How To Get Off Suboxone (Page 8)

Im Marina Im 24 years old and a mother of 2 beautiul little boys. From the years 2006-2007 i was heavily addicted to Oxy 80 and eventually started doing herion. I got help in sep.2007 at a methadone clinic, it worked for as long as i was on the methadone i had NO relapse's. In June 2009 i was completly off of the methadone that first day that i was on 0Mgs I went through extreme withdrawls i went through things that i would never wish upon my worst enemy! i stayed that way for a day and a half and decided to go to a suboxone doctor. He put me on 32 mgs a day which i thought was pretty high of a dose but he explained to me that methadone withdrawls was worst then any other withdrawls. so i trusted him. Now when i go to see him every month i pretty much beg for him to start the weining process and start lowering me and he pretty much refuses. After months of being on 32mgs a day he finally started tapering me down slowly, i never really thought any thing of it till now but i realized he's keeping me on the suboxne for as long as posible so that he can get my $200.00 a month. all he is, is a legal drug dealer bc now im highly addicted to the suboxone. I recently had to go a few days with out my suboxone bc i didnt have the money to see him and i went through hell. i thought methadone withdrawl was bad OMG there is no comparison. i wanted to either use which i havent done in years or rip my face off lol its funny now but it definatley wasnt funny a few days ago while i was feeling that way! So i spoke to a good friend whos going through the same thing and he told me that they just came out with a new pill to get you off suboxone. I just want to know if that's true. I tryed googleing it but i cant find any thing. If you have heard of this new pill please respond or if you even have a good way to get off soboxone as painless and posible... thanx

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Please let me know your secret, I am down to 8, 8mg pills, cannot afford to buy anymore and just sick of it all, I don't want to be a slave to anything anymore. I have managed to get myself down to 2mg a day but can't seem to go any lower without feeling like s***. I have to work and am alone with 2 teenagers who depend on me

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I'm in the same boat. After 16 days of the runs, rls, cramps, ill etc, things aren't getting better. Before subutex, was on methadone, opana and fentynl for 12 years. I thought the methadone wd's were bad!! Nothing compared to this!!

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Am going to subutex Dr. Tomorrow to report all the failures and issues I am having trying to "taper" off this evil drug. I am curious to see his next mode of action if any will be. will post.

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Look at my previous posts about a bridge that will ease you into he withdrawls. It's not easy getting off but it's worth it.. It really takes 30 days to get off. Meantime helped me as a bridge. Let me know if anyone has questions.

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Thank u, am researching and trying to get Kratom too. I was told by a top methadone clinic in Fl, how these drugs rob u of nutrients. They give vitamins and supplements via IV as they say the body doesn't absorb them through the stomach. Makes sense. Will look into the book. Thank u. U say after 30 days, u felt better?

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30 days is most withdwrals are gone. You do start to feel better after 15 but certain withdrawls linger. I want to help encourage anyone attempting to get off subs because it is more difficult then most people understand. Less than 5% of all dependent users get off... I want you to be in that 5%.. That Stat is what motivated me to get off...
I have also known individuals to use tramadol as a bridge as they are getting off to reduce withdrawals for the first 20 days however one must be very careful to use the minimum because Tramadol can be a very difficult med to get off because the withdrawals are very Psychological plus physical. I would only recommend using it the first 10-14 days to help with the intense withdrawals.
I had to continue my profession while getting off and anything relief was good.

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Well, just got back from my pain / addiction Doc. As I explained all the issues trying to get off Subutex, his first response was, "I told you how dangerous and bad that stuff can be!!" Then the next sentence he tells me, "wow!!, you're brain must really be messed up / addiction damaged from the decades of Narcotics!" As I thought to myself, Duh!! Why am I seeing you? The next sentence was, "do you want to try Tramadol?" I explained that 15 years ago was addicted to that, has seizures etc, the Doc then told me to continue taking trying to reduce as much as I can. Duh? I then asked him about Kratom. He said he never heard of it. Oh well, wish me luck.

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This girl I'm dating is on Suboxone and every time she takes it at night/afternoon, it is so obvious. She slurrs her words and is visibly messed up. Its best if she can take it in the morning so it is in her system throughout the day, but if it starts to leave her system in the middle of the night, she'll get super restless and toss and turn, sweating, until she takes another little sliver. Its a total bummer and we are both pretty nervous about what will happen when she quits all together.

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Well, all I can suggest is make the slivers smaller when taking so it doesn't make you high, but will need to take when Restless Leg Symptoms get bad. Neurontin is supposed to help this. I wish your girl the best of luck as I still can't kick this evil drug! I never get high from it, been taking Narcotics so long / brain so messed up just don't. That may be a good sign...I found that breaking a 2 mg pill in half, then 1/3's with pill cutter. I read a post that if you break up an 8 mg pill, it usually crushes. The suggestion I liked was to {edited for safety reasons}. Good luck!!! I am with you! I wish these drug companies would post all this bad crap!

