How Can I Get Subutex Not Suboxone? (Page 19)

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I don't know how to go about this as I am shaking and can barely focus, I need help! Please. I fear that my life is going to end from my abuse of opiates. I am currently taking 250 mgs of oxycontin per day. I have a loving fiance and a stepdaughter that I want to be here for. I sit here with cold sweats, and fear going out just because I may make the fearful turn to the meds. Any and all info on how to obtain Subutex would be much appreciated. This wasn't what I wanted my life to be, and I can not let it end this way..Please help me. I am not a religious man but I pray for help as I am at my wits end with this drug.

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LEANE: The only way to actually "abuse" the Subutex is to inject it. Otherwise there is no real way to abuse either drug. The Naloxone in Suboxone is only in there to keep people from injecting it. And injecting Subutex is BEYOND desperate. Anyone with a legit opioid addiction isn't going to get "high" from Subutex.

I'm glad you are finding the Subutex to be useful. I too had problems with the Naloxone. My medical file says I am allergic to it, It made me feel HORRIBLE!

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First of all many like myself are truly allergic to the naloxone and box is 3x higher than tex In my state and I'm sure it is everywhere else there's a whole separate drug added to it which is not cheap fact

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CRAZYLADY: Yes, there is an additional drug added to the Bupe, but not THAT much. Three times the price is ridiculous. I know that the Naloxone inj. kits that you can get for emergencies contain 3 doses, and those three doses are about $50 bucks for most of us who have insurance. So it isn't a cheap drug. (By comparison, my month's supply of tablet Methadone is about $30) But making the price TRIPLE? That's unfortunate. I still have to think that it's cheaper than buying a month's worth Oxycodone.

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I get bad sweats and compulsive behavior from suboxone. Subutex is a better alternative. But if u plan on just getting high. Well you will ruin it for everyone else. There is a federal movement to ban this drug completely. It will happen it's just a matter of time,when no one can get it.

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OCD: Can you please provide a link or more information to this alleged "federal ban" on Subutex/Suboxone? I work with a leading addiction doctor in our area, and we have not heard of this. So if you can provide some information regarding your claim, I would greatly appreciate it.

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OCD: In fact, the federal government is cracking down on "drug courts" that refuse to let their participants use Subuxone, therefore INCREASING the use of Suboxone for drug addiction.

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Will they offer subtex if you have heart problems I have a pacemaker and episodes of super ventricular tacadia I have an appointment with clean slate this week I am just curious

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me too!! What did you end up doing?? I'm in the sameeee boat!!!

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ONLYME: I'm so sorry, I just saw your question today. Anyway, what happened with that appointment? Did they make you accept Suboxone rather than Subutex? I am curious as to how that went for you. I am not sure if Naloxone has adverse effects for someone with a pacemaker, or for any kind of a heart condition for that matter. Please let me know what happened if you can.

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Hey there Fred I am sorry your going through it buddy hold on and you'll get through it, the answer to this is very simple. A Dr. will prescribe you suboxone by default as it has blockers in it that prevent you from getiing high from the intake of opiates. They will prescribe you subotex if you have an allergic reaction to suboxone or some other medical complication. So if you look up allergic reactions and then allow them to prescribe you suboxone, the next time you see them you can tell them your having these reactions.
Responsibly I should suggest that if you really want to stop get yourself into N.A. or even A.A. I prefer AA although I do not drink. However sitting through a N.A. meeting has always made my cravings worse and most of my relapses have been directly after a N.A.. Addiction is a wide spread problem and people have some very strong feelings on the subject. I find it annoying and irresponsible for so many people to ignore your actual question and make a judgment, and just push their agenda. It is YOUR recovery buddy own it. No guilt, no self hatred just push forward from here. Choosing subutex when you are initially trying to kick is a wise decision there is no reason for you to suffer. When your condition is stabilized then you should try to transition in suboxone. But again you need to remember that guilt and negative feelings are probably going to lead to continued use. There are a ton of different treatment options, impatient is not always the best option especially for those of us who have a family that relies on our income. There is also outpatient and 12 step programs. With 12 step programs you can go about your recovery anonymously. Though the most important thing to recovery is a support network getting a sponsor or a counselor or even a good friend. But that really is a lot to lay on a buddy unless they themselves are also trying to maintain sobriety. Basically you have to hit the reset button in your head and it will take a little time the first couple of weeks are he'll. I am so sorry but that is the truth. But it does get better every day. Chin up though your already doing good just by asking for help. And there is always to talk to about it. Even me I am willing to talk to anyone who is struggling and trying not to use. Good luck Fred, smile, it WILL get better I promise.

