How Can I Get Subutex Not Suboxone? (Page 17)

I don't know how to go about this as I am shaking and can barely focus, I need help! Please. I fear that my life is going to end from my abuse of opiates. I am currently taking 250 mgs of oxycontin per day. I have a loving fiance and a stepdaughter that I want to be here for. I sit here with cold sweats, and fear going out just because I may make the fearful turn to the meds. Any and all info on how to obtain Subutex would be much appreciated. This wasn't what I wanted my life to be, and I can not let it end this way..Please help me. I am not a religious man but I pray for help as I am at my wits end with this drug.

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All I want is my tramadol back. I took it for many painful years. I was diagnosed in 2009 with fibromyalgia and took it for years until a couple months ago I failed a drug panel for marijuana and now I am utterly sick and in severe pain. How is that right Barbara Tackett at Little River Medical? I didn't do anything wrong. I was in the hospital and I was diagnosed with severe bulb disc in my neck and degenerative disc disease and then all the sudden they take me off my meds and I don't know how much I can take. Please help me, she's out of Myrtle Beach South Carolina and I told her about the medicine they gave me from the hospital and she had actually acted like she forgot what I said and I swear I said it.

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kkh is dead-on correct here & I am outraged, as somebody in suboxone maintenance for almost 6 years, and though i've not taken subutex i am well informed of it, as i have tired of the no-longer, what was excellent therapeutic benefit of suboxone in the film form, which is all i can have covered with my current health plan, and i get regular nasty headaches from the suboxone so i tend to take an exederine shortly after my film dissolves, to try to ward off the headache as best i can before it starts to kick in and escalate.I don't know which is more alarmingly asinine - one being that a doctor misinformed you on the preposterous theory that one can still feel euphoric while on opiates and also taking subutex, or worse yet that you just thought this up yourself, because you sure as heck didn't read this in any pharmacodynamic literature. Both suboxone and subutex are initial for the physical withdrawals of whatever your drug of choice was, after that mere week or so, the rest is ALL ABOUT STAYING IN A COMMITTED CHOICE OF RECOVERY. This is exactly the kind of crap that makes it harder for those of us who choose to use these medications correctly, subjecting us to scrutiny and condescending, snotty attitudes from ignormus pharm techs.

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TAMMY: Just get another doctor! There are some real crap doctors out there, but there are also some excellent ones!

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DANI: Amazing isn't it? I can understand the patients not understanding how Subutex/Suboxone works, but the doctors? I work with a couple of great Addiction Specialists, and they shake their heads when I tell them some of these stories. Buprenorphine is a partial agonist/partial antagonist opioid. Meaning that the Bupe itself can throw you into withdrawals. Meaning that even though Subutex has no Naloxone, it can still screw you up big time if taken at a high enough dose along with opioids. I know this from research AND personal experience. To read about doctors actually prescribing Bupe to someone to whom they have already prescribed full-agonist opioids is just mind blowing to me. Take care Dani.

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Dani you are so right a few bad apples give us all (those of us serious patients) it angers me to no end the craziness I see and hear obout those of us who take suboxone or subtext ..or any other maintanence drug .some of us just can't do it with out this crutch each of us are different what works for one might not work for all what really gets me is those who seek ways around this system to keep this safety net to keep from being dope sick between fixes or calming they are prescribed both subs and opiates get real people if your serious drop the opiates or steel drugs and work on sobriety or get out of the way for those who are dying to get better it hurts to sit in my waiting room at my Dr and hear the others discuss ways to slip throught when n it took me months to get there because other abuse their spot when they aren't ready god bless guys and good luck

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I was also on subutex. And after I had my baby they switched me to suboxone. It Also gives me severe headache "s and swelling in my feet I am going to tell her about it more when I go see her this week I just don't know if she will give them to me ...

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K: Hopefully your doctor will give you the Subutex, but if not you may have to go to the emergency room and get documentation that you are having a "reaction" to the Naloxone. Get what I am saying?

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Yeah I'm hoping so but if not I will try that ! Because I'm really sick of having hheadache's

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Hows that because I have a pinched sciatic nerve and they want to infuse to have my disk and Suboxone Don't help but Sebutec does relieve the pain

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I'm in New Albany, Indiana. My girl is pregnant and I need to find her a doctor. Please help me. {edited for privacy}. Thank you.

