How To Get Off Suboxone (Page 5)

Im Marina Im 24 years old and a mother of 2 beautiul little boys. From the years 2006-2007 i was heavily addicted to Oxy 80 and eventually started doing herion. I got help in sep.2007 at a methadone clinic, it worked for as long as i was on the methadone i had NO relapse's. In June 2009 i was completly off of the methadone that first day that i was on 0Mgs I went through extreme withdrawls i went through things that i would never wish upon my worst enemy! i stayed that way for a day and a half and decided to go to a suboxone doctor. He put me on 32 mgs a day which i thought was pretty high of a dose but he explained to me that methadone withdrawls was worst then any other withdrawls. so i trusted him. Now when i go to see him every month i pretty much beg for him to start the weining process and start lowering me and he pretty much refuses. After months of being on 32mgs a day he finally started tapering me down slowly, i never really thought any thing of it till now but i realized he's keeping me on the suboxne for as long as posible so that he can get my $200.00 a month. all he is, is a legal drug dealer bc now im highly addicted to the suboxone. I recently had to go a few days with out my suboxone bc i didnt have the money to see him and i went through hell. i thought methadone withdrawl was bad OMG there is no comparison. i wanted to either use which i havent done in years or rip my face off lol its funny now but it definatley wasnt funny a few days ago while i was feeling that way! So i spoke to a good friend whos going through the same thing and he told me that they just came out with a new pill to get you off suboxone. I just want to know if that's true. I tryed googleing it but i cant find any thing. If you have heard of this new pill please respond or if you even have a good way to get off soboxone as painless and posible... thanx

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Cookie,
Yes, I stopped suboxone in April of this year. I was on them for exactly 4 months. Prior to that I was hooked on massive quantities of opiates for more than 5 years. Everyone is different, so naturally everyone's recovery will be different. I couldn't get off my DOC no matter how hard I tried. What worked for me was a long, slow taper with the subs. Nighttime was bad for me- until I got the clonidine (non addictive) I would only sleep maybe 30-45 minutes. After the clonidine and a cup of sleepy time herbal tea I started getting 4-5 hours.

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NOgroovin, I'm going to the dr. Wed. I'll let u know what happens, this has to get better. I want to enjoy this weather. Thanks again, you've been a great help.

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Yes I just also was told by my suboxone doctor that when i was ready there is a pill I could take to get off easily!!!

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Tracy, If you find out what that drug is would you please post it. I want off these so bad, I've tapered down really low, but if I don't have even the smallest piece of the sub, I get so sick. If you would be good enough to post that if u hear anything I would appreciate it.tvah

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ok you have got my attention, I had a very bad time with the subs, got down to 1 to 1 1/2mg a day have been sick since day i on these, last month I stopped the subs and started back on norco only 1 10mg a day to avoid the WD of the subs, but now I want to stop the norco HOW? I still have subs 2mg strips, should I go back on them for a few days and stop or should I just suck it up and be sick from not taking the norco? And please tell me what this pill is your are talking about? I do not have a very good sub Dr. and I am really tired off feeling bad all the time. I have been to hell once and have no plans of ever returning there any info you have would be great and good luck to you.

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NoGroovin, I went to the dr. he gave me the Clonidine. What can I expect? I'm so nauseus, spelled wrong, How will this help me? Thanks for taking your time helping me.

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Cookie,

Clonidine will calm your central nervous system. It will help with the restless legs, the anxiety, and the pain. Now, I never felt nauseous but I did have that awful diarrhea forever (I know, TMI, sorry. Lol) so I took the clonidine, Imodium and lots & lots of HOT baths. That and forcing yourself to exercise (even if it's just walking the dogs) will pull you out of this. I can ask around about the nausea if you want. By far the clonidine was the number one thing for me. Good luck. Keep us updated.

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Licheant there are treatment providers in NJ who have great subozone programs if you want to stay on it. I'm not familiar with NY but Jersey has some very topical, up-to-date subozone programs.

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Marina I'd recommend you get back on methadone and have your dosage built-up, as it seems you were never on a reasonable holding dose. After several months you can slowly detox and get on Tramadol, which is non-narcotic and can still subdue your pain. Because of your history you may need to take an opiod longer than a year, before going to Tramadol. I would think about what you really want in life - it's a little, a lot, or none.

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NoGroovin, thanks so much for all your help. I wish I had you here with me. I'm a very anxious person, very nervous, maybe that's why my stomach is acting up. I just wish it was over. Well, I'll keep you updated, when I can. I can't lay in bed all day because of the back pain, which is how all this started. I have a workers comp hearing on June 13 that I have to attend, I'm hoping I'm feeling somewhat better then, it's a really important hearing. Thank you again, you help me so much.

