'S TOO BUSY TO CHECK APPT. WAIT LISTS FOR ME. and I understand that.

So, MY DOCTOR said she would do her due diligence in finding a referral without a 4 month wait list.

She also suggested that I reach out and see if other seniors had a good doctor with a shorter wait list and SHE would be happy to refer for me by June 1. We have teamed ALL my care for years and it would be a gift to find someone like her.

That's what I THOUGHT I was doing when I found this site. I don't need the whole world to know my story. I just need a specialist who takes Medicare as time is running out.

If you can understand, great. If you're just here to hate and are arrogant enough to be that rude with no information of another, you're just mean-spirited..... I give all on here the respect to assume they know their lives. Until they say some stupid ish like you did, at least.

So this is my last effort. Now you understand how exhausting it is for people in pain to deal with people like you. Either be helpful or take your ball and play elsewhere. We old ladies have no tolerance for your rudeness and arrogance.

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Sub Says:
 
I find KJB and Kevin's comments are right on the money. I have a "helpful" suggestion for Sara: Just go to any large city. Hang out near a methadone clinic. You'll find your "doctor" quickly. That would be the person whispering "perks, vikes" ... Of course, you may pay a bit more, and no insurance will be accepted...

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Kevin Says:
 
Comment #52 clearly displays sara's doctor shopping. Sara, who paid for your previous visits? Medicare (e.g. the taxpayers)? Probably ...

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KJB Says:
 
Sara- Despite your statements that I am being "hurtful", saving someone from an unnecessary addiction to opiates is actually being proactive. I assume you've heard of the word "prevention" as it relates to drug addiction? People here who are soliciting names of doctors willing to prescribe x # of mg of (fill in your favorite substance) ARE in, in fact, med seeking. It's quite obvious that many have tried to manipulate (unsuccessfully) physicians into obtaining Rx's they do not need. In desperation, they turn to web sites like this, and likely get extremely frustrated when the admins of this site block out the replies from people who have found "candy man" doctors. Chronic pain is not to be taken lightly; neither is doctor-shopping, drug seeking, or opiate/opioid addiction. When you hit up 12 docs and not a single one thinks you need these kinds of meds, maybe it's time to look at things like CBT, TENS units, acupuncture, massage therapy, chiropractors, steroid injections, nerve blocks, NSAIDs ... shall I go on? Or are 8 non-addictive alternatives to narcotics sufficient? Perhaps you should re-examine your need to defend people soliciting "legal drug dealers" ...

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sara Says:
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KJB- again, judgement without understanding is harmful.

If you don't like what's asked and you're OK with your situation, you're hurting, not helping by calling people names without knowing them.

Perhaps you should find another place to be hurtful.

People here are in enough pain.

I'm done wasting time on you as well...

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sara Says:
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Kev-that was my point. It was YOU who said that it should be otherwise.

If you're not helping folks here, you're passing judgement.

I'm done with you and this conversation. No one is really interested in you thinking that you own the truth.

Leave us to help and support each other.

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Kev Says:
 
People here are NOT looking for a "doctor". They apparently are looking for someone to legally hook them up with strong opiate medications that other doctors have apparently decided are not in their best judgment. When one looks for a doctor, he or she probably wouldn't come on line, state the specific drug and dose they want, provide the geographical area in which he or she lives, and designate the distance he or she will travel. That's called an attempt at SELF-prescribing. These "sufferers" need to be reminded that they don't have a license to practice medicine. And that practicing medicine does not equate to telling the doctor what and how much you need of an addictive drug. In the event that I seem unwavering in my opinion, I would encourage anyone to look at the statistics about deaths in the USA caused by accidental prescription narcotic overdoses. Then I would encourage people to try to find a legitimate reason to provide with the fact that the USA, which represents 5% of the earth's population, consumes 85% of the pharmaceutical opiates and opioids manufactured in the world.

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Kevin Says:
 
Your "perhaps" about my insurance situation (Medicare Part D) and whether I experience chronic pain (which I do ...) are way out of line. This is a FORUM TO DISCUSS MEDS AND CHRONIC PAIN... what it is NOT is a place to solicit names of doctors willing to dole out a person's drug of choice. Like it or not, neither you nor I have medical licenses or DEA numbers - and we therefore need to be able to trust a physician's judgment. When the physician says "No OxyContin" or "Sorry that's in on the morphine dose increase" there is usually a darn good reason.

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Kevin Says:
 
Sara - Even before the ACA, all Schedule II meds (most pain meds) could only be prescribed at a max of one month supply. That's nothing new - one month, no refills. Been the law since 1970 when the Controlled Substance Act was enacted. So, yeah - we've had 44 yrs to get used to that particular regulation.

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KJB Says:
 
BTW I DO have chronic pain ... and because I adhere to the opiate contract I have signed with my doctor, and use the same pharmacy monthly, I don't encounter any problems obtaining my OxyContin. Of course, I do submit to the blood level diagnostics and UA's when asked ...

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KJB Says:
 
Avoiding an addiction - whether you care to accept it or not - IS helpful.. What is NOT helpful is people requesting names of doctor from whom they can get the specific medications that they have self-prescribed..... if you can't handle that, perhaps it is YOU that should considering "going away" - maybe to a drug rehab.

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Lisa in Mn Says:
 
CeeCee, could you PLEASE share information with me, I live in St. Paul Park, just had my 3rd lumbar surgery, and thee are not many drs willing to write! I am miserable!!

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sara Says:
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Kevin and KJB- MY insurance changed with the ACA. I CA, a doctor can't write for more than a 30 day supply without a visit.

I have NEVER abused my meds. I'm not an addict and most people here arent.

If you don't have chronic pain, why are you here? What are you contributing to help?

I am going on 8 weeks without meds and have tried every drug option she's suggested these years. She's clearly charted every horrid side effect, some sent me to the ER!!

Don't insult other members when perhaps you have the luxury of job insurance and you got lucky and your meds work.

Not that I have to justify myself to you.

Your judgment isn't helpful and others have different lives.

If you can't help, just go away...

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Kev Says:
 
There must be some reason why your doctor is not willing to provide you with enough medication to cover the 4-month wait. Or some reason s/he hasn't referred you to a hospital that can continue your current meds. Like - perhaps a revocation of a DEA license? Docs that excessively write Rx's under suspicious circumstances do get their licenses pulled. True pain management docs - regardless of the number of prescriptions for narcotics they right - don't lose their license. Perhaps it's YOU that needs to think more clearly (when your opiate haze wears off maybe) about your own situation and the situation of others. Med seeking isn't pretty to watch in person ... it's pathetic to see it in writing.

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