How To Get Off Suboxone (Page 7)

Im Marina Im 24 years old and a mother of 2 beautiul little boys. From the years 2006-2007 i was heavily addicted to Oxy 80 and eventually started doing herion. I got help in sep.2007 at a methadone clinic, it worked for as long as i was on the methadone i had NO relapse's. In June 2009 i was completly off of the methadone that first day that i was on 0Mgs I went through extreme withdrawls i went through things that i would never wish upon my worst enemy! i stayed that way for a day and a half and decided to go to a suboxone doctor. He put me on 32 mgs a day which i thought was pretty high of a dose but he explained to me that methadone withdrawls was worst then any other withdrawls. so i trusted him. Now when i go to see him every month i pretty much beg for him to start the weining process and start lowering me and he pretty much refuses. After months of being on 32mgs a day he finally started tapering me down slowly, i never really thought any thing of it till now but i realized he's keeping me on the suboxne for as long as posible so that he can get my $200.00 a month. all he is, is a legal drug dealer bc now im highly addicted to the suboxone. I recently had to go a few days with out my suboxone bc i didnt have the money to see him and i went through hell. i thought methadone withdrawl was bad OMG there is no comparison. i wanted to either use which i havent done in years or rip my face off lol its funny now but it definatley wasnt funny a few days ago while i was feeling that way! So i spoke to a good friend whos going through the same thing and he told me that they just came out with a new pill to get you off suboxone. I just want to know if that's true. I tryed googleing it but i cant find any thing. If you have heard of this new pill please respond or if you even have a good way to get off soboxone as painless and posible... thanx

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the study full it's being done by Brown university (Providence, R.I.) I told everyone here I'll keep posting , it starts in January our brians have created new receptor site so when the brian FINALLY starts to make normal levels of dopamine the brian will only create enough for normal # of sites, hance we feel like crap... thing about creating a detox journal keep ya posted. depend in R.I.

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Hello my name is Debbie. I have been on suboxon for about 2 years. The Dr. Started me off at 2 a day. I thank God I only started at 1/2 a day, and never did any higher dose. I now want 2 get off the suboxon . I googled how and it brought me 2 a medication that is herbal. It's under $100.00 a bottle, and I'm going 2 order it t-day. It's called withdrawal-ease, and the number is 1-888-732-6684. I'm praying it works. I just thought u may want 2 try it. Good luck

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I did try withdrawal ease without much success. It is just all natural herbs and vitamins, may you will have more success than I did. Good luck to you.

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I'm reposting this incase it can presently help anyone.

I'm very sorry to hear what you have went through. Opiates are a very slippery slope and it isn't easy to kick but it is possible. I know the feeling of wanting to come off of suboxone and no longer dependent. I still very very blessed to have come off of them.
The first step is that I highly recommend this book (End your addicion now -A Proven supplemental nutritional program.) You can find it on amazon.
Addiction to Opiate(Along with most chemicals) creates a significant Hormonal defeciency in your brain. The author has a proven list of supplements that will help your brain create the Hormones that you are lacking. I Highly recommend Using his supplement program for at least a week or two before tapering. However, time is of the essence when coming off so If you don't have that time simply start the nutritional program right away as you are tapering. I'm repasting a previous post I made shortly after getting off of Suboxone. I hope this helps you. This isn't completly pain free way ( I don't believe there truly exists one). Less than 5 % of all people addicted to Opiates ever get off!! That was a scary statistic and I promised myself I would be one of the 5% that did. That was a big motivating factor. Also, Most Doctors will advise Opiate dependent patient that they "NEED" to stay on Suboxone because your body and/or nervous systems won't always allow you to get off. That is an "OUTRIGHT" lie. Our Nervous system, hormonal system, etc will go back to normal and fairly fast considering.

Krantom was very helpful for me to get off and even Lopermide(Immodium) 12 mg.


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I didn't give my history because I promise it's very similar to all of you.After pain treatments (2years)from a car accident everything from pcets to fentanyl lollipops 3 a day I was on health death bed with doc prescribing more meds... I finally quite going and walked into a suboxone doc.... My life turned around almost immediately.. However 4 years I was still on sub and feeling the fatigue and the constant doc appts which normally included a urine test.I'm a young professional not abusing other thing so I hated having to go through it.Docs had no real way to get off subs and my last appt was when I asked this very seasoned pain doc ask if any of his patients have ever gotten off subs... He was silent and then said no.he had one patient try and is still on 2 Mgs a month..... I was inspired o find this method which does work. It's not painless however have not missed one day of work and am thrilled to be off subs for 25 days... I have my energy back and lifes color and joy is back... I can actually pickuip my 11 month old first thing in the morning dull of energy an excited for the day.Don't use this to Play with going on or off!! It will turn out bad! Our bodies were made to deal with our problems naturally.Let gods greatest creation do it's job.... By the way.. You need emotional and inspiring lliterature to read because they are the best endorphins..Read your respective religions literature... I found anything published by he Mormon church trully inspiring.don't try anything else their to taper. It will add opiatesuckurpotential