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Marina I'm so sorry but why did you come off methadone in the first place?!? There's NO reason to detox from methadone, none. A person can use it to get through life as the human they once were before heroin. Why unplug yourself from it? Oh well, could it be outside pressure, i.e. "Are you still on that stuff?" Look, the next time someone says methadone is just one exchange of a drug for another I'll agree and patiently explain the benefit of exchanging the death drug for the life-returning one. Simple. We're chemically-based humans, we have endorphin balances that NEVER come back after an opiate addiction, never. Methadone returns that level we ALL need of seratonin, dopamine, neuros, all we need to make sure a gust of wind doesn't feel like pieces of glass ripping our skin off. You lose this balance when you use heroin instead of your natural opiates. Methadone returns them to you, synthetically, so why the heck would anyone stop taking it? Sure, youc an try to detox and see if you can live, even get on subs, but in my 40 years on methadone hydrochloride I've NEVER met ONE SOUL who successfully kicked heroin and never slipped back. I'm the only one I know who did that, and it's in part because of the chemical modality of all the treatment options I used, like therapy and supporting people. You left methadone, you got on something worse, and it's not even your fault - the information is misguided, just as it once was about methadone (dolophine) but frankly, dear, all I see for you as a viable answer is GET BACK ON METHADONE AND STAY THERE.

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The claim that our Chemical/Hormonal makeup won't ever return to balance/normal is one of the biggest fallacies being passed on from Doctor to Patient..Patient to Patient..and now integrated throughout the Opiate dependent community.. that statement alone makes a slave of everyone that believes it and dependent. Most people are built with a inate desire to have control of their lives have pride deep down inside that will eventually kick in that being a slave to anything is not natural..
The previous statement is false and the reason it's such a travesty is that Opiates are hard enough to kick with all of the support and desire in the world (which is rare). Take a more normal situation now with varying support, a body/mind that is scared to death of life without the "medicine" and add to it a Empirical fact that your hormonal system will never recover and you will be addicted dependent for life until you die... No matter what. This is a huge factor in people chose the harder illegal dirt that ruins millions of lives and eventually kills many of them.
The Great news is that your system can and will get back to normal. Your synapses can be retrained. Your hormones stabilized and balanced with Nutrition, Diet, exercise,, consulting, and the major factor (and most difficult/painful)...TIME being clean letting your body fix itself.
Our body's through years and years of improvement is the most amazing machine conceivable, divinely originated and still very misunderstood.. A great example is for the last 100 years it was a known fact brain cells could regenerate and once you killed them by drugs, etc they will never regrow... It's now proven that brain cells can and do regenerate!!!!!
This is not an attempt to motivate everyone to get off opiates right away. Everybody does respond differently to recovery and the time that it takes for it to be back to "normal" be it 6 months, 12 months,.. years.. Everyone is at a different stage in their dependency and if you aren't trully ready (in so many ways) trying to quit can throw you in a much worse direction.
Basically the moral of this drawn out story is that Our bodies, at a cellular/hormonal level can and will recuperate with time and there is light at the end of the tunnel which is a hope of regular and normal drug free life.

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The claim that our Chemical/Hormonal makeup won't ever return to balance/normal is one of the biggest fallacies being passed on from Doctor to Patient..Patient to Patient..and now integrated throughout the Opiate dependent/medical community.. that statement alone makes a slave of everyone that believes it and dependent. Most people are built with an innate desire to have control of their lives have pride deep down inside that will eventually kick in that being a slave to anything is not natural..
The fatalist statement that you're forever opiate dependent is false and and a major travesty.. Such a travesty because Opiates are hard enough to kick with all of the support and desire in the world (which is rare). Take a more normal situation with varying support, a body/mind that is scared to death of life without the "medicine" and add to it an Empirical fact that your hormonal system will never recover and you will be addicted dependent for life until you die... No matter what. This person is now robbed of hope, robbed of having faith of a better life. Faith/Hope is solely a religious principle but the principle of action and power in all intelligent beings. Removing hope/faith in these individuals is a key factor in their course to go in the direction of harder/illegal dirt/drugs that ruin millions of lives and eventually kills many of them.
The Great news is that your system can and will get back to normal. Your synapses can be retrained. Your hormones stabilized and balanced with Nutrition, Diet, exercise,, consulting, and the major factor (and most difficult/painful)...TIME being clean letting your body fix itself.
Our body's through years and years of improvement is the most amazing machine conceivable, divinely originated and still very misunderstood.. A great example is for the last 100 years it was a known fact brain cells could regenerate and once you killed them by drugs, etc they will never regrow... It's now proven that brain cells can and do regenerate!!!!!
This is not an attempt to motivate everyone to get off opiates right away. Everybody does respond differently to recovery and the time that it takes for it to be back to "normal" be it 6 months, 12 months,.. years.. Everyone is at a different stage in their dependency and if you aren't truly ready (in so many ways) trying to quit can throw you in a much worse direction.
Basically the moral of this drawn out story is that Our bodies, at a cellular/hormonal level can and will recuperate with time and there is light at the end of the tunnel which is a hope of regular and normal drug free life.
Btw.. I personally over came years of Fentynol Which then was on suboxone for 5 years. Suboxone was a miracle drug for me at the time.. But eventually there grew a desire,a need, a penchant, a desperation and then a full battle to get off.. The catalyst to me getting off was when my doctor told me that my nervous system wouldn't go back to normal and that it wasn't possible to get off suboxone.. He then said actually I haven't had one patient get off suboxone... I of course new deep inside he was wrong and it was possible... to anyone doubting it is possible.. I've done it, I have friends that I now know have got back to normal and many many more i'm getting to know..