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Re: Kaylee (# 2) Expand Referenced Message

What state are u from? I'm pregnant and need to find a Dr to switch me to subutex.

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I'm on Suboxone I have been for 3 years I go to the doctor once a month and I get 60 8 mg I get nauseous and I have had headaches my whole life to where they make me throw up and the Suboxone will sometimes make me get a migraine and I will eventually end up with a horrible headache I just don't know what to say to my doctor. I just want him to switch me to Subutex they work so much better for me and they're not so hard to take [as in the taste] also I just switched my doctor last month because my old doctor was charging me $150 a month to see him I have insurance to cover my Suboxone so I can't say that's the issue but I want to be on Subutex and off of the Suboxone what should I do? what should I say to my doc? Anyone have any answers?

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Re: Verwon (# 1) Expand Referenced Message

Suboxone has never worked for me. It doesn't get rid of any of my issues it just doesn't help at all but the Subutex does I don't know why but it does that's why I need to worry about it

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I feel it will work much better for you, the Subutex. I have seen no real difference between the old and new or ones by new drug makers. I dont care for the tiny 8 mg pills cause they're hard to break up.

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Re: sunshine (# 6) Expand Referenced Message

I know that here in tn if you have hep c and the Dr refuses to give you suboxone he will write you subutex, mainly due to it affecting your liver and kidneys. But tn has some dumb ass rules in order to get subutex. Either u have to be pregnant or breastfeeding (they cut u off when the baby is 6 months to a year old), u have to have a Dr statement saying that you are allergic to the blocker in the suboxone, or have hep c. I've been on subutex for 2 almost 3 years and here in tn no doctor will take me and give me subutex bc I'm not pregnant any longer. I can not take suboxone due to it swelling my throat up, causing stomachaches, and headaches. Good luck to you honey.

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Re: Chuck (# 8) Expand Referenced Message

How? I’m highly allergic to suboxone and need help.

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Re: Ryleigh (# 15) Expand Referenced Message

I know this is super old but I switch between subutex, suboxone and Methadone every few days. I never get sick. Just relief. It is just what I can get my hands on every few days. I wish I could go to rehab and get my s*** together but I have a baby (miraculously not born addicted because I tapered down as much as possible for the last 6 months of my pregnancy and only took subutex), not really sure if that matters. I’m currently on a waiting list for the nearest sub doc. I’ve had my husband take away all of my access to cash because I’m still a sick junkie. A functional one but still. I’m glad I came across this old post. I pray my daughter never ends up like me. A closet junkie. It sucks.

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Re: nicky24 (# 103) Expand Referenced Message

Did you ever find one? I'm close to morristown and I'm looking for one also. Thanks for any info

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Re: Ishmael (# 10) Expand Referenced Message

You're full of it!

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Re: Ron (# 17) Expand Referenced Message

I am so sorry to tell you this, but you have to be at 70 mgs of methadone to be able to switch to suboxone or subutex/buprenorphine. I am at 120 mgs and want to switch to buprenorphine but my dose is too high. The only way is to start coming down slowly. If you are at a clinic they should help you. I am resigning to just taking it. There will eventually be a way to detox people without the hellish experience of a detox. Wish you the best, bro!

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