I was on subs so I had to taper to 1/8th of pill for 3 days.
What you'll need: Krantom, L-Tyrosine-Vitamins-Liquid Chloropyll, Vitamin D, Clonodine. (Very Important-read End your addiction-Nutritional supplement program.
I could only find Krantom in few Smoke shops-
problems. Only get Krantom-Package of Pills, Package of crushed leaves to chew, maybe the extract... I didn't find it was worth it.
Day 1 3-4 pills of Krantom(captain Krantom) If Withdrawls are not bad then only use what you need
Day 2 3-4 Pills Also chew crushed leaves as needed. only take enough for withdrawls symptoms to go away
Day 3 3-4 Pills, Also Chew Crused leaves if needed Maybe a little extract under the tongue if Withdrawls are bad
Day 4 Same as Day 3 however if withdrawls aren't bad start tapering Krantom down
Day 5 2-3 pills A little curshed leaves
Day 6 2 Pills, I had run out of leaves and extract so only pills
DAy 7 Start tapering of Krantom even more maybe 2 pills
Day 8 Try not to take any all day
-I've read that some people took 3-4 weeks with Krantom. I wanted off sooner and didn't want a Krantom Dependency. This can happen
-Every morning take 2-- mgs of Ltyrosine +other supplements), Take vitamins, eat breakfast, try to work out Follow Drink a lot of Water, A couple of bottles of water mix a lot of liquid Chloropyll, I used it a lot.
Through out day stay busy, drink water, eat a lot if you can--Liquid Chloropyll
-Nights for the first week can be hard so try to have clonodine for sleeping or other sleeping pills -- Lots of melatonin.
-People recommend Benzos but I think that can add to a different dependecy.
-Krantom has a 3-6 hour hal-life, Suboxone has up to a 72 hourhalf life. Some claim csubosone can stay in youfor months so the smaller you take before tapering the better.

Read more: Addiction, Recovery Forum - Getting Off Opiates w Krantom it's worth it.

Getting down to the lowest dose of suboxone does help. If you can get down to 1mg per day that would be good. It was hard for me.,. I got down to about 2 mg before I stopped.
Most withdrawls gone after 10-14 Days. Energy was still somewhat low but survivable. 30 Days felt soo much better. Lopermide 10-12 tablets for the first 5 days of withdrawl. Loud music in my ears during emotional/anxiety moments seem to help a lot...

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I just want to share my experience with subs to give anyone hope in getting off of them. I have successfully weaned myself off of suboxone before with very little discomfort. (I am now on it again to get off of methadone)I am a longtime opiate/heroin addict, and my recovery has not been without relapse, like most of us. First off let me say, methadone is the DEVIL. If you are reading this and thinking of entering a meth maint program, DON'T DO IT. I tapered alllll the way down to 1mg, in pain the entire 6 mos of weening, (not to mention it makes you fat, even normally thin ppl like me) and after 2 weeks off meth I was still in withdrawal, so I got on subs again. The trick to getting off them is doing it yourself, bc the drs don't know s!%*t about it, as maaaaany posts prior have indicated. First off, no one should be taking more then 8mgs a day. There is no benefit beyond that dose and that's how it was meant to be taken. If your dr says otherwise, get a new dr. I have basically cut my own dose every day or every other day by a miniscule amount, a half a mg or so. Until you get down to a half mg or so. And then I would wait until I started feeling bad, and I would take the smallest piece you could break off. A quarter mg probably. Sometimes every other day. Until I didn't need it. Don't get me wrong, its still not fun, you have to want to do it. You will experience mild discomfort at times. But nothing like actual wd. Also it is so very important u do let it completely dissolve under your tongue so you get the maximum effect from the minimum amount. Good luck to everyone

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this is so ridiculous!!! I have seriously been trying to get off sub. I been tapering down to half a mg a day. when I dont do it I have no energy and RLS is terrible and I have young kids that I totally need energy for and no family to help me so its literally impossible to go to a rehab let alone a detox center. what to do???? frustrated!!!! ugh!!!

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How do u get off subsHow

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Hi, I am .25mg of 1m of suboxone and want to quit can I use tramadol to help with WDs and flexaril as well?