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How ya feeling cookie? A little better everyday?

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I've read every post here and find it frustrating to see how many folks still believe they can kick an addiction without withdrawal symptoms, a little or the whole turkey. When methadone first came out it was called "magic" too, now suboxone is proving to be just as misleading. If you're addicted to a prescribed drug and your life is working, you're attached to a treatment provider or therapist, why detox? I notice most of the folks here have lives of suffering and pain - this is heart-breaking to hear because methadone, for instance, was synthesized to relieve that suffering. Withdrawal is the main cause of relapse - so if something's working, I say find a place for it in your life, work with it, this is not a horrid thing. However, if you can't stand your Rx, If you're ready and your motivation is for you only, you can do it but don't expect miracles of feeling great. Remember, the delicate chemical balance in the brain is altered by opiates and you can't expect to feel great again - but you'll live.

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Hey there NOGroovin, I am finally feeling a some better. It's been a little rough, certainly at night. My legs,omg, I had some lidocaine cream my PM dr, gave me some time ago and I just rubbed it my legs till they were numb, lol. I'm not eating so much, bathroom problems but all in all I think I'll live. Thanks so much for posting. It means alot. I have to care for my 95 year old mother everyday, and I have to be able to get going although hard at times. I have noone else in my life. It's hard some days to get in that shower and get dressed but I do it. Thanks again, I'm sorry I didn't post earlier but wasn't feeling good. Hope you are well.

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so whats the easiest way to get off suboxone without wanting to die? i dont want to be in bed for months..i cant handle that..i've been through that before and i wanted to die. I've been on suboxone for years...i'm down to 1mg, sometimes .5mg...but i can feel when i need to take it..bad..ive never been so terrified in my life..if you go inpatient somewhere will they help you more than you can help yourself? will they give you anything to help with the withdrawls? can i do this at home and survive?

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You've got to taper lower. It's easier to cut the 2mg strips into smaller pieces than the bigger strips. 1 mg is still a pretty high amount to jump from- its awesome that you tapered that low so far though, good job. Start to drop it by about 10% every 10-12 days (or when your body adjusts). When you get down really low it helps to dose twice per day (not double the dose- half the dose two times). If you do it this way the only withdrawal you feel will be while tapering. The actual jump will be a breeze

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NG you're definitely right about clonidone which is also used to help in methadone detox. What I'm stuck on is, why would Marina come off methadone in the first place? She says she was doing fine, things were working. There's no reason a person can't live a decent life as a MMT client We have a Subs program at my treatment provider and unfortunately, the results are dim. I say, if methadone works for you, work with it. It'll always have a biased, negative rap from uneducated folks, so just move on into life even if addicted to methadone. I'm 62 now, over 40 years since I started with dolophine for a heroin habit, and have not ONE SINGLE RELAPSE in all these years. When something works, what dummy would unplug themselves from that treatment modality? Perhaps Marina just wanted to be chemical free. Now she's learning a very hard lesson. Our endorphin balance is so delicately fixed by nature that, as scientific pharma-research has found, any addition or subtraction will affect a person for life. BTW nice of you to share your knowledge.

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Dips, you're right about that. "Slow and steady gets you ready, sticking it through returns you to YOU". Sometimes folks rush in, eager to be chemical free, then think they've failed when they relapse. You're right, it's not a matter of counting days or months, or even hours. Now is the moment, and if you get through it, chances are you'll get through the next one. So, good point.

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You guys keep saying 7-10 days to get off subs...Im on day 12 and still can not sleep at all and very fatigued. I weaned down til below .5 mgs. I dunno, I have friends that have went through withdrawl..It's about a 30 day withdrawl. js..lets keep it honest!

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day 3 of no subs..the first and seconds nights werent too bad..my doc is actually in the hospital so all i have is ativan to sleep which doesnt do much. i think one of the most important things for everyone to try to do is to find a good mood stabilizer..part of whats in the suboxone is a stabilizer..tried risperidal but that made me feel like my heart was gonna explode, and then my doc went into the hospital till monday. I wish i had something to help me sleep better..i feel like i wanna rip my skin off, and bad headaches. The nurse said i should be feeling much better by monday..i'm thinking its about a week for most people.. anything past that is just unstabilized mood..

i really need to try to go for a walk or something..but i cant seem to get myself out of bed :(

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