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JOEY: Go on Suboxone.com, put in your city or your zip code, and a list of doctors will come up in your area. I am assuming you need to find a doctor for Opioid Replacement Therapy, in other words, Suboxone.

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thanks, James, i appreciate your saying so....i have the unfortunate perfect case-in-point this very uncomfortable sunday night of Mischief, 10/30, as i am starting to go into withdrawal from not getting my suboxone due to the ongoing bulls*** games i play with both my doctors office, as well as blue cross blue shield of de...i love my suboxone doctor, but let's be honest, a doctor is as good as his or her office staff, and this office is straight out of HELL as they are so insanely incompetent and after having 6 years of success on suboxone this past 9/30, in the last 2 months i have been forced into precipitated withdrawals 3 or 4 times now. it's been a real nightmare and just when i have battled through all of the crap and think i got all of the bases covered, they up the game. unfortunately, i have had to temporarily go on medicaid in delaware the last 9 months. when i was on suboxone the first 5 years, i had private AETNA insurance thru my employer. thank GOD i was able to have it that way for 5 years!! 5 solid years of total success, no relapsing back on full opiates and never even thought about it, totally returned to having a normal and mostly rewarding life and took sub as prescribed. i am not ashamed to say at this time, even after 6 years, if i remain on it longer and/or indefinitely, so what I don't care and people who have an issue with that haven't walked in my shoes, so if it ain't broke, don't fix it, right? Yeah well tell government paid health care that!!! they want to continually go on & on & on about the huge crisis and epidemic of opiate-related addictions and overdoses, accidental or otherwise, yet i know i am not the only good person out there who is using the necessary evil of medicaid right now, and why not? i paid into it all of my adult tax paying life, so now here it is for me when i really need it, only i am getting the feeling they WANT ME TO SCREW UP because they do NOT like having to pay for these expensive suboxone films. they are total a**holes and i took the pills for 5 years and never liked the film, and i even adjusted to the generic pill, which is cheaper of course, but NO, they don't like the tablet because they say it is easier for the F*** UPS who abuse this system, to give them to each other and sell and cash & carry them around, which is just completely INSANE to me. i mean come on, it's this very small thin foil packet barely thicker than paper, do they really think the films aren't being sold on the streets as well as the tabs? no, what it REALLY is, is that they are getting the expensive brand name film for FREE from the drug manufacturer, which is why it is the only kind we are allowed to get. I never went through withdrawal from sub during my first 5 years and i never ran out. in my 6th year of suboxone, quite honestly, i don't know how I have made it this far, other then for the fact to go in any other direction clearly is not an option for me at this stage in the game. sorry, i am venting. just very upset & frustrated and feel like doing harm to the evil entity i have to go thru to keep my sobriety.

I only had insurance pay for my prescription the 1st five years - I DID have to pay for the monthly doc visit, yes, he was a greedy guy, but i still liked him enough to pay him lots of money from 2010-2015 and it was worth it because i had a good job and thought nothing of the money after a while because it was so much better then the pathetic way I was living prior to this!
Ok so Medicaid has no idea of my 5 years before them and that i was a shining example of what a suboxone patient is supposed to be, so i get treated like a junkie 3 days out of free rehab and every appt i have to give them urin, which i will never get used to. my other doctor asked me for urin maybe 2 or 3 times in 5 years. he knew i was working a program. so i gave urin on 9/21 and health insurance decided on 10/27 that it wasn't RECENT ENOUGH URIN??? so i go in friday 10/28 and piss in the cup and now i do what? wait for the results? how long does this take? does anybody know? i have asked anybody i can ask in my line of fire, and either they are incompetent *****s working at my doctors office, which of course they really are, or they bounce me back to "THE OTHER GUY". i love my new suboxone doctor, she is a wonderful lady and i truly like her, but the reality is is that she is only as good as her staff, and her staff is HORRIBLE and they don't give a s*** that I have been forced into withdrawal 3 different times now since AUGUST due to their lazy, half assed, slow, incorrectly filled out paperwork and pre authorizations to be faxed, or sending things too late in day, or flat out forgetting and lying to me that they did, as if i cant found out. and what is even more upsetting is that i am a sissy with stuff like this, even when i know i am right and within reason to feel as i do, i will have to call doctors office tomorrow to inquire about this whole u/a process, as i have a majorly vested interest in it seeing as i am in withdrawal and feel like DEATH BREAD. the office b**** is mean to me and talks to me like garbage and resents that i am trying to make her do her freakin job. lazy lazy lazy and unbelievable unprofessional. she is missing her front teeth and wears fake hair that is beyond obvious and looks awful, and she answers the phone of a doctors office as though she has just rolled out of bed. but this is what i am stuck with because so many docs around here aren't taking new patients. what does one have to do to get one of the good doctors? or at least, good office staff? i have to be careful of what i tell my doctor, because if i complain about her awful help from circus hell, they will be even meaner to me and probably start tainting my urin samples. i just would like to know, when one has provided a sample on a friday and are told the samples get picked up every day, then what happens? is it possible that my urin will be evaluated monday and i can get my suboxone monday if its early enough? oh no, i have to wait for the pre auth to be faxed by the toothless office pig who doesnt like to be told she has to do things for patients in order for them to not keep going in withdrawal. i can't wait to find a new doctor, God willing, and look forward to the day i get to finally post a real legitimate review on their website. i am going to destroy this woman as she is now destroying me with her negligence.