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subsukurpotential i believe fully what you ARE saying. that iz the main reason i didnt want to.stop but deep inside something was telling me otherwise. as a Christian who knows that God is thd creator and can regenerate as well as create youd think i wouldnt give into the lies. but i did. how did you stop? im so desperate to stop.cuz for.6 years now i havent been able to have communion with the Holy SPirit cause the subs block me completely. im greatful for your post. it came just when i needed it. God bless you

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All I can say is Wow!!! Who in the world would want to stay on Methadone the rest of your life?!! Methadone is the reason I, yes I, decided to stop all the opiates!! I have Never NEVER taken an illegal drug in my life. I was prescribed 120 mg Methadone, 75 Duragesic, and 30 mg of Opana at once, + 7.5 Percocets from the same doctor, the same one who I saw for 14 years! As my tolerance went up, so did the amount I was told to take. I decided to wean off the mess as I could barely function with them and did not get much of any high from them. I was able to slowly wean off all but Methadone. I found that I was having difficulty "concentrating" on Methadone before tapering. I could read a paper and focus for only so long before I would get "adjutated". When I tried to seek professional detox around me, 9 of 10 places refused to treat me saying how horrible methadone was to detox from. The one that would take me required that I be on less than 2 mg of Methadone at first. Then they changed their mind. So no I Totally dis-agree with the *diot telling you to stay on Methadone. For me, it just complicated my issues. Around me, most pain care doctors Now stay away from it. The only thing I can tell you after 14 years of being on it for pain control is that your tolerance just keeps going up. I was happy to be free of Methadone, but now have the Subutex issues, of which are probably about 30 times worse. I also found Subutex to be somewhat mental as well as physical. For 1 week I found myself having to take it every 6-7 hours before I was like, "no you can go x more hours or not take it to be "comfortable". Thank you Subssuckurpotential... I am determined to win, but take it one day at a time. If any of you know of a good detox program or better way to get off Subutex, I would like to know it. I've only found one in Florida. Also, not sure why my last post was cut, as it was my Doctor's suggestion which I read from past posts.

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Hi I just wanted to let you know that I have tried the withdrawal ease and it did nothing.I payed a hundred bucks for it because u was so desperate. I hope you haven't bought it yet! It's definitely a wast of money .im down to 1 mg of sub and have been doing this a week and tomm I'm going to go down to .25. I'm probably going to buy kratom powder use gabapenti
N and tramadol for my with drawls . Good luck to you and may god help all of us addicts be set free!!!! :)))

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Les Nicole, I heard the withdrawal ease was no good. You said you were taking 2 mg a day. I'm assuming 1/2 twice a day. Going to 1/4 a day seems too fast. For me, the bad withdrawals came after breaking in half, then 1/3's. Anything less than that was bad for me. Also, be very careful with the powder. I took 1 tsp. before bed and had the next 3 days of feeling horrible. I believe I should have stopped the Subutex for at least 24 hr first. The kratom seemed to limit the withdrawals, but gave me bad headaches, body aches, etc. I figured I will get lower on my Subutex dose, wait 24 hrs, then try it again. The Kratom powder I bought was Bali. Ps. Keep in mind we are all different and the powder did somewhat seem to work. This alone gives me more hope. Best of luck! Z. Remember go slow and we will beat this drug.

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Please tell me I have a 30 day supply of suboxone......

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Please tell me I have 30 2 mg strips I want to be done p,ease

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Here is my Email address
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Please send me your info on how to get off subs in 7-10 days I have 15 2 mg strips I am ready to carry on with my life
God bless hope to hear from you soon

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Obviously you are reading the very old top post.... There are no magic pills to get off Suboxone (what a bad joke!) and I myself are still trying to kick it... Good luck... Any questions, ask... Z

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