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Hi
I am one my first day with out sub .25 of 1mg do you think its ok to use tramadol occasionally and klonopin?
ALL YOUR HELP IS GREATLY APPRECIATED.
Patient1117

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I think tramodol would mitigate the withdrawal symptoms and help. Be careful to only use enough to reduce symptoms.. You don't want to have to go through withdrawl symptoms for tramodol afterwards. They can be very severe physically and mentally.. Try to get 4 weeks off suboxone. That is important.

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I have tried that and sorry to say its a total waste of money .Try the Kratom and tramadol.Nuerontin wich is gabapentin also works well! Good luck !

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Thank you Jared for all your help. I hope you will stay with me through the next few weeks as I know I will need support of others that have gone through the same thing.
One more thing I have read that you can also do this to help with wd's let me know what you think. I have been told that since I am on .025 sub that I skip a day than take more sub than skip 2 days take another piece skip 3 days take a piece then skip 4 days then jump. What are you thoughts. Thank you so much for responding to my blog and again I hope you stay with me.

God Bless you

Sincerely,
Patient 1111

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Hello JR
I hope you read this post. I am on .025 of sub and I take lithuim for bipolar along with klonopin as needed and trazadone as need. I also have tramadol, flexural and requip. can you give me specific regiment that you took to get off suboxone,

I really appreciate all your help and God Bless

Patient

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It's not all in your head. sorry to be so upfront, but by saying that could potentially scare off many individuals who really believe they are ready and motivated to get off suboxone. After being on it for years, I used something called Kratom> It is a tropical plant, that you can use for around 2-4 weeks. It takes away the binding of the suboxone on the varioius pain receptors(mu, delta, and kappa) Suboxone is not something to think of as just in your head when dealing with withdrawals.

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If you're going to or trying to make people who are taking suboxone looking to find a taper program feel even more nervous and anxious, you're doing a good job. I would stop messing with people's minds as it doesn't do any good. You are actually harming them moreso. What this individual refuses to tell you which I WILL, is something called Kratom. yes, it will help, is a plant, is legal to get, and I can't stand forums where people lack any empathy for others.

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i apologize, I scrolled down and later saw you wrote a detailed post about how you used Kratom to help you get off suboxone. What you said does shed light for many who do not know about things like Kratom, and how truly helpful it can be. one thing also, at least for me after being on sub for five years, and being off for a year now, is that you have to be in the right mentality psychologically and physically to truly gain the benefits of using Kratom. I know some who yet do not understand they just aren't ready to get off. Know matter how much you or I can inform those suffering that literally say they want off suboxone, we can only be advocates through our words and people like us are emphathetic in wanting to help others. With time, hopefully more awareness about long term suboxone and the potential dangers that it could lead to being on it long term will be exposed. I apologize again for the hasty remark I originally posted. You seem like a good dude.

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Hi Douglas
Many thanks for your thoughts. This is my plan an please let me know what you think. I was going to skip .025 sub one day then take a .025 then skip two days and take another .025 sub then skip three days take sub then four days take sub. Inbetween I thought I would take klonopin, requip, tramadol only as needed. Please let me know your thoughts.

THANK YOU SOOOO MUCH
Patien

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kratom powder. get it online, not at smoke shops. There ARE and IS good vendors that have the real powder form. that is best used for getting off suboxone as it takes the suboxone's antagonistic and agonistic properties on various pain receptors(unlike what pharm who invented suboxone says, it actually hits and effects other pain recpetors hence Kratom washes away the sub on those too!) tbsn(1-2 x daily first week) try to continue to at most one month. Minor WD's you will suffer, nothing compared to suboxone. Sorry you had issues with the Kratom you sued. the powder is the key.

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Hi Leslie
Well its day two and I dont feel horrible getting off sub yet. This is what I take first thing in the morning I take my 2 300mg lithium 3 600mg neurontin and 2 .5 klonopin and at night I have been taking 2 300mg lithium 4 600mg neurontin 2 .5 klonopin and 2 150mg trazadone. I feel lethargy and that is the worst so far. Hopefully I will not go through hell but if I do I am going to do what it takes to be done with suboxone, Also I ordered Kratom which should be here Wednesday and I purchased imodium as well but have not had to use as of yet. I am going to the bathroom for the first time in years without a laxative so I will wait until that part gets out of hand to start imodium. Anyway thank you so much for your encouraging words and I hope that we chat again. I can use all the help I can get.

Patient1111

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Hi Sub
i am on .025 of 1mg I would love to know how to get off with the least Wds This is my second day without and I am up do to the extreme RLS. PLEASE PLEASE HELP ME.

Truly thank you so much for your response
Patient

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