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Wow!!! So sorry that you are going through such bulls***! Try and keep your head held high! Keep on keeping on...I really wish you luck in this nightmare that is our health system!

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You were on 16th a day of methadone did you have to reduce to go on subutex if so how much?

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DANI926, That's really Pathetic!!!! Why don't you grow a set of whatever and fight FOR YOUR RIGHTS, ITS YOUR LIFE. If you don't care enough about your recovery (some TOOTHLESS WIG WEARING PIG OF A STAFF MEMBER as you openly describe her SURE WILL NOT!!!!). No one on this planet is more important then YOU!!!! PLEASE HELP YOURSELF AND YOUR LOVED ONES BY FIGHTING. WE ALL DESERVE THE RIGHT TO LIVE A SOBER AND DRUG FREE LIFE. God speed.....

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Um, wooooah, hold on there....if I don't care about my recovery? I said nothing to imply any such thing. jesus, i should not have vented online while being forced into withdrawal, i left myself open to an idiotic remark, no offense. I mean, I am a 46 year old intelligent classy woman, I do not need to be told to grow some "whatever" - and i don't think you read my volume carefully - I did everything an intelligent person in recovery over 10 years could & would have done in my situation - YOU try fighting the powers that be when dealing with horrible, necessary evil medicaid. Maybe I am not taking you right, but I have been dealing with massive amounts of BS, incompetence, rude ignorant a-hole people in the health insurance & medical community, and I have hit my limit and sick of being nicer to people then they deserve when all I get in return is s*** on -- People for the most part SUCK and are stupid. I am a good, fun, loving, caring person and would be simply blown away to get even one comment or remark from a person who understands where i am coming from & feels my pain. I would actually feel hope for the first time in months, instead of this sickeningly despairing frustration i am choking on.

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DANI: I understand what you are going through. People like this BS person? (What an appropriate user name!) Just blow them off. And no, people do not "mostly suck", it just seems that way when you are going through something so frustrating. Hang in there and stay strong.

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hi kkh, thanks for your 11/21 message, a definite LOL on appropriate "bs" username remark, and finally, yes agreed on that people mostly do NOT suck, lmao...soooo not like me to spout off like that & major reinforcement on my "just read but do not post comments" policy when i am in a completely sideways state of mind and/or in suboxone withdrawal due to error & incompetency on behalf of the 'establishment'....dani

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JAC: It is best to be on 40mgs of Methadone or less before switching to Suboxone. Methadone takes for frigging EVER to get completely out of your system, and the higher the dose, the higher it takes. I have seen someone go through Precipitated Withdrawals after waiting SIX DAYS after Methadone, because they were on 75 milligrams of the Meth. Six days. Some doctors won't even ATTEMPT to switch you if you are on more than 30 or 40 milligrams of Meth.

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I read a lot of you talking about getting high I don't know yet what y'all mean.i have yet to feel any out of normal except it does take most of the pain away.But I sure know what withdrawals feel like thought I was going to get surgery and stoped boy that was a wake up call for me but I just don't understand the